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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 03 2015 00:03 GMT
#8681
You mentioned I could be scum last night before I went to bed and I did post some
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 03 2015 00:05 GMT
#8682
On April 03 2015 09:03 sicklucker wrote:
You mentioned I could be scum last night before I went to bed and I did post some

Yeah you posted some before but didn't really defend yourself.
Anyway I'm happy to resign to losing the game if you're scum at this point I guess.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 00:06 GMT
#8683
On April 03 2015 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So Fecal who outside of PoE is scum? Is it Damdred?

Are you sure you're licenced to hold a question that loaded?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 00:07 GMT
#8684
oh god why am I allowed to spell it both ways, spellcheck? license licence wtf
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#8685
On April 03 2015 09:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So Fecal who outside of PoE is scum? Is it Damdred?

Are you sure you're licenced to hold a question that loaded?

How is it loaded? I'm presuming you don't believe you're scum, so to you someone outside of PoE has to be scum. Who do you think it is?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 00:12 GMT
#8686
See without the damdred question on the end it makes me feel much nicer.


Yeah probably damdred
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 03 2015 00:16 GMT
#8687
Wait, do people actually think that I am mafia because I'm the veteran and I got shot?

That's really stupid.

Anyway, I'll take another look at this game and hopefully find the scum.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 03 2015 00:21 GMT
#8688
You git shot and Scum didn't take out confirmed town either way.

This means ritoky is the rb and vivax would of been super confirmed
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 03 2015 00:26 GMT
#8689
On April 03 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Wait, do people actually think that I am mafia because I'm the veteran and I got shot?

That's really stupid.

Anyway, I'll take another look at this game and hopefully find the scum.

It has more to do with the fact that we appear to have 2 vigis, a jk, an alignment cop and a veteran which seems like a bit overkill. I can't imagine any of the claims besides yours being fake though. If Toad is somehow mafia I am nominating him for mafia player of the decade.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 00:35 GMT
#8690
Yeah I could see toad being the mafia vig and pro as fuck at hiding his alignment. I can't see it enough to vote him but it's an intriguing thought.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 03 2015 00:47 GMT
#8691
Day 6: Current Vote Count

ritoky (4): Artanis[Xp], sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Toadesstern

Not Voting (4): Onegu, ritoky, Damdred, Trfel

Currently, ritoky is set to be executed. Day 6 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain.

Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 03 2015 01:11 GMT
#8692
On April 03 2015 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Wait, do people actually think that I am mafia because I'm the veteran and I got shot?

That's really stupid.

Anyway, I'll take another look at this game and hopefully find the scum.

It has more to do with the fact that we appear to have 2 vigis, a jk, an alignment cop and a veteran which seems like a bit overkill. I can't imagine any of the claims besides yours being fake though. If Toad is somehow mafia I am nominating him for mafia player of the decade.
It's extremely obvious that I'm the veteran, it's been that way for quite some time. Here's why. Hopefully we don't have to go into this again.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2015 10:24 Trfel wrote:
Look, I seem to be commonly scumread. And fine, it's warranted.

Give me a chance to read the thread in detail, and actually provide thoughts. As in, I'll actually play the game correctly this time. Don't scumread me until I finish and share serious thoughts, okay?

If you want a meta reason not to scumread me, last game, Mini Mafia Down Under 2, I trolled for nearly the entire game.
Approximately 4 or 5 hours into the game. Do you really think that I am that afraid of being lynched? Votes normally move a ton in the hours before the deadline, so there is absolutely no reason for a post this defensive only a few hours into the game. Also, I have ended up with town power roles on a regular basis, so I am more used to being a power role than being a vanilla townie (hosts, please fix this...). This post was intentional, in hopes that a mafia team would see it and shoot me. I'm pretty sure there are a few other unwarranted defensive posts.

I've also spent a ton of time talking about blue roles this game. That's a pretty obvious giveaway as well.
On March 21 2015 05:19 Trfel wrote:
And there lies the problem.... I'm not sure if there are two vigilantes in this game or not.

How many blue roles would we be expected to have in this game? Any clue? The orb sort of counts as a blue role, too...
I kept asking about blue claims, I won't bother quoting them. But there is one point of additional importance. When the claims on Day 1 occurred, I noticed one other player giving them a lot of attention and being skeptical about the number of power roles in the game. This was ExO_. And I'm the worst blue hunter ever. The reason that I identified that he was a power role was that he was thinking exactly the same things I was, and had exactly the same suspicions I was. I asked him twice if he wanted to soft-claim blue. If he did, I would have done so as well, leaving us with five power roles (making lynching into them a reasonably good idea). If ExO_ softclaimed blue in this way, since I would as well, it would help provide some cover for him, so I wasn't as concerned about this because I am the veteran.
On March 21 2015 05:53 Trfel wrote:
I thought about it, and in the end I don't feel that it is significant that Toadesstern claimed instead of simply night-killing Vivax.

I know I'm going to get a ton of flak for this, but....

ExO_, are you soft-claiming blue?
On March 21 2015 06:58 Trfel wrote:
Oh, Holyflare claimed too?

Hrmph. Almost certainly we have too many claimed power roles then, especially if ExO_ did actually softclaim blue.
I've also been constantly asking about the power role balance in the game. Why would I be so worried about that, since I generally dislike setup speculation and don't really care about power roles? I'm not going to provide quotes, but basically every time someone claimed blue or rescinded their blue claim, I asked about the power role balance. And when I could, I tried to find out of having an extra power role would make it too strong.
On March 25 2015 06:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:59 Trfel wrote:
On March 25 2015 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also since everyone's claiming I'm fakeclaiming vet.
Then I'm counterclaiming fake vet. Would you care to fake rescind?

