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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 23:47 GMT
#1686
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 23:48 GMT
#1689
On March 20 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote:
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today

When you catch up with everything can I have your reads?

Also applies to you Trfel
Sorry, my reads are for me only. I won't grace other people with them.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 23:58 GMT
#1691
Is it just me, or (at about page 39) sicklucker is complaining about being voted, but also wondering why he isn't being wagoned?

That seems self-conscious and defensive at the same time.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#1700
On March 20 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
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On March 20 2015 08:47 Trfel wrote:
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD


I actually have a question for you.

So you were talking with toad about his palmar scum read and you were basically along the lines of you don't really see it as palmar being scummy.

I'd actually agree with toad that it is. So palmar reads toad as scum for reasons and cbf's explaining them so jsut spams kill toad. Toad gets lynched and is town. I know that you trefel are very self conscious when you are wrong even if your case is really good and you try to change things so you don't make the same mistakes.

Why then do you think that palmar isn't doing that and seemingly ignores past mistakes. Obviously you arn't the same person but would you not think that it would cross palmars mind that oh I read toad as scum for doing this and he was town. Toad is doing these things again maybe this isn't a reason to call him scum.
I don't think that the argument between Palmar and Toadesstern says much about Palmar's alignment, but I do think it suggests that Toadesstern is town. As for it not making Palmar scum, Palmar's played really lazily for many games lately (Linux, Down Under 2, etc). Palmar also really likes to use tonereads. I can understand Palmar seeing Toadesstern's opening, and remembering it being different from the heavily formatted, fancy, and pristine opening that he used in Hammertime Mafia, and saying that Toadesstern is scum for it. I wouldn't actually expect Palmar to check Toadesstern's other games here (which clearly show that Toadesstern's opening post isn't alignment indicative). And if Palmar only knows Toadesstern's play in Hammertime Mafia and this game, his scumread of Toadesstern wasn't that horrible of a play (I would still disagree, but not that horrible).

I guess the difference is probably that I have different expectations for Palmar than you and Toadesstern do.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#1702
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All these people keep playing league... We should play SC2 sometime. Trfel #642 if you want to add me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 02:55 GMT
#1806
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I challenge you to a SC2 best of 3, loser gets lynched. Deal?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 03:01 GMT
#1812
On March 20 2015 11:59 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 20 2015 11:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 20 2015 11:55 Trfel wrote:
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I challenge you to a SC2 best of 3, loser gets lynched. Deal?

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i am in gold league only pls don't hurt me


Seriously though I'm off in about 5 mins and will be home in about 20-25

Pfft Sson I am bronze/UNRANKED.

What, you spend like days play sc2? I cannot top 20 apm average or something like that
I saw that Day[9] Funday Monday cannon rush game that you linked once, haha XD
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 03:34 GMT
#1823
On March 20 2015 12:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
Trfl isn't online on SC2 therefore scum
Was waiting for you to post here....

Turning on SC2 now.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 19:36 GMT
#2548
Sorry, real life jumped up and got frustrating....

Based on the voting, it seems that Vivax and LightningStrike are most likely to be lynched. Are there any other commonly accepted lynch targets?

Damdred wrote a case on Vivax, so I will go read that. Whose filter should I read to see the LightningStrike case?

Thanks.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 19:40 GMT
#2556
On March 21 2015 04:40 rsoultin wrote:
nah, it's between vivax and ls cause people won't trust me on rayn -_-

and lord knows what hf is doing
If I read your filter, is that enough to show all the arguments against raynpelikoneet?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 19:51 GMT
#2570
ExO_, when you don't like any of the wagons and the current reasoning, that's when you should have MORE to say.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#2585
On March 21 2015 05:03 Vivax wrote:
Ok now that enough mafia or idiots are piled up on me I hardclaim Drax.
Well......

##vote raynpelikoneet for now. I wasn't really liking a Vivax lynch anyway (based on the first 4 pages of Vivax's filter and Damdred's case). Raynpelikoneet's filter feels weaker.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#2592
On March 21 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote:
Y'all scrubs have to vote Toad
Why Toadesstern?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#2601
On March 21 2015 05:07 Toadesstern wrote:
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On March 21 2015 05:04 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:03 Vivax wrote:
Ok now that enough mafia or idiots are piled up on me I hardclaim Drax.
Well......

##vote raynpelikoneet for now. I wasn't really liking a Vivax lynch anyway (based on the first 4 pages of Vivax's filter and Damdred's case). Raynpelikoneet's filter feels weaker.

get back on Vivax. Nothing about this claim should make you unvote
I'm not saying that it makes Vivax 100% town. It doesn't. But it definitely makes me hesitant to lynch him today.

The chances are fairly good that we do have a vigilante. Vivax is leaving himself wide open to counterclaims here.

In addition, while (until he started being wagoned) Vivax wasn't very active, his filter seemed aggressive enough to me, and Damdred's case felt exaggerated. The primary point being that it appeared like Vivax really did push Superbia, it's just that he was unable to get many others to agree with him. And yes, eventually he dropped it, as one would expect someone to do when no one else agrees.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#2614
On March 21 2015 05:08 Vivax wrote:
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On March 21 2015 05:07 Trfel wrote:
On March 21 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote:
Y'all scrubs have to vote Toad
Why Toadesstern?


Cause he's still pushing for my lynch and everything I wrote. Are you even reading this game?
I openly acknowledged that I have not much idea of what's going on. I'm sorry. But that's not going to change before this lynch. If you're annoyed at me asking for summaries of things that already happened, you don't need to answer. I'm trying to do the best that I can with limited knowledge.

If Vivax was mafia here, I don't think he would be naturally inclined to pick on the person who actually accepts his claim as genuine?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:15 GMT
#2621
Look, we basically know that there is a vigilante in this game.

Why? Before the final swell of signups, the vigilantes (town and mafia) were listed as having two shots each. Now, they are listed as having one shot each. That makes me extremely likely to think that there is in fact a vigilante in this game.

There might be more than one. But that still seems unlikely. Thus, I think that Vivax's claim leaves him at a fair risk of counterclaim.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#2633
Should I believe raynpelikoneet's claim, and why?
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I don't feel particularly inclined to believe it, but it seems sensible to not lynch him today? Reason is because there is a good chance of there not being a tracker in the game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:19 GMT
#2645
And there lies the problem.... I'm not sure if there are two vigilantes in this game or not.

How many blue roles would we be expected to have in this game? Any clue? The orb sort of counts as a blue role, too...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:23 GMT
#2659
My head hurts.........

I don't see mafia!Toadesstern claiming vigilante here to secure a lynch on Vivax. That seems like a bad play, with the potential exception being if raynpelikoneet is mafia (but raynpelikoneet already claimed tracker, so I don't think Toadesstern's counterclaim vigilante would be necessary). Thus, I believe Toadesstern's claim.

The question then becomes if Vivax should be lynched. I do think it is possible to have two vigilantes in this game, somewhat unlikely, but very possible. Half the Sky does like vigilantes.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 20:26 GMT
#2675
I wasn't scumreading Vivax before this claimfest started.

I agree with Superbia that there is a very real chance that both Vivax and Toadesstern are town. Though Vivax could still be a good lynch today, maybe.
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