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On April 06 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
it's a team game, it's not unwinnable for the team; you just gotta play your role to help the team. mine was to stall for as long as possible, cause confusion, and then get bussed when appropriate. i was very open about that being the plan from the moment i opened the scum qt.
yeah exactly. That's why I got so angry at some of the plays people did just "for the lulz" if they wen against the plan we had to win this
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On April 06 2015 08:13 Damdred wrote:
The blue claims kinda made me angry. Honestly I think town was really under powered with all the nerfd roles
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On April 06 2015 08:13 Damdred wrote:
The blue claims kinda made me angry. Honestly I think town was really under powered with all the nerfd roles
BH and I spent hours discussing balance. The idea was 3-4 blues plus the orb (statistical a town item given RNG) against 2-3 red PRs based on numbers. We then took a five man scum team, counted MLs backwards and equalised by adjusting kp.
Why do you think town was underpowered? Both sides had passives unless you had an issue with the JK.
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On April 06 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2015 08:13 Damdred wrote:
The blue claims kinda made me angry. Honestly I think town was really under powered with all the nerfd roles No
Yes, 5 Scum vs like 4 blues, basically 3 shrug
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On April 06 2015 08:14 Toadesstern wrote:well the thing about SL is that he kept bussing all game long no matter what... I could have looked better the last 2 cycles as well but worked towards getting our win and making sure that happens so yeah, obviously you figure me out if I push you Onegu  I mean I got REALLY mad at sicklucker for bussing me frickin' 4 hours ago or what was it with this post: Show nested quote +On April 06 2015 01:35 sicklucker wrote:
I still think toad could be the mathematical play here. I dont care how towny hes been the chances of two vets is still fairly low. Im open to lynching him ,ff and onegu today
Trololo
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I'm surprised I haven't been bitched at about fake claims yet....
@FF I am a man of my word, 1 month seems fair since I was town also
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It wasint at you tho. I just wanted to screw with the observers. The game was over there not lynching you. and if they do they aint lynchin me.
When I play mafia I try to do what I I would do as town. And I dont think I would ever give a second veg like 5 days of life when the setup seems town favored.
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On April 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On April 06 2015 08:13 Damdred wrote:
The blue claims kinda made me angry. Honestly I think town was really under powered with all the nerfd roles No Yes, 5 Scum vs like 4 blues, basically 3 shrug
Your point being?
Town doesn't need more blues than there is scum. What logic is that?
You got to look at
(1) amount of misslynches
(2) amount of information due to blues.
the end.
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On April 06 2015 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
It wasint at you tho. I just wanted to screw with the observers. The game was over there not lynching you. and if they do they aint lynchin me.
When I play mafia I try to do what I I would do as town. And I dont think I would ever give a second veg like 5 days of life when the setup seems town favored.
like half of your filter is "Toad looks weird... I don't believe we have 2 vigs" and I constantly had to tell you to stop bringing that up because noone else had problems with it lol
I know the post I quoted wasn't even meant the way I read it but it could have been dangerous. I still think that had I been lynched, flipped red and suddenly Damdred gets shot over you, you might get lynched because mafia ignored the 100% confirmed townie and shot damdred, a guy that was mafiared by at least trfel.
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I also got to agree with Koshi, I thought it was slightly town favored at first and looking back at it it was actually super balanced.
The only thing that I'd change is make sure you CAN actually fakeclaim as mafia. It worked out this game somehow but if you have named roles that supposedly exist only once... it's hard to do something against claims as mafia. But that's an issue with claims being too strong and not an issue with PR's being too strong.
I mean let's be honest... was there really a chance for town to roll doublevig and they're both called Drax?
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No really. Perfectly balanced. I am surprised. wp. gj.
Koshi out.
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GG everyone.
At least now i will feel even more justified in always wanting to lynch SL
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Yes actually in titanic cunning plan and in fanfic they were named exactly the same.
I'm not going to turn this into an argument about the balance as I don't think the number of blues was the issue honestly nor is it the reason we lost.
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On April 06 2015 08:22 Onegu wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't been bitched at about fake claims yet....
@FF I am a man of my word, 1 month seems fair since I was town also
lol it was against the rules don't worry
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Very well played everyone on my team. Toad and SL brought it home nicely and ritoky really did his part. LS just got unlucky with the cop check on him early on.
I think this game was fairly balanced. The KP formula worked out nicely. Town had to mislynch 5 times to lose which doesn't seem unfair at all. Even if mafia hadn't lost a KP into the vet that would still have been the case. In fact if it wasn't for HTS' KP formula most mafia teams would've kept 2kp for way too long this game due to how long we had 3 scum living.
We actually ended up in a 10v3 state (normal mini) after night 2. The problem for town obviously was that 2/3 of their blues were dead for two mafia goons (gf/rb/rolecop all alive).
Then again, I tend to always favor scum a bit (at least compared to marv) when I design setups, so me saying it's balanced may mean that to some people it may be slightly mafia favored.
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nah man the game wasn't imbalanced
i was an idiot, and started a chain reaction that had exo outing himself too
if we'd played our roles properly there would have been a much better chance of winning this game
this is mostly directed at damdred
sorry town! ^^;
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Like a single lurking cop claiming on day 4 would've thown such a wrench in all our plans.
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I say this koshi will quote this with calling me an idiot of sorts then I'll get mad and leave the thread probably.
I just think that town had nerfd roles to make up for an item that town was more probable to get.
Shrug
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GG sorry I was bad at playing scum team  Any tips on playing scum?
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