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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 30 2015 15:50 GMT
#8121
Artanis, I agree with those townreads. I doubt I'd ever be willing to lynch sicklucker. Palmar was last on the "to lynch" list, I don't think that scum would normally kill him there.

Onegu, even if sicklucker himself didn't believe the mason claims, it's possible that the other mafia members did, and overruled sicklucker for the night kills.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 16:31 GMT
#8122
If anyone thinks Onegu is mafia you will have to talk to me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 16:36 GMT
#8123
On March 31 2015 00:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 23:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
SL is town not only for shooting Palmar but because he didn't believe me and HF were masons posted so in thread and me and HF still got shot.

I'm pretty sure he only mentioned that after the shot though, so that doesn't hold too much water.

Trfel is where I would put As your SL, like how can you say a mafia SL could chance a shot on palmar who is a better player but trfel couldn't chance it on LS?

It's the same argument for both players. I just think the rest of Trfel's filter shows a very townie mindset whereas I can pick a few things in SL's filter I think are also townie but am not as convinced in as Trfel.



SL said something day one that was like beware of the lying mason partner


I knew at least one of you were fake. Like who double claims mason day1? Makes some sense to have one do it to report reads but not two...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 16:39 GMT
#8124
And of course I get mad for being scumread because Its all that happens... Town just threw jack of all trades by lynching me even tho I proved without a doubt I was town. Then I tried to smurf into a ongoing game and the host ignored my request. Then mafia got the easist mislynch of all time because people have literately given up on reading me when its not very hard.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#8125
Like I get lynched day1's when I claim power roles now. Its stupid. Im glad I killed palmer dead
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 16:43 GMT
#8126
On March 31 2015 01:31 Vivax wrote:
If anyone thinks Onegu is mafia you will have to talk to me.


I get lynched for doing 1/20th of the shit hes pulled this game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#8127
I dont think artanis is mafia because he would have to push one of his "poe members" by now but hes standing firm
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 17:02 GMT
#8128
If anyones fooling us its ff dandred or toad.

tref artanis and vivax are lock town.

Think I would just play the odds of a consensus town circle and kill breske, onegu, ritoky but things can change
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 30 2015 17:34 GMT
#8129
Okay just got home and saw those big posts from Artanis. First things first I agree with the reads and include Artanis in there as well. He himself is probably around the level of Trfel and Sicklucker for me. I'd rate Sicklucker a little higher simply because while what Artanis mentioned could be the case, Sicklucker using the Orb against Palmar as mafia himself, I just don't think mafia would pick Sicklucker out of all the people to claim that.
No offense but he does not strike me as the kind of basket a team would be willing to put all their eggs into to carry the game himself with a play like that. With Rayn having claimed tracker and ritoky denying it, no matter of Rayns/ritoky's alignment mafia has to know there's no tracker. Also already flipped cop.
Let's say Sicklucker has the orb as mafia. They can make him use it on Palmar, but would they really let him claim it when there's no way to track it? Seems like a situation where he'd do the work while one his buddy takes all the credit. SickLucker is like THE lynchbait carved into human form and I don't think mafia would willingly send him into a possible 1v2 situation.

Since Artanis didn't say anything about himself:
1) filterlenght
2) reads
3) effort/tryhard (which sounds like #1 but it's not)

so for #1: He straight up has too big of a filter to be mafia and has done too much to be mafia. He was under pressure early on from a lot of people including myself but ever since has actively tried to solve the game. Some things I didn't agree with but in general I liked most of the stuff he did after that innitial start of his.
#2: like what he posted about me, our reads just happen to very alike and those posts with us posting reads withing 60-180secs of each other happened by chance (I know I did not look at his reads and you can guess that I can't make a post like that in 180 secs). If nothing else it proves that he's reading the game (which is actually alignment indicative for an abomination of a game that was the first 78 or so hours of this game) and comes to the same conclusion that I came to. No tmi, no weird reads that straight up make no sense and only are in there because he thinks someone is "obviously" towny because of tmi when the guy's really just not. His Onegu read would be the only thing that I'd consider that way but heck, Vivax thinks the same way so I really can't say anything about that either.
#3: So with Eden gone we had a bit of a slow day yesterday. Vivax already mentioned that he didn't feel like posting and just wants to lynch down the list and I got to agree with that, even if I was busy yesterday I wasn't motivated to do anything. And in that situation Artanis gets in the thread and tryhards like crazy. He had all the reason to not do a thing, sit back and scratch his balls as mafia. It didn't happen, he made Vivax and me post more than we would have done otherwise (I think )


In unrelated news: thanks for trying to make it less likely that I'll get shot Damdred, no matter of your alignment, I appreciate the effort. I think it's quite likely that the shot tonight will be between Trfel and me though, depending on what mafia wants the most.

