|
On April 13 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 11:28 Stutters695 wrote:On April 12 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote:
nvm...caught up
meh, can see why ppl got cold feet
hope you keep feeling better oneg! <3 now...
-sits on onegu's head-
i find it hard to believe youve read my filter closely if you really think its mostly questions and metareads xP
stutters could be scum; knowing his alignment for sure would help explain the vote
or he could have just been at work? i think he said he was
anyway im here now if anyone wants to talk, but im driving back to sa tomorrow so prob wont be on for the rest of the night phase after tonight If I'm town, what do I gain from the vote like that? If I'm scum what do I gain? Assume I'm town for a second(you'll see why d2). Prpl tries to switch the wagon onto me. From a scum perspective: He mislynches me (I get harder to mislynch as the game goes on generally) and leaves him with 1/2 (depending on Dwarf's alignment) easy-ish mislynches at the cost of looking slightly worse for my mislynch. Do you think that would be a risk he'd take as scum from playing scum with him? I am really interested what stutters means by the bolded..
On April 13 2015 14:25 Breshke wrote:
Also i kind of want to vote stutters until he explains why we would all understand he was town on D2 because there's no point pretending he didn't say that.
Shining - is this what you mean by the breadcrumbing post? I went over Breshke's filter with a fine tooth comb.
Most of his discussion on Stutters was him focusing on the EoD switch to Stutters.
|
|
|
##vote prplhz
For the record, I re-read Titanic, I re-read the filter in his game, I even read Down Under 2. I still can't shake off the reads.
|
On April 15 2015 05:41 Breshke wrote:
I would also lynch stutters for not taking a stance on me when he is trying to push his lynch since as town you shouldnt let arguments like this fester without trying to help out. Im also done with my reason for giving him the pass.
Stutters has been pushing prplhz all of D2????? How is that not town behaviour pushing a lynch you believe in? All cycle long?
|
On April 15 2015 05:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Are you thinking that what if all 3 mafia are active? Inactive lynches are bad in this case. But I was going to do same, I was going to vote The Shining or Stutters.
##Vote The Shining
|
On April 15 2015 05:50 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 05:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Are you thinking that what if all 3 mafia are active? Inactive lynches are bad in this case. But I was going to do same, I was going to vote The Shining or Stutters.
##Vote The Shining
EBWOP from previous post - you're saying inactive lynches are bad but you're voting a relative inactive?
|
Shining was a bit inactive as town in Newbie LX, and he had excuses for that too. What were his reads like in that game...
|
|
|
|
|
GGs Dwarf, hope to see you in a future student game. I realise you're new but it might take a few games to settle in.
|
On April 15 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
tch -_-
if i had a bullet ><
though lol why does breshke try to hammer scummate prp stutters that i don't follow
I'd have to agree here, I don't think those two are the same alignment given that.
|
On April 15 2015 06:07 The Shining wrote:FFS. Welp when you have town like that, you pretty much make life easy for scum. Fuck man. Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Shining was a bit inactive as town in Newbie LX, and he had excuses for that too. What were his reads like in that game... was that when you were godfather? I was bassically useless until D3 when I was almost mislynched. I came back and pinged two of the 3 scum but sheeped my townread instead of voting one and we lost in mylo.
Yeh I was GF that game.
|
On April 15 2015 06:06 Bourneq wrote:Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that.
He was defending Dwarf and willing to lynch you though, that was one of the things I had trouble with.
|
On April 15 2015 06:20 Trfel wrote:
Anyway, I need to step back and take another look at this game. Re-filter everyone, check prplhz's meta, etc. But certainly not right now.
When you do, read Roulette (Stutters linked it), Titanic 7, and Down Under 2 at the very least - he was MLed D1 and I realise the last one was a low-postcount game but you can see the difference. The irony is that I think his read formation, etc in this game is actually worse than it was in Titanic 7. Roulette though, read pages 4 and onwards, massive difference in the way he reasons.
|
I'm back. I needed to clear my mind, do a few things and then return.
I'm around for another 30-45 before I sleep.
|
I'm honestly fairly convinced prp is scum. In addition to the games Stutters provided, I skimmed filters from:
Default Suspicions
WH Champ 2
Carnival Cruise
The first two games further supported the points brought up previously for him as a townie. But most notably, in the third game, Carnival Cruise, where he was mafia, he voted 2-3 players for being mafia on doing nothing or adding nothing of value to the game, which is what he's doing here to some extent. Kushm4sta was one of them, can't remember the other two offhand.
Which gives even more credence to the theory has trouble coming up with scumreads as mafia.
|
On April 15 2015 06:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Yeah, they are like 99% not the same alignment. I still think prpl is scum but I don't like that Breshke went from not wanting to lynch me but suspecting me to wanting to lynch me to sheeping my case.
I don't have time for full on analysis, but his d2 seems worse the more I think about it.
His D2 play was closer to his scum meta. I want to say the vote on him came approx 6-7h prior to EoD, but I'd have to double check since he was going to bed where he lives.
Mafia agenda in his voting processes (from switching from Shining when he was scumreading Stutters, and unwilling to lynch Dwarf, switching to Shining and then possibly hammering prp) could be wanting to look good.
He sheeped Trfel.
On April 15 2015 05:48 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 05:46 Half the Sky wrote:On April 15 2015 05:41 Breshke wrote:
I would also lynch stutters for not taking a stance on me when he is trying to push his lynch since as town you shouldnt let arguments like this fester without trying to help out. Im also done with my reason for giving him the pass.
Stutters has been pushing prplhz all of D2????? How is that not town behaviour pushing a lynch you believe in? All cycle long? This is true and a really good point. its the morning and im grumpy with people. I havn't looked at prp enough to vote him. So i really can't see myself doing. I think shsining is the way to go. Add trefel to my townlist
Key is the bolded.
|
Shining, looking at the voting order, Trfel was townreading prplhz and his choices were hammering a townread in prplhz (vote would have been 4-5 with prp being lynched), hammering a nullread in Dwarf, or keeping his vote where it was.
By hammering a nullread, he effectively saved someone he was townreading, prplhz. The vote was tied at 4-4, though Dwarf was first to 4 votes per the counter, anyone could have hammered prplhz.
|
On April 15 2015 09:28 jarjarbinks wrote:
HTS do you think breshke and prp could be on the same team?
Stutters (whom I'm townreading) provided the following explanation.
On April 15 2015 06:33 Stutters695 wrote:
Also, scum motivations for Breshke attempting to hammer:
If prpl is town, he gets lynched and everything I've done all game is for naught making me a relatively easy mislynch with how divided we are.
If prpl is scum, he gets lynched and gets massive town cred for hammering him. If this is the case that would mean that the third member thinks prpl is doomed anyway which has it's own implications.
Or they're both town and we're royally fucked, but I doubt any of these are happening.
We need to ask a few questions here:
1 Is Breshke a high-risk high-reward player? Like Toadesstern? Like sicklucker?
2 How likely is it that any player on D2 would hammer like this in a newbie game especially?
|
On April 15 2015 09:30 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 09:17 prplhz wrote:
no wait, i don't actually give a shit. i'm so pissed at this open setup can't even fake claim cop tomorrow. Wat
Scum claim time? 
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
