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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 03:44 GMT
#829
Sorry, I meant, what implications do you think this has on Holyflare's alignment? (and maybe if it says anything about those who voted Alakaslam with him)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 03:48 GMT
#831
On March 19 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote:
It gives me a bit of pause at this juncture, also Slam went against quite possibly the hardest hitting player in the thread because he thought he was getting railroaded early. I think that's kind of towny coming from slams position rather than just straight omgus.
Oh, Damdred already said this. Town points to Damdred, then.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 03:51 GMT
#833
Thanks, that makes sense.

That's one nice thing about no post limits, I can thank people for answering questions and it doesn't feel like I'm wasting a post.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 03:58 GMT
#837
One thing that makes Alakaslam suspicious is that he does seem fairly defensive early on. But I don't necessarily think that makes him mafia here?

In Down Under 2, Alakaslam was wagoned for most of Day 1, but never actually defended himself. He was scum. Perhaps aggressively defending himself is a sign of being town?

And I am well aware that I am both ignoring and using meta on Alakaslam simultaneously. Deal with it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:01 GMT
#843
On March 19 2015 13:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 12:34 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:26 Damdred wrote:
Actually slam has literally come into the game super serious and is throwing mud on HF? Slam is probable scum i'm parroting here a bit
Why does this make Alakaslam scum? I feel like his attack on Holyflare is more likely to come from town than scum, since attacking a high profile player early on seems like a poor play from scum.

Also, can someone explain to me why Alakaslam says that Holyflare's scumread of him is WIFOM? To me it seems like a meta read, not WIFOM.

Thanks!

I was saying Holyflare (and other's!) confirmation claims are wifom.
Sorry, what's a confirmation claim?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:06 GMT
#852
On March 19 2015 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 19 2015 08:52 Trfel wrote:
On March 17 2015 10:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey

This game

I am doing what I never do

Pregame wifom excuse

So it should actually hold weight

I have no idea what my schedule will do this week. It could get very busy, it could be I AM HEER

Depends unfortunately
Anyone remember this?

It's still true and why I have been in and out
Just noticed this.

I referred to the "I am doing what I never do" part, as in Alakaslam playing seriously. Alakaslam thought I was referring to activity. Perhaps he is being self-conscious?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:11 GMT
#856
Toadesstern, Palmar wasn't in Jack of all Trades. Therefore I think it's reasonable to assume he didn't read it and didn't know that you opened in the same way.

I'm not sure if you are aware, but as of late, Palmar has become an incredibly lazy player in many of his games. I wouldn't expect him to check your game history for this.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:12 GMT
#857
On March 19 2015 13:08 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 13:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 19 2015 08:52 Trfel wrote:
On March 17 2015 10:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey

This game

I am doing what I never do

Pregame wifom excuse

So it should actually hold weight

I have no idea what my schedule will do this week. It could get very busy, it could be I AM HEER

Depends unfortunately
Anyone remember this?

It's still true and why I have been in and out
Just noticed this.

I referred to the "I am doing what I never do" part, as in Alakaslam playing seriously. Alakaslam thought I was referring to activity. Perhaps he is being self-conscious?

Dang, I already got baited into replying.

The thing he claims never to do is make pregame wifom excuses for activity. Slam wasn't talking about playing especially seriously there
Oh, I see, thanks. That makes sense.

My bad.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:14 GMT
#861
On March 19 2015 08:50 Eden1892 wrote:
hmm i think i like damdred
Eden, why did you say this?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:19 GMT
#872
On March 19 2015 13:16 Toadesstern wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:11 Trfel wrote:
Toadesstern, Palmar wasn't in Jack of all Trades. Therefore I think it's reasonable to assume he didn't read it and didn't know that you opened in the same way.

I'm not sure if you are aware, but as of late, Palmar has become an incredibly lazy player in many of his games. I wouldn't expect him to check your game history for this.

he was completly crushed in hammertime after mislynching me d1 and singlehandedly ruining the game by doing exactly the same read he did this game. I do a post like that every game I played recently and the tone changes most of the times.
Depends on wether I prepare it ahead of time or wether I'm posting while doing something else. And he ran into exactly the same mistake.

What I'm saying is that there's no way he'd repeat that mistake after that crushing defeat in hammertime without at least checking. That's the important point here. He got wrecked and doesn't care in the slightest bit while knowing everything he said last time about me was wrong already when he tried to read me that time
I guess I see where you're coming from, but I still don't think it makes Palmar mafia, given my (limited) knowledge of his play and personality.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:22 GMT
#879
Did Palmar really lynch Toadesstern because of his opening post? If not, I fail to see the argument here.

