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On March 24 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ I think clearing people for votes is too easy. Now that you pointed it out, Onegu did vote LS at a crucial time, but Palmar switching to BM does not feel that significant as both BM and Vivax are likely town. Also, Onegu keeping his vote on LS all day rather than choosing a side kind of counts against him, but N2 should create some clarity here. Rayn, Toad is not scum. I am 99% sure. Already said this? But here's the deal, Artanis. Two vigilantes on the loose super scary! Can only roleblock one! Better for scum if one goes down with the lynch. Only one real vigilante...who cares lol so for your analysis to hold water on Palmar...you have to consider one of the vigilantes to be possibly fake...and that can only be Toad BALLING see vivax i can do logic  Eliminate the impossible and what remains, however unlikely, is true. I find it impossible that Toad is mafia this game. I don't know if Palmar is, but him switching from town to town even if one is a town vig is certainly possible.
-amused-
you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, for one scum to take the fall for another at a later time
interesting, i thought they said you were smart
impossible is too strong a word
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On March 24 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages.
You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummyi mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum  secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye.
dude
i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now?
you're freaking out too much
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On March 24 2015 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:20 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 24 2015 01:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Anyway I'll make it known I'd lynch Palmar, if anything cause he bored the hell out of me when he showed up. I promise it's not cause he works in a bank. I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ I think clearing people for votes is too easy. Now that you pointed it out, Onegu did vote LS at a crucial time, but Palmar switching to BM does not feel that significant as both BM and Vivax are likely town. Also, Onegu keeping his vote on LS all day rather than choosing a side kind of counts against him, but N2 should create some clarity here. Rayn, Toad is not scum. I am 99% sure. Already said this? But here's the deal, Artanis. Two vigilantes on the loose super scary! Can only roleblock one! Better for scum if one goes down with the lynch. Only one real vigilante...who cares lol so for your analysis to hold water on Palmar...you have to consider one of the vigilantes to be possibly fake...and that can only be Toad BALLING see vivax i can do logic Eliminate the impossible and what remains, however unlikely, is true. I find it impossible that Toad is mafia this game. I don't know if Palmar is, but him switching from town to town even if one is a town vig is certainly possible. -amused- you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, for one scum to take the fall for another at a later time interesting, i thought they said you were smart impossible is too strong a word This reason being brought up is enough of a reason to make it infinitely more likely than a Toad scum scenario.
so riddle me this, artanis
if there was no CC on Vivax, what do you think would have happened? hypotheticals
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On March 24 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages.
You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummyi mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye. dude i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now? you're freaking out too much Except that things like that NECESSARILY MAKE SOMEONE MAFIA!
it's a strong argument, rayn, i'm not saying it's not. i'm saying it doesn't confirm he's mafia 100%. are you going to argue that one with me?
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nah yeah that makes sense
:/
can i have onegu though? i was super excited lol >< bursting my excitement!bubbles
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On March 24 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course that does not make me or Palmar mafia if you are town.
Why would anyone argue that?
it doesn't make you two town is what he's saying >>
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On March 24 2015 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look i try to confirm myself as town in a way or another.
I do that every game. I have claimed a cop at the start of the game once, to make people trust me.
If i feel like there is mistrust in my reads and i have a way to make them read (in case i can't do that by just presenting them) then i claim if i can.
:/
fake-claiming...really, really does not make you look more townie to me rayn lol ><
can you just admit it so we can move on?
you do realize that there are so many claims now that it's actually hurting us rather than helping us if you're not the real tracker for you to perpetuate the charade?
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-_- dude whatever man; that's an entirely different game
i'm not gonna argue with you. it's just lovely that you fake-claim so often you can never be believed xP
so back to toad. anything other than the wall-of-text reads on all the currently leading potential wagons that has you thinking toad is the scummiest scum of all scummers?
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On March 24 2015 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't claim when it does not benefit me. As town or as mafia.
I don't fakeclaim when it does not benefit me, i have never fakeclaimed as scum except for the bitchcraft game where i knew i could win as scum for doing that. I have reasons when i claim/fakeclaim.
i'm not saying you don't?
votes were shifting to you
LS was the other leading wagon when vivax claimed
there are reasons to fake-claim there as scum...or town really if you want to head off the lynch
talk to me about something alignment indicative cause i don't want to argue with you about this as it won't get us anywhere xP
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ignore the irrelevant point lol xP i'm thinking two things at once
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On March 24 2015 04:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 03:57 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't claim when it does not benefit me. As town or as mafia.