As for the other people, I honestly still think Onegu is shady as fuck. He hasn't done anything and is straight up refusing to do anything with his sheep attitude making it impossible to get an idea about where he truly stands. Vivax and Artanis seem to think quite highly of him and while I don't think he should be lynched next (ritoky/Breshke/FF imo) it is possible that he's mafia after all. Yes I could be wrong, but so could be Artanis&Vivax o/

The other three still look horrible and should be lynched before Onegu, especially if Vivax/Artanis think so strongly about him.

So all that is above is where I disagree slightly with Artanis reads and felt like saying something that he did not include or say in a short summary
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 17:43 GMT
#8130
Onegu is very perceptive and brings original thoughts into the game. His stuff on Trfel and SL is something I'd not expect from mafia as they'd be more careful and try to mesh their opinion with the guys in the PoE. The fact he paid attention to what people said (SL) when he claimed mason is a strong town tell. My 2 cents.

Breshke tomorrow pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 17:47 GMT
#8131
100 % lynch Breshke or lose the game tomorrow guys.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 17:47 GMT
#8132
My last words I suppose. Look em up post-NK. Might actually post some arguments before the night ends.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 17:49 GMT
#8133
But this post will be one of them.

On March 20 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
Breske why are you voting me after reading me right your pretty terrible have you learned nothing... Im playing dota right now but im not letting you gobbers lose another game for town by killing me


Am i terrible or mafia?

Also I still don't really understand how to read LS. I agree with rso? that his list posts thought dump kinda thing is a town tell for him so wouldn't lynch him today but I wouldn't call him town

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 17:53 GMT
#8134
On March 21 2015 07:00 Breshke wrote:
I think masons should probably hardclaim now because its just going to be a headfuck later. I also feel like onegu was never being serious


On March 22 2015 12:11 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Wait...

It's safe to assume that Vivax was in fact roleblocked, and that he is in fact a town vigilante.

My question is, why didn't mafia kill the tracker (raynpelikoneet)? I suppose they could have roleblocked him, but two roleblockers seems strange for mafia. Killing Onegu instead of claimed tracker raynpelikoneet seems particularly strange, especially given that mafia killed Holyflare, the other part of the supposed mason pair.


So if onegu and rayn arnt mason they are mafia.

This means that rso did not get a save.

This means it is very likely toad is mafia because either mafia double stacked HF when there was no reason too. Or mafia also shot VE. I still haven't read a lot of what happend in the night and probs wont get to but I cant think why mafia would do that other than his PR claim

Also a chance mafia hit a vet but idk how likely that is


Another point, why did he start to believe 1gus mason claim after the night ended when D1 he didn't think it was serious?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 18:26 GMT
#8135
Fine but mafia do a thing called pocketing towns. Artanis knows all about that. If onegu didnt say what he said he would be claiming mafia to me anyway
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 18:42 GMT
#8136
On March 31 2015 03:26 sicklucker wrote:
Fine but mafia do a thing called pocketing towns. Artanis knows all about that. If onegu didnt say what he said he would be claiming mafia to me anyway


That's all you have to say to mafia breshke?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22359 Posts
March 30 2015 18:49 GMT
#8137
I'm betting my left nut that bresh is mafia. If any town ditches this lynch tomorrow I'm gonna be mad.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 30 2015 19:20 GMT
#8138
Only I can bet my nuts
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 30 2015 19:35 GMT
#8139
Okay, I'm back. Who's around?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 30 2015 19:39 GMT
#8140
I'm eating right now, gimme like 15-20 minutes
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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