EPTThe only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all?
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ExO_
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The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all? | ||
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ExO_
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On March 21 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote: read the thread, I said both did believable things and there could well be 2 town vigis So you really think they're both town is the more likely scenario here? And if not, which one is lying? And now what's gonna happen if they both live through until tomorrow? What's the plan to deal with it then? | ||
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On March 21 2015 16:59 Holyflare wrote: completely ignore it and find the other mafia because that's only one out of seemingly possible 5 Are you kidding me? It's almost certain 1 of the 2 is lying and you want to ignore it? | ||
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On March 21 2015 17:09 Holyflare wrote: why are you so angry? is there only 1 mafia in the game that you're capable of processing or what? Because leaving both of them in the game potentially divides town. It's almost certain one is mafia, take the kill. Instead we get to potentially go through another day not knowing who was lying. I'd hate to have another last second BM lynch, when we know 1 of 2 people is a mafia. | ||
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ExO_
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On March 21 2015 17:15 Holyflare wrote: we DO NOT know one of the 2 people is mafia at all, there most definitely could be 2 town, so why are you always always always acting like there is a mafia!?!?!?!? why do people have to be divided and instead do actual scum hunting and not a random crap shoot in the dark? why can't you base it off their play d2 and not their vigi actions or their claims? like I said, are you incapable of actual scum hunting and why can't you just ignore them despite one of them being obviously mafia to you? Who are the other mafia? It's hardly what I'd call a random crapshoot in the dark. I cannot believe there would be a 2 vigi setup. It'd be just too much combined with the orb. Because of that, their claims are very important. And you want me to ignore the fact that we had 2 people claim the same thing? Especially when it's incredibly likely 1 is scum? Focus on their day 2 play, what so a scum has a chance to survive another day? | ||
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On March 21 2015 17:21 Holyflare wrote: ok seriously, this is exactly why we ignore it, you're just going to keep arguing pointless things that may or may not be true and you have absolutely no idea WHO IS THE OTHER MAFIA If I knew that, I'd tell you right now and we wouldn't have much of a game. Right now most of who I think is mafia comes from what happened at the end of the day. And I realize it might not be the best thing to base my opinion on, and should reevaluate. But I think Vivax is the top of my scum list. Then Rsoultin/Palmar because I don't agree with the vote switching they did. There are players like Breshke who seemed hella inactive then hopped on that wagon that are also suspicious as well. And then there's you for starting the whole "kill BM" thing which I really think was asinine. | ||
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On March 22 2015 02:27 Eden1892 wrote: well I was going to type up a VCA but then I found this and it's more interesting. "I highly doubt there'd be 2 vigs this game and I think lynching Vivax is idiotic because his claim leaves him open to a cc and there hasn't been one" <CC> "He's not confirmed mafia for you cc'ing him, step back and stop tunneling" If ExO_ believes there aren't 2 vigs this game then why is he lecturing one vig claimant about the claimant's certainty in wanting to lynch his counterclaim?? Read my filter. At that point I didn't realize he had CCed | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:24 ExO_ wrote: Wait who is the other claimed vig, I missed it literally 2 posts after what you quoted me. So thats why I was lecturing toad. I didnt realize he had CCed and thought vivax was an un counterclaimed vigi | ||
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When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit. After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him. But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by. And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum). And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block? | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote: But then if you aren't sure of me why do you still have yet to followup on any of the subjects you were pressing me about in the first place??? You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well. | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:36 Eden1892 wrote: well since i'm town you're not wrong  but let's start with some of these others cuz I don't agree. except not with rsoultin, you don't need to worry about her yet - if you decide i'm town you can 100% sheep me on her being town. why HF as mafia? Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there. Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him. | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:47 Onegu wrote: Then why aren't you putting me in your scum list? You haven't made hardly an impression on me, and you didn't vote for BM. Should I have you on my scum list? | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote: tell this guy to ignore the 2 vigi thing and he comes round and scum reads me for perpetuating the 2 vig thing lol What? I'm not going to ignore the 2 vigi thing. We could've resolved it but you derailed it. You had nothing to do with the claims, so how in the world did you perpetuate it? | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote: okay, SB...if you're scum disregard cause i don't really care xP but as town, try to look at it from others' perspectives. just because you are incapable of seeing the possibility of two vigilantes in one game despite the fact that not only has that happened before, but it's happened before in one of blazinghand's games (who is the cohost), doesn't mean others are incapable of believing so take it from someone who has made the same mistake you are making (assuming that you're town)...just cause you don't get the reasoning, and especially just cause you don't agree with it cause that's even more silly xP doesn't mean that the other person is scum also curious why you're not including some of the others on the wagon...like eden and super...in your general spite fest? Super is kinda the same case as Breshke for me. Both were fairly inactive and didn't leave too much of a mark on me. Eden because he's seemed much more towny since his little rage off at me. So right now you mean to tell me, our blues are: 2 Vig, 2 masons, a tracker? Putting aside for now whether or not rayn actually is the tracker, that seemed kinda weak. And the the orbs potential to kill people and 2 mafia KP on the first night, it seems like too much KP that could just swing heavily in Mafia's favor all at once. It'd be trolly, and I don't think the host would've made the game that trolly. | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:04 Holyflare wrote: Dude you think there's a mafia vig and they can get the orb so they could potentially have 7kp im 2 nights Who is thw silly one now? I don't think there's a mafia vig? I think Vivax slipped revealed there isn't a mafia vig, and he just fake claimed vig. | ||
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ExO_
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On March 22 2015 04:07 Holyflare wrote: That sounds like thw worst plan I've ever heard We should go lynch BM, that'll turn out better | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:08 Eden1892 wrote: ExO_ I know you're replying to a lot of things at once rn but why are you ignoring/not acknowledging the fact that HF and Onegu are claiming masons...? Because I'm not sure if I want to accept it or not. But I have seen it and do think its possible, even likely. | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:13 Holyflare wrote: like i don't understand this passive aggressive shit you've been doing all night, bm got lynched and I pushed it. So what? So it was a bad play that I highly disagree with | ||
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