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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 31 2015 00:09 GMT
#8241
if me, it is anti-town play. does it individually make him mafia? not entirely, it could just be bad play. when you lump it together with all of the other crap he has done, plus his link to damdred. yes it makes him almost certainly mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 31 2015 00:10 GMT
#8242
I mean mr trfel
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 31 2015 00:14 GMT
#8243
##Vote:Brshke
Try TL Mafia!!!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 31 2015 00:18 GMT
#8244
I do like the idea of calling breshke brshk because it's fun to say
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 31 2015 00:22 GMT
#8245
On March 31 2015 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Onegu's decision to keep quiet about the orb says nothing about his alignment. As does his statement that he used the orb.

Carry on.

Show nested quote +
you sit around waiting to cc something after every single person in the thread has confirmed not having it for over 20 hours
you then come clean after a claimed vet stops kp

Can you comment on this part? Specifically about whether it is alignment indicative or not.
It seems that Onegu was hoping to catch the mafia for claiming a roleblock on the Night 4 orb usage. When he realized that there was no orb for Night 4, he claimed.

There was no real reason to be quiet about it. Scum would never fake the orb. Furthermore, scum wouldn't fake the orb with the wrong ability, they would use the orb and then say which ability they got (maybe fake the target and/or the result).

Therefore, there is no real benefit for mafia!Onegu to claim orb in this situation. It's not alignment indicative.

It also doesn't say much about ritoky. At the time, I believe ritoky was a widely accepted orb target. With only one mafia KP, and three mafia members, it's likely that if ritoky is scum, he wouldn't be the one carrying the KP.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
March 31 2015 00:24 GMT
#8246
The reason we might lose this game is cause 50 % of the talk is about all this role related mechanic stuff instead of the oldschool simple reasons for why bresh is mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 31 2015 00:25 GMT
#8247
On March 31 2015 09:24 Vivax wrote:
The reason we might lose this game is cause 50 % of the talk is about all this role related mechanic stuff instead of the oldschool simple reasons for why bresh is mafia.
Says the person who already blamed our power roles for the loss.

Sorry, I couldn't help it
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
March 31 2015 00:26 GMT
#8248
On March 31 2015 09:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 09:24 Vivax wrote:
The reason we might lose this game is cause 50 % of the talk is about all this role related mechanic stuff instead of the oldschool simple reasons for why bresh is mafia.
Says the person who already blamed our power roles for the loss.

Sorry, I couldn't help it


Rso and ExO weren't about to get lynched, so the claims were freekills for scum. I'm not even being mean I'm being realistic.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
March 31 2015 00:27 GMT
#8249
But anyway that's offtopic for now. Another guy dodges Breshke, this is getting annoying.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 31 2015 00:29 GMT
#8250
I dont see in anyway how onegu played that was antitown especially if he didnt realise the orb would dissapear.

If anything he made the only play that made sense last phase if he did indeed get the RB ability because outing with it would not have helped town at all.

Note that if onegu was scum he could have infact got the allighnment check ability but this is not something ritoky even considers he just accepts it as fact that onegu is telling the truth and did RB him. If ritoky was town i believe he would be more skeptical of his scumspect.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 31 2015 00:35 GMT
#8251
Also damdred why do you want to now lynch ritoky wheb all yesterday you were gunning for me now vivax wants to lynch me and you dont even interact with him about it. Whats changed?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 31 2015 00:50 GMT
#8252
On March 31 2015 09:29 Breshke wrote:
I dont see in anyway how onegu played that was antitown especially if he didnt realise the orb would dissapear.


denial of information to town. withholding that information even after all players have confirmed not having it. this is completely anti-town, if you cannot see it I don't even know what to say to you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 31 2015 01:03 GMT
#8253
If he had claimed it yesterday what woyld have town done.with that imformation.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 31 2015 01:07 GMT
#8254
I just realized. Onegu's not saying anything about the orb is actually slightly towny.

If scum gets the orb, they have two possibilities.
  1. Say nothing
  2. Target a teammate (one who isn't carrying KP) and claim roleblock or rolecheck (obviously, claim a vanilla role check)

So, Onegu's play doesn't fit with either of those possibilities. Therefore, I conclude that it is a slightly towny thing to do.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 31 2015 01:30 GMT
#8255
On March 31 2015 10:07 Trfel wrote:
I just realized. Onegu's not saying anything about the orb is actually slightly towny.

