BUT THATS THE THING. Eden didn't say anything me, Artanis or Toad weren't already suggesting. Between us, I don't see any read of his that could have been much more different than ours.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 28 2015 17:10 GMT

#7694

He suggests FF, breshke, super, ritoky I think. Nothing exceptional here, while scum was very conservative with the previous kills just killing off claimed roles or what they believed was a role (yes going with believing Onegu is town still).

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 28 2015 17:11 GMT

#7695

Now they change the pattern when the most logical next kill would be trfel, so that makes me paranoid.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 15:48 GMT

#7830

On March 30 2015 00:38 Damdred wrote:
I want to lynch ritoky or bresh today

Just finished reading breshkes newest posts. I wanna lynch him.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 15:50 GMT

#7831

He went from scumreading FF and ritoky to that post on Super that Artanis didn't like either. His FF read disappeared today apparently. Have yet to see a reason for that.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 17:12 GMT

#7834

On March 30 2015 01:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Damdred, Vivax, can you guys give a bit more input on what you thought of Superbia and Ritoky and their interactions yesterday?

I already know who I want to lynch and don't plan on giving any more input. I discussed this game extensively and besides looking at what Breshke has posted I don't expect anything to change the opinion I already had.

If you guys think lynching super is the best play,which most do, then do it. I already posted who I think is scum: Breshke,FF. These guys are the ones I wanna lynch first cause I'm confident on them, whereas I need more info before guessing who the third could be as I was rolling with the rest being townie so far.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 17:18 GMT

#7835

Or at least give me the interactions you mean as it's too unspecific for me to find what you mean. I checked your filter and I don't see anything you referred to as interactions between the two,unless I missed it.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 19:53 GMT

#7849

On March 30 2015 04:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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What I mean is. Ritoky and Superbia talked a bunch yesterday. Did you see anything interesting in there that changed your opinion on either of them?

Dunno what's the point of asking if you didn't see anything? Feels like an empty question since you don't have an own answer.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 20:13 GMT

#7854

I found one post in ritoky's filter adressed to super as of late, the one where he berates him for not reading ritoky but just rayn. Overall I think ritoky looks townie, and he actually is really stubborn about Damdred and I like it too. He's (Damdred) the guy in the PoE who I would reconsider on most likely, on another reread.

Now actually reading what super wrote like 20 minutes before ritoky replied. I'ma just do this:

Ritoky, I don't even know where he's at, to be honest. His opinion seems uninformed, and I don't think a town would be comfortable lynching someone who they have been unable to form a proper opinion about. Moreover, the rayn slot seems incredibly fishy. I scum-read rayn before the claim (iirc), and I don't understand the rescind off the PR, nor why scum seemingly did not put an RB or a KP on him (more on this later). I can see why rayn would fake claim in that scenario as town, as he had been tired of people not listening to him in previous games, and he may be uninterested in defending himself, but it's so bad as town, because it can bait out a CC. Furthermore, I don't think he used his position of temporary confirmed town to push anything (again, iirc). The fact that this fake-claim has (seemingly, and iirc, I haven't actually read the majority of d2, tbh) not been fully explored yet is alarming to say the least.

So yeah this is a pretty bad read from super. I colored the nullish, the scummish and the townish stuff he says. He effectively invalidates the only reasoning he uses is the tracker claim and no mention of what made him scumread rayn before the claim.

Next post is also weird:

This world only makes sense if Vivax is actually mafia, and scum were looking to confirm Vivax by foregoing the roleblock and claiming it on Vivax OR if Onegu was carrying the KP that was going on rayn. This is still rather speculative, but I think this is a good reason to lynch Ritoky (ex-rayn) today.

Why is it a good reason to lynch ritoky if super thinks that Onegu was carrying KP and that I'm not mafia? He might as well just conclude that Onegu is mafia, so meh, can't get behind his logic as a reason to scumread ritoky.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 20:14 GMT

#7856

Ritoky if I vote for Onegu and he flips town, what happens to your Damdred read?

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 20:17 GMT

#7858

On March 30 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote:
I am wrong and damdred is like 93% town would be my conclusion.

You got no reasons for a standalone damdred scumread?

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 20:35 GMT

#7864

On March 30 2015 05:26 ritoky wrote:

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I am trying to think in terms of teams at this point. The onegu + damdred scum read actually comes almost entirely from damdred's play. The only really excessively scum thing from onegu is his claim stuff. I just think them ignoring eachother links them super hard.

So I guess my answer is yes, a lot of standalone damdred reasons, and I am associatively reading Onegu scum for it; but I kinda think they have to be a team.

What makes you want to lynch Onegu first if Damdred is in your opinion scummy on his own? That makes everything sound like bs.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 20:36 GMT

#7865

Like you say lynch Onegu, then Dam is scum, but what makes you think that Onegu is scum comes from Damdred. So you should want to lynch Dam first.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 20:37 GMT

#7866

The only reason I see for you to prefer Onegu first is that it's the easier lynch.

And that's scummy bro.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 22:11 GMT

#7918

Shorter days would be cool cause the game has become really stale since the establishment of the PoEs. At this point I just wanna sheep Eden's scumreads which are pretty much . I'd have posted even less if Artanis wasn't that tryhard and asked me about super ritoky. No negative connotation intended.

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 22:11 GMT

#7919

pretty much the same as mine*

Vivax

22417 Posts

March 29 2015 22:11 GMT

#7920

Just that I have another order of confidence.