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On March 19 2015 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
well that leaves me with only SL to ask
SL
SL is just wifom to me. He needs to die a few times as town and come around to knowledge of the game before I can really do much with him.
I had a policy of lynching him. If no one is going for HF (really hard d1 with good reason, but I reiterate he is 80% Mafia in my eyes) I am not agianst SL lynch.
On March 19 2015 10:10 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 10:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like seriously....?
"I am not agianst SL lynch."
"why are you not against an sl lynch"
"because i want to lynch you!"
"I'm not reading the thread because i'm so certain on hf!"
^ somehow you know you want to lynch sl (for unknown reasons still because you didn't even answer me) and you ignore the entire thread where you might be wrong on me even though i've found this guy lying twice AND QUOTED IT
and NOW you are trying to get people OFF of SL because I am pushing it WITHOUT EVEN READING THE QUOTES OR GAMES YOURSELF
wtfh slam I did answer you. SL is a lynch I am not against, nor for. You keep saying I am for it, you obviously don't believe me. Also, my reason for not being against SL lynch was a policy I held where I wanted him lynched all the time. But he has been in games since then, so I shouldn't stick with it.
On March 21 2015 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count
sicklucker (1): Alakaslam
s e e m s l e g i t
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On March 26 2015 01:41 Trfel wrote:
I looked at what Alakaslam said once he came back.
Unfortunately, I was gone by that point, so I couldn't interact with him.
But I actually put him at a town lead at this point. His play is just so markedly different from his scum play last game.
If Alakaslam is lynched, it should be due to interactions with flipped mafia.
explain, i have no scum priors on slam
specifically the last point because why just his interactions with flipped mafia?
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On March 26 2015 02:13 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 21:12 Breshke wrote:
sup. Uni decided to shit on me today and it will probably be the same case tomorrow some im probably going to be less help than i would normally be.
Superbia you need to stop asking me if i was lurking when i rock up before deadline. deadline is in the morning for me i normally only wake up like an hour beforehand and that's if it is actually important.
I consider eden to be the only 100% lock clear along with SL and trefel. I cannot imagine a situation where i would ever vote to lynch these three.
I also would not currently lynch either of the vigis, superbia or damdred today. Artanis probably also goes in this category but he is at the bottom of the bunch for me.
This leaves me with Onegu, slam, FF, and ritoky.
I am hoping eden and trefel end up going on one of these four and I can jsut sheep them and be super useless this day phase. I know this post is shit but I don't have much time or willpower for much more at the moment.
Maybe you can help me with this. Why are you sheeping eden?
I am The Rock, we already established this.
You said the key to understanding your alignment is engaging you. How am I supposed to do that? You said you lynched sicklucker based on him being "pure WIFOM." No attempt to understand his alignment?
I don't even know what I'm supposed to engage you on, because for having a 9pg filter all I can remember from you is OMGUS Holyflare, plynch sicklucker, inactivity johns and martyrdom. :/
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I'm here, sell me on it, Slam.
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On March 26 2015 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 02:15 Eden1892 wrote:On March 26 2015 02:13 Alakaslam wrote:On March 25 2015 21:12 Breshke wrote:
sup. Uni decided to shit on me today and it will probably be the same case tomorrow some im probably going to be less help than i would normally be.
Superbia you need to stop asking me if i was lurking when i rock up before deadline. deadline is in the morning for me i normally only wake up like an hour beforehand and that's if it is actually important.
I consider eden to be the only 100% lock clear along with SL and trefel. I cannot imagine a situation where i would ever vote to lynch these three.
I also would not currently lynch either of the vigis, superbia or damdred today. Artanis probably also goes in this category but he is at the bottom of the bunch for me.
This leaves me with Onegu, slam, FF, and ritoky.
I am hoping eden and trefel end up going on one of these four and I can jsut sheep them and be super useless this day phase. I know this post is shit but I don't have much time or willpower for much more at the moment.
Maybe you can help me with this. Why are you sheeping eden? I am The Rock, we already established this. You said the key to understanding your alignment is engaging you. How am I supposed to do that? You said you lynched sicklucker based on him being "pure WIFOM." No attempt to understand his alignment? I don't even know what I'm supposed to engage you on, because for having a 9pg filter all I can remember from you is OMGUS Holyflare, plynch sicklucker, inactivity johns and martyrdom. :/ What's your answer to that?
