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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2015 17:55 GMT
#161
On March 19 2015 01:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 01:33 yamato77 wrote:
just do what I do in big games and only read the last page every time you come back to the computer

filters are for when someone posts something so unbelievably awful they can't be town

This sounds like a great idea, I might try that.

that's essentially what I do.
Computer says mafia
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 18 2015 18:01 GMT
#162
I'm excited to get 10+ pages behind and also stop reading. This is going to be a fun game...
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2015 18:03 GMT
#163
I was told to do this

/in

I will be afk for large amounts of time though so be warned of that
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:07 GMT
#164
lol xP

I feel the most sympathetic toward the scum team...especially if any of the players play scum like I do and actually read the game xP mrrrrrt Horn was a bitch and I was super busy that week...and lol that was a mini

geript thinks he plays better when he doesn't post as much and just analyzes xP he's probably right

there's this rule...in science...damn I need to google the word isn't coming...not the Hawthorne Effect but kinda the same principle...by the very act of interacting with others you change their behavior?

in my case i'm too blunt/direct often which is something i'm trying to change...not be quite so obvious where my head's at if it causes players to play differently than they would otherwise
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#165
Are you referring to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:16 GMT
#166
ummmm doubtful? my scientific background doesn't extend to quantum mechanics mr. engineer lol

it does look like a similar concept, though

nah, it's specifically related to scientists observing people or animal behavior, and that behavior changing because of the knowledge that the scientists are there...:/ I just can't remember the name of it

I think it was in reference to gorillas originally?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 18 2015 18:17 GMT
#167
Heisenberg....isn't that when you don't know where the molecules are at a given exact point of time and space or something like that? Don't think it has anything to do with human behaviour.

Rasputin, are you talking about classical conditioning or the Pavlov experiment? Or am I mixing that up with something else?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:19 GMT
#168
no lol I'm familiar enough with the Pavlov experiment and as I understand it that was intentional xP

this is an unintentional by-product of the fact that you're studying something and they're aware of your presence...implies a subject of more intelligence than molecules

truffle is talking about how you can't be perfectly precise (the better your measurement in one dimension, the less accurate in another, essentially)

>< I've completely derailed this thread now lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 18 2015 18:23 GMT
#169
I just looked it up - it is the Hawthorne effect

The Hawthorne effect (also referred to as the observer effect) is a type of reactivity in which individuals improve an aspect of their behavior in response to their awareness of being observed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:25 GMT
#170
nah ^^; I promise it's not

like that assumes people act better which wasn't really what I was after lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 18 2015 18:25 GMT
#171
I know that the uncertainty principle has nothing to do with human behavior, but it's the same idea that interacting with something changes its properties.

And they teach the uncertainty principle in basic physics classes.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22310 Posts
March 18 2015 18:26 GMT
#172
And when they estimate themselves as being good at a task they perform relatively better, while with a bad estimation they perform worse. I know it under another name,rosenthal-effect.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:27 GMT
#173
like I want to see the Hawthorne effect is actually related to social sciences/management sciences

and the one i'm talking about was not necessarily human specific, but damn if I can actually find the reference ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:30 GMT
#174
lol I like that one too, vivax!

that's closer than hawthorne but still not it :/

lol well >> I haven't taken physics since...um...good lord...I want to say 2001-2002? and I don't remember that principle in there but that's not saying much 13-14 years later lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 18:32:44
March 18 2015 18:32 GMT
#175
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_effect

The Pygmalion effect, or Rosenthal effect, is the phenomenon whereby the greater the expectation placed upon people, the better they perform.[1] The effect is named after the Greek myth of Pygmalion, a sculptor who fell in love with a statue he had carved.

A corollary of the Pygmalion effect is the golem effect, in which low expectations lead to a decrease in performance; both effects are forms of self-fulfilling prophecy. By the Pygmalion effect, people internalize their positive labels, and those with positive labels succeed accordingly. The idea behind the Pygmalion effect is that increasing the leader's expectation of the follower's performance will result in better follower performance. Within sociology, the effect is often cited with regard to education and social class.

Studies of the Pygmalion effect have been difficult to conduct. Results show a positive correlation between leader expectation and follower performance, but it is argued that the studies are done in an unnatural, manipulated setting. Scientists argue that the perceptions a leader has of a follower cause the Pygmalion effect. The leader's expectations are influenced by their perception of the situation or the followers themselves. Perception and expectation may possibly be found in a similar part in the brain.


*throws up her hands*

Sorry Rasputin, I know jack all about psychology except the basics (studied biochemistry at uni because I was a glutton for punishment).
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 18 2015 18:33 GMT
#176
On March 19 2015 03:25 Trfel wrote:
I know that the uncertainty principle has nothing to do with human behavior, but it's the same idea that interacting with something changes its properties.

And they teach the uncertainty principle in basic physics classes.

http://i.imgur.com/z1DWvNj.jpg
The image is huge but is this the futurama version of what you're talking about?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:34 GMT
#177
that's Rosenthal lol the same thing vivax just commented on

like I swear hawthorne and Rosenthal/pygmalion were part of my management course in behavioral science...though I guess this is behavioral science...

it's just not the right one lolol

i'll go with truffle's observer effect - related to the uncertainty principle for now -flops on truffle-'

and here's hoping i'm not making some random principle/law up and haven't just sent everyone on a wild goose chase for something that doesn't exist xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2015 18:35 GMT
#178
this thread I tell you this thread
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 18 2015 18:36 GMT
#179
<3s ff ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 18 2015 18:36 GMT
#180
Trfel, you are studying physics or mechanical engineering? I can't remember...I know JAT is studying chemistry but I could have sworn there was a physics student in this bunch.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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