Fuck, I rescind my fakeclaim. I'm actually a vet.
Why did I not respond to this? I couldn't think of a response that was natural enough. Were I not the veteran, I almost certainly would have responded here.

Finally, there was a time in the game where I asked Eden to try and read my mind. Look at my side of that conversation.
On March 25 2015 12:20 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Eden] +
Eden, I have a challenge for you. You need to read my mind.

Reread my filter a little more carefully (particularly the parts in Day 1). Then share your thoughts.

If you don't want to, I understand, but it would be great if you could.
On March 25 2015 12:45 Trfel wrote:
Ok Eden. I'll try one more time.

Read it again and imagine you're mafia.
On March 25 2015 13:32 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 13:29 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm not sure yet that he's a better lynch than other people in my pile.

Although Superbia is doing a good job of getting himself off the list...
Eden, now that ritoky and Onegu have claimed VT...

What do you think about the game's power role balance?

2 vigilantes
1 jailkeeper
1 cop

Is that fair for a 15 town vs 5 scum game?

Thanks!
So, I'm asking someone to reread my filter carefully, from a mafia perspective, and asking about the power role balance in the game. What do you think I'm suggesting? I think it's fairly obvious.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 03 2015 01:19 GMT
#8693
Just an advance warning, I probably won't be able to make it for the deadline.

Vote is on ritoky for now.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 01:25 GMT
#8694
so are we in like quadruple mylo or something? I don't want to math
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 03 2015 01:28 GMT
#8695
On April 03 2015 10:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
so are we in like quadruple mylo or something? I don't want to math
Triple. Only three scum remaining.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 03 2015 01:28 GMT
#8696
well, this sucks. sorry town, I couldn't compensate for rayn's bad play.

smart job by mafia delaying my ML until the last one to secure the game, that's some shit I would do. I been relentlessly town and trying to dig town's head out of its ass since I entered the game (save last phase cuz of irl stuff). if you guys can't see that shit it is completely on you. just like in XXX, people just can't seem to read my town play anymore cuz I have rolled mafia like 6-7x in a row prior.

anyways sorry for letting you down team, pretty sure the mafia is onegu/damdred/ff. could be wrong on that since I am surprised artanis has lived so long.

I will be around if anyone actually wants to discuss winning the game, but most people just seem content losing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 01:35 GMT
#8697
Take me out of your mafia list and I'll talk to you, ritoky. This really feels like mafia is just waiting for the win and makes me feel a little worse for voting for 24h days.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 03 2015 02:44 GMT
#8698
On April 03 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Take me out of your mafia list and I'll talk to you, ritoky. This really feels like mafia is just waiting for the win and makes me feel a little worse for voting for 24h days.


okay and put whom in?

like trfel maybe because technically you can no shoot there, not lose a lynch, and claim vet for swag....but he didn't really need to, so dunno about that shit.

maybe artanis cuz he hasn't died in forever after dominating the thread direction for days.

sicklucker? sicklucker shot mafia.....maybe I can tinfoil and start to consider that, but shooting mafia is more than either claimed vigi did right?

i guess the world where i start considering toad is cuz there seems like too many PRs, so maybe there's one between toad and trfel? but even then he is a claimed vigi with a claim that made more sense than our flipped vigi's claim. regardless that's something to consider after lynching the two auto-mafia.

i am willing to consider worlds, but no world i consider is going to not have damdred and onegu in it as confirmed mafia at this point.

the simple fact is this: I was an easy ML from the moment I entered the game because of rayn's play, I was kept in the game because I could easily be ML'd at any time regardless of what I did. I did some super town shit, and some bad play; there was no legitimate reason that I was not lynched yesterday other than mafia manipulating the lynch. it is a win-win for mafia. if i come back and vote late, they have a perfect ML to finish the game. if i don't vote, a townie gets modkilled.

like i said, the mafia this game are playing well, whoever is town has the wool so far over their eyes that it is sad to me. i just feel kinda bad and frustrated that rayn put me in such a shit spot i couldn't carry for town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 02:55 GMT
#8699
I can see toad, since a mafia vig is very possible and I also agree that the fact that artanis is alive is concerning to say the least.

if i come back and vote late, they have a perfect ML to finish the game. if i don't vote, a townie gets modkilled.


This is what's really irking me right now. The two wagons yesterday were town but instead of seeing who is pushing these town lynches, people start following the pre-flip idea of: 'if ritoky votes last second he is scum' when, at least in my world, there HAS to be scum in the towny-town list that needs to be found...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 03 2015 03:01 GMT
#8700
Like why isn't anyone pushing me except people in the POE list? Artanis is at least talking to me like a human, vivax came around to the idea of me being town but onegu and ritoky have had me in the scum pile for ages. I said I didn't want to vote breshke but tried to vote him last second to save myself? Nobody even bothered to question that decision.

Basically right now half of me feels like I'm the only green in the poe list and I'm the only chance for scum while the other half of me is convinced that there's two scum in a VERY comfortable spot just waiting for the inevitable lynching of ritoky/onegu/ff/damdred, regardless of any team mates in the pile....

Game is hard
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