Jabroni please
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On March 26 2015 02:24 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 16:31 Onegu wrote:On March 03 2015 12:16 prplhz wrote:26 @rsoultin Can you show me this Alakaslam bored/notbored read thing you have going on? I just checked out these scum games 1 3 7 and these town games 1 51 i and I don't see it. No, my meta read is good on slam rsoultins is bad. Count how many times he has said chupazi, Svengali, or hijole this game(after day post) multiply by (5+day #) then subtract he post count (including pregame) if you are in the negative he is scum. In the positive he is town.
holy shit is this real? lmfao
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my god
this might be the most brilliant thing i've ever read in the field of mafia meta reads
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chupazi: 5
hijole: 6
svengali: 2
tot = 13
* 5 = 65
- 184 = way below 0
= scum
...lol
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On March 26 2015 02:28 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 02:26 Eden1892 wrote:On March 26 2015 02:24 Onegu wrote:On March 03 2015 16:31 Onegu wrote:On March 03 2015 12:16 prplhz wrote:26 @rsoultin Can you show me this Alakaslam bored/notbored read thing you have going on? I just checked out these scum games 1 3 7 and these town games 1 51 i and I don't see it. No, my meta read is good on slam rsoultins is bad. Count how many times he has said chupazi, Svengali, or hijole this game(after day post) multiply by (5+day #) then subtract he post count (including pregame) if you are in the negative he is scum. In the positive he is town. holy shit is this real? lmfao Eden, this is what I'm saying. Do you think it is a coincidence that Alakaslam decided to play "normally", without CHUPAZI, svengali, or hijole, the game after this "Alakaslam formula" was unveiled? I certainly don't.
i mean, most likely no?
but if this is him playing normally... refer to my post summarizing his game for why i'm unimpressed
and now he's stealth voting me without directing me to figure out how to read him
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so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.
regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.
how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you
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On March 26 2015 02:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gone for most of the evening in 8 min btw so if you have questions ask them now
why should i tr slam
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i ask because typically even the scummiest scummers do SOME townie things
and
i can only think of the initial reaction to hf's push on slam that MAYBE felt townie (calling him out on logic fallacies specifically), but that hardly counts for shit this late in the game
and
i can't tell if that's because i'm hella right and he's obvious scum
or if i'm hella wrong and not seeing the reasons he's town bc confirmation bias
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dang putting a bunk bed together is tough
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On March 26 2015 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 02:39 Trfel wrote:
It is strange that Alalaslam calls Eden scum for trying to figure out his alignment, but calls Vivax scum for wanting to lynch him today, which is his request. NEITHER OF EDEN OR VIVAX ARE ACTUALLY TRYING YOU FOOL. They are simply taunting me and changing what I say. They refuse to read what I have actually said and are taking advantage of my being so behind on the game by refusing to answer anything I ask.
I'm not taunting you. You literally have only asked me so far what I think of you calling me scum. It's ridiculous because I'm obviously town, it proves nothing about the game because you're either inattentive or mafia or both which I already knew.
On March 26 2015 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote:
so Slam. I ask again. you only contended that my summary was wrong in that your martyrdom was limited.
regardless based on your body of work it's pretty much impossible for me to believe you're town.
how am I supposed to change my mind about you? what am I supposed to be seeing? help me help you You are supposed to be seeing frustration and inability to aid, you should see a logic that is trying to aid town from a position of literally no information. You should see me GIVING A FUCK BECAUSE AS SCUM I WOULDNT. I WOULD JUST LOL AT YOU AND GO FOR YOUR nk EARLIER. You should see me popping in so rarely and only saying things like "page 302, boss 302" and my opinion on things here and there. You should have fucking lynches me when I asked for it, not always as the pocket lynch at the end until scum finds they need an ML NOW this is why you are so scum in my eyes. I can see a scum strategy and you are following it better than the town strategy and you refuse to inform me. THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOUKD SEE HILY SHIT NO JNFORMATION LIKE WTF I COULD ASK MY SCUMTEAM TO KEEP ME UPDATED VERSUS ROLLING OVER USELESS LIKE THIS. I COULD AT LEAST ACT LIKE I WAS IP ON THE THREAD
I don't want to fucking lynch you if I don't have to. Holy shit. I don't know what part of that isn't clear since I've repeatedly said "you are not helping me by trying to get me to lynch you." I have you in my POE pile. You know what that means? I have other people I don't want to lynch, I don't know what you are and I'm trying to narrow the game down to where I can lynch you regardless of your alignment and still win. Getting yourself lynched literally changes nothing about the game. Doing things that I can townread you off of OTOH will allow me to move you out of the POE list and (if you're town) get me that much closer to winning.