If scum gets the orb, they have two possibilities.
  1. Say nothing
  2. Target a teammate (one who isn't carrying KP) and claim roleblock or rolecheck (obviously, claim a vanilla role check)

So, Onegu's play doesn't fit with either of those possibilities. Therefore, I conclude that it is a slightly towny thing to do.


Exactly and mafia still need two misslynches to win so ritoky is trying to throw shit on onegu to secure him as the second misslynch after me.

Instead of lynching me today i think we should do this.

We lynch FECALFEAST. . When he flips scum we then lynch RITOKY. If he flips When he flips scum we then probably lynch DAMDRED.

If ANY of these people flip town town may instantly lynch me and we will just lose the game.

This is where i am at now and i do not see this changing much. I am not as sure on damdred but i do not have room to second guess myself anymore because both vigis have backed up their claims with good town play. Trefel is lock clear, SL deserves the win if he risked shooting a partner, art has put far too much effort into keeping the thread alive and moving forward to be scum and onegu's play while different has seemed to only have town motivation behind it.

The only way thisplan is bad is if you think I am scum and FF is not scum with me as it would result in a 1 for 1 trade which would put us in mylo which is probably worth it for scum.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 31 2015 02:35 GMT
#8256
On March 31 2015 10:30 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 10:07 Trfel wrote:
I just realized. Onegu's not saying anything about the orb is actually slightly towny.

If scum gets the orb, they have two possibilities.
  1. Say nothing
  2. Target a teammate (one who isn't carrying KP) and claim roleblock or rolecheck (obviously, claim a vanilla role check)

So, Onegu's play doesn't fit with either of those possibilities. Therefore, I conclude that it is a slightly towny thing to do.


Exactly and mafia still need two misslynches to win so ritoky is trying to throw shit on onegu to secure him as the second misslynch after me.

Instead of lynching me today i think we should do this.

We lynch FECALFEAST. . When he flips scum we then lynch RITOKY. If he flips When he flips scum we then probably lynch DAMDRED.

If ANY of these people flip town town may instantly lynch me and we will just lose the game.

This is where i am at now and i do not see this changing much. I am not as sure on damdred but i do not have room to second guess myself anymore because both vigis have backed up their claims with good town play. Trefel is lock clear, SL deserves the win if he risked shooting a partner, art has put far too much effort into keeping the thread alive and moving forward to be scum and onegu's play while different has seemed to only have town motivation behind it.

The only way thisplan is bad is if you think I am scum and FF is not scum with me as it would result in a 1 for 1 trade which would put us in mylo which is probably worth it for scum.

If you're town and anyone follows this plan, 2 townies get lynched. Good plan bro
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 31 2015 02:41 GMT
#8257
On March 31 2015 11:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 10:30 Breshke wrote:
On March 31 2015 10:07 Trfel wrote:
I just realized. Onegu's not saying anything about the orb is actually slightly towny.

If scum gets the orb, they have two possibilities.
  1. Say nothing
  2. Target a teammate (one who isn't carrying KP) and claim roleblock or rolecheck (obviously, claim a vanilla role check)

So, Onegu's play doesn't fit with either of those possibilities. Therefore, I conclude that it is a slightly towny thing to do.


Exactly and mafia still need two misslynches to win so ritoky is trying to throw shit on onegu to secure him as the second misslynch after me.

Instead of lynching me today i think we should do this.

We lynch FECALFEAST. . When he flips scum we then lynch RITOKY. If he flips When he flips scum we then probably lynch DAMDRED.

If ANY of these people flip town town may instantly lynch me and we will just lose the game.

This is where i am at now and i do not see this changing much. I am not as sure on damdred but i do not have room to second guess myself anymore because both vigis have backed up their claims with good town play. Trefel is lock clear, SL deserves the win if he risked shooting a partner, art has put far too much effort into keeping the thread alive and moving forward to be scum and onegu's play while different has seemed to only have town motivation behind it.

The only way thisplan is bad is if you think I am scum and FF is not scum with me as it would result in a 1 for 1 trade which would put us in mylo which is probably worth it for scum.

If you're town and anyone follows this plan, 2 townies get lynched. Good plan bro


Who is town out of me ritoky damdred and onegu
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 31 2015 03:47 GMT
#8258
you or damdred
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 31 2015 03:52 GMT
#8259
hmmm
or ritoky
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 31 2015 04:29 GMT
#8260
So do you think there is mafia outside of (Me, you damdred, onegu, ritoky).

I'm not really understanding where you are at at all. It feels like you are keeping your options open.
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