Look, we are absolutely not lynching Toadesstern today. You don't need to read the thread to see this.

I need to leave basically right now, I hope I'll get back for EOD.

I'm looking at Vivax and raynpelikoneet for the lynch. For now, I think Vivax.

Reason being how stubbornly he's attacking Toadesstern instead of taking a step back and realizing that his counterclaim means he is probably town. Though I could see a desperate, tunneling town doing this as well.

##vote Vivax

Trfel

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March 20 2015 20:32 GMT

#2704

On March 21 2015 05:30 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Yeah this is really weird. Like - he should have no reason to throw rayn in there because no counterclaim to tracker....why would he lump rayn in there with the ones that there LIKELY IS a liar between, Vivax/Toad?

ExO_ already discussed this. I answer because I feel the same way about raynpelikoneet's claim.

Tracker is a niche role, and there is a very good chance that a tracker is not in this game.

If anyone has other reasons for why raynpelikoneet's claim is more believable, I'm listening.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 20:35 GMT

#2713

Vivax's progression

Claims vigilante
Pushes the counterclaim (Toadesstern) with no restraint
Suddenly acknowledges that there could be two vigilantes
Continues pushing Toadesstern with complete confidence
Leaves in frustration

Hm.

Trfel

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March 20 2015 20:36 GMT

#2717

On March 21 2015 05:28 Vivax wrote:
A lot of people are pushing the idea of two vigis in the game.

Not lies?

Trfel

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March 20 2015 20:38 GMT

#2722

On March 21 2015 05:36 Palmar wrote:
why did Toad even counterclaim, couldn't he just find an alternative lynch and shoot vivax in the night?

Grr, that's a good point, isn't it.

I need to leave ASAP, already late. To elaborate on the Vivax quote I just posted, while it's possible that I am misinterpreting it, it seems that Vivax is endorsing the suggestion that there are multiple vigilantes. Otherwise, he would say something else other than "a lot of people like this idea".

Trfel

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March 20 2015 20:53 GMT

#2769

I thought about it, and in the end I don't feel that it is significant that Toadesstern claimed instead of simply night-killing Vivax.

I know I'm going to get a ton of flak for this, but....

ExO_, are you soft-claiming blue?

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 21:04 GMT

#2786

Artanis[Xp], what do you think about raynpelikoneet's claim?

Trfel

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March 20 2015 21:05 GMT

#2789

On March 21 2015 06:04 Vivax wrote:

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There is no mafiavig

...

Mafia vigilante is in fact a possibility.

As is alignment cop.

Both Vivax and Toadesstern have made an error with regards to possible roles in the game.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 21:08 GMT

#2800

Vivax. Korath the Pursuer

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 21:15 GMT

#2829

On March 21 2015 06:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Come on guys someone help a brother out here. I don't wanna have to read 50 pgs real fast like

Vivax claimed vigilante.
raynpelikoneet claimed tracker.
Toadesstern counterclaimed vigilante.

Now the question is, who do we lynch?

I think Vivax is a good lynch. Raynpelikoneet isn't a bad lynch IMO, but most people seem willing to leave that for another day, so I guess I'll accept that.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 21:18 GMT

#2844

What about potentially a sicklucker or LightningStrike lynch?

Palmar, why did you switch to Vivax from Toadesstern?

Trfel

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March 20 2015 21:23 GMT

#2867

On March 21 2015 06:22 Holyflare wrote:
So what's happening

Holyflare to save the day!

Vivax claimed vigilante, then raynpelikoneet claimed tracker, then Toadesstern counterclaimed vigilante.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 21:29 GMT

#2903

On March 21 2015 06:28 Breshke wrote:

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So both of you can't be roleblocked by mafia. If one of you doesn't shoot the other one then they die in the night.. If one of you shoots the other and they flip town big then they die. I think it is very unlikely we have two town vigi's.

With my plan the town vig gets a chance to shoot still. What will probs happen is that the town vig will get RB (they might not even have one) and the mafia vig wont shoot so that could be even better since the town vig willl still be alive and soak up a RB

But then we still don't know which vigilante is town and which one is mafia?

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 20 2015 21:31 GMT

#2913

Toadesstern, there is the possibility of an alignment cop. It's the very first role listed.

Does this change your view at all?

Trfel

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March 20 2015 21:42 GMT

#2956

Vivax. Toadesstern probably isn't getting lynched today.

Who is your primary lynch target, other than Toadesstern?

Trfel