Refuse to inform you about what? The 300 pages you're behind on? Ain't nobody got time to go over everything. What do you want to know?
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On March 26 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 04:20 Eden1892 wrote:
dang putting a bunk bed together is tough Eden! Talk to me. I want to lynch Onegu. Why is this a bad idea, and who do you want to lynch, and why?
I just don't see Onegu fakeclaiming mason as mafia and then actually riding with it when Holyflare decided to claim it with him. Like what's the plan for doing that? As Vivax pointed out earlier, the instant Holyflare flipped not-mason we all started looking hard at Onegu being mafia. Knowing that the scumteam was likely to want to shoot Holyflare if they could, it seems unnecessarily risky for Onegu to followthrough like he did.
I'd rather lynch Fecalfeast for the stuff I said earlier (and shouts to Vivax for noting it first). He made this big case on LS that was pretty legit and then immediately dropped it and literally never brought it up again until it was time to claim kudos for catching LS. When he had the opportunity to push his lynch at eod1 he never does so. Then once town starts getting organized he just checks out of the game, which seems consistent with a mafia team that was starting to struggle to disrupt the town team's investigations. (admittedly there might be extenuating circumstances for his absence, but until i see them i can't assume that)
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On March 26 2015 03:14 Alakaslam wrote:
You know what Eden I bet you don't play offsite much anymore. I think you would find that you are not nearly as good as you think you are because the way you play is way too open to reading based purely on activity which is a massive TL thing. You don't see this played up so strongly anywhere else.
wow somehow i'm completely unconvinced to change anything about what i'm doing zzz
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On March 26 2015 03:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 03:14 Trfel wrote:On March 26 2015 02:26 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, if you are town, it's obvious that you don't want to be lynched later in the game. I'm assuming this is because later lynches feel more importance, particularly LYLO. And you would feel more guilty being lynched later as opposed to right now.
However, overall, all lynches carry equal weight. If you get mislynched now, that's one mislynch, the same as if you were mislyched at LYLO. And that's why it doesn't help town to mislynch you now. So asking to be lynched now or never isn't something that town can comply with.
I want to delay your lynch for one day, and preferably for much more than that.
If you are town, it would be nice to see you read over the last 5-10 pages (or however much you are willing to read and have time for) and then post your thoughts based on those pages. No one expects you to read the entire thread, in fact most people here have not done so. The nice thing is that by talking with people who have read the entire thread, you can sort of get okay reads. Alakaslam, this is why it doesn't make sense for town to decide to lynch you early or never. This is false because if I was lynched earlier, eden's world would be smashed and people sheeping Eden would have to wake up and reevaluate. If town can actually afford it my lynch could be the best thing that happens to it. But I am beginning to doubt that town can afford it.
it's fucking 10 to 3 right now. 10. to 3.
this setup is effectively a 10-3 vanilla game except that we have like 4 confirmed-in-all-but-name townies in our two claimed vigs, sicklucker and trfel
we can absolutely afford your ML BUT IF IT WOULD BE A MISLYNCH I DON'T FUCKING WANT TO DO IT
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On March 26 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote:
Also SLam, we're in an amazing spot. That talk of mislynches being pushed and scum being in a sick spot makes no sense, D1 we lynched a guy who was a prime vig target when I started playing, D2 we lynched scum, today we lynch another guy nobody wants at lylo. It's going swimmingly!
it's why he's probably town though
he seems genuinely completely unaware of how bad a spot scum is in right now
obviously "he could be faking it" but i don't think he is.
slam prolly town.
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yea that vote doesn't say anything for onegu's alignment lol
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oh it's 9-3 lol
even better i guess, one fewer townie to sort out.
will not lynch:
myself
vivax
toad
trfel
sl
probably will not lynch:
artie
slam
damd
onegu
remaining:
superbia
fecalfeast
ritoky
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