I don't fakeclaim when it does not benefit me, i have never fakeclaimed as scum except for the bitchcraft game where i knew i could win as scum for doing that. I have reasons when i claim/fakeclaim. i'm not saying you don't? votes were shifting to you LS was the other leading wagon when vivax claimed there are reasons to fake-claim there as scum...or town really if you want to head off the lynch talk to me about something alignment indicative cause i don't want to argue with you about this as it won't get us anywhere xP I need to correct you as this is factually incorrect since I looked at the votecounts myself. Right after my claim 3 ppl piled on rayn.
i said to ignore the irrelevant point? which was the LS one -_-
votes were shifting to rayn is exactly what i already said lol
it's cool though i know it's confusing when i mix thoughts together :/
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On March 24 2015 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Rayn a thing that ha sbeen buried and that many saw as relevant was that you felt like hardclaiming when your scumread rso prompted you. well it's not true. she didn't even have a case. why would i care as scum?
you're missing the point
if you think i'm scum why are you outing when i ask you...demand really...to hard claim?
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On March 24 2015 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 04:12 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2015 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Rayn a thing that ha sbeen buried and that many saw as relevant was that you felt like hardclaiming when your scumread rso prompted you. well it's not true. she didn't even have a case. why would i care as scum? you're missing the point if you think i'm scum why are you outing when i ask you...demand really...to hard claim? THAT IS NOT WHY I OUTED. WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO FUCKING RETARDED! I don't wanna play this game any more.
you said you're blue
i said hardclaim or i don't accept it
you said you're tracker
and that has nothing to do with why you hard-claimed?
how can you look at that sequence and not think they're related? even if it's not what you did it's obviously not retarded, so calm down -_- screaming doesn't make me think you're town you know. maybe it does others but i'm emotionally retarded as we've already established with robik ^^
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On March 24 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like you are so fucking dumb here rsoultin. are you mafia?
how am i dumb?
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On March 24 2015 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am not going to explain anything to you. lynch me for it.
go fucking try.
you do realize that the pulse of the thread right now means you probably will be lynched day 3?
it would benefit you to explain
you specifically claimed at my request while simultaneously scumreading me, or that's what it looks like
is there a different explanation?
cause so far all i've seen is FUCK FUCK FUCK SCUM LYNCHED ME LAST TIME FOR BAD REASONS
but that doesn't explain it?
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On March 24 2015 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 04:21 rsoultin wrote:
you do realize that the pulse of the thread right now means you probably will be lynched day 3? And i don't care about it the slightest.
-_-
i think i know why i just want you to tell me instead of me feeding you the answer
why are you being so difficult?
i was fine with your answer before but vivax clearly wasn't
can you just explain please?
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fine i'll spell it out
you claimed because you didn't want to be lynched and people weren't listening to you (you've pretty much already said it but i think part of the problem is you're not being terribly direct, however much you may think you are)
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On March 24 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote:
fine i'll spell it out
you claimed because you didn't want to be lynched and people weren't listening to you (you've pretty much already said it but i think part of the problem is you're not being terribly direct, however much you may think you are)
rayn, if you're gonna curse and scream about people not reading, at least do me the courtesy of reading my entire post before flaming
please and thank you ^^
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On March 24 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2015 04:29 Trfel wrote:On March 24 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote:
fine i'll spell it out
you claimed because you didn't want to be lynched and people weren't listening to you (you've pretty much already said it but i think part of the problem is you're not being terribly direct, however much you may think you are) No. I claimed because i wanted to be listened. I was puching fucking mafia. You are all terrible. AND DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME! Who were you punching? Toadesstern? LighntnighStrike and Toad.
mostly toad at that juncture
i do actually think that he could be scum here...
one of the things we've said too much is there's not much incentive for toad to CC vivax but there are actually two very good incentives
1. Vivax was trying to get Toad lynched after making his claim - survival
2. Depending on LightningStrike's role when he flips, it could also be an attempt to preserve LightningStrike
so
Toad does have to be read independent of his claim. i agree
can we talk about Toad now as I wanted to originally -_-
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