And I don't like Eden ignoring me.....
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:26 GMT
#887
On March 19 2015 13:25 Toadesstern wrote:
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On March 19 2015 13:22 Trfel wrote:
Did Palmar really lynch Toadesstern because of his opening post? If not, I fail to see the argument here.

And I don't like Eden ignoring me.....

noone knows. He kept on spamming "Kill Toad" for 72hours while refusing to explain it more than that it's based on my tone and phrasing

But well, I'm going to bed know... 6am over here
Fair enough, good night Toadesstern. Should have gone to sleep long ago XD
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:38 GMT
#895
Thanks for the answer, Eden. Your play makes more sense now, I misread something, so it's not actually suspicious.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:54 GMT
#901
On March 19 2015 13:45 Eden1892 wrote:
Sure thing. Who are your suspects right now, Trfel? You're saying a lot of pretty sensible things and asking questions that are showing me you're paying attention, but I'm not sure who you suspect.
To be honest, at the moment I'm not sure.....

I think the Holyflare/Alakaslam argument boils down to some misinterpretations (pending an explanation of what a confirmation read is). So I don't think it is particularly alignment indicative, except for Alakaslam being willing to attack Holyflare.

I thought I found a pretty terrible contradiction in sicklucker's filter, but I realized I was misinterpreting a post.

I'm still on page 22, and as much as I'd like to keep playing, I really need to go to bed or I'm going to sleep through class tomorrow. I'm sorry I don't have any actual reads yet. At this very moment, sicklucker is probably the best lynch for reasons others have stated already, but I'm not sure if they are truly alignment indicative. I'll take a look tomorrow.

Good night, all.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 04:56 GMT
#902
Ugh, why do my horrible posts always end up as page-toppers...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 14:11 GMT
#1228
O.O you Europeans post so much.....

I'll try to catch up sometime later today, but I need to go to class, so this could take quite some time.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 14:18 GMT
#1235
On March 19 2015 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 19 2015 23:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd rather give Rayn some more time because putting pressure on Rayn rarely has its intended effect and we're not even half a day in.


no i've literally caught him out on something that makes him most definitely mafia, he can bitch and whine all you want and you can relax in the knowledge that he's just still plain old mafia and we are guaranteed a mafia lynch today

so sheep me
And you're more sure about this than your previous reads on Alakaslam and sicklucker?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 14:22 GMT
#1240
On March 19 2015 23:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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no i've literally caught him out on something that makes him most definitely mafia

No you haven't, he's just been pretty useless so far. Piling on him is just going to make him mad and be guaranteed unproductive for the rest of the day and shit up the thread. If he's still unproductive by the time we approach deadline I'm happy to vote him but not until then.
This reminds me a whole lot of ritoky last game...

If raynpelikoneet does flip mafia, this probably deserves a second look. Just saving it for my memory.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 14:24 GMT
#1242
On March 19 2015 23:21 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 23:14 Vivax wrote:
Super what I don't get is your opinion on the fake miller claim at the time. If you found it scummy then it warrants that question to Trfel, but judging from your posting you didn't even deem it comment-worthy. You jump at Trfel for suggesting that the claim is a joke even though for you that didn't seem to be an issue.

Did you at any point in time think that Eden was mafia who made a blooper when fakeclaiming?


I disagree. I think it was interesting, but I could see the fake-claim coming from either alignment. I thought trfel's hard defense was much more interesting. I was wondering why he was willing to defend eden like that. In retrospect I actually completely forgot about it. Looking at his filter now it seems like he seemed unsure about eden prior to FF bringing up the fake claim. Which makes the hard defend more strange. Trfel, any input on this?

Also I hesistated on Eden for a slight moment when FF came out with the info, as I said before. As it stands, I think my town read on Eden still holds somewhat solid.
Regardless of Eden's alignment, I felt that his miller claim was obviously a joke. Since Fecalfeast was very persistent about it, and no one else was answering, I shared my thoughts on the matter.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 14:27 GMT
#1245
On March 19 2015 23:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 23:22 Trfel wrote:
On March 19 2015 23:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
no i've literally caught him out on something that makes him most definitely mafia

No you haven't, he's just been pretty useless so far. Piling on him is just going to make him mad and be guaranteed unproductive for the rest of the day and shit up the thread. If he's still unproductive by the time we approach deadline I'm happy to vote him but not until then.
This reminds me a whole lot of ritoky last game...

If raynpelikoneet does flip mafia, this probably deserves a second look. Just saving it for my memory.

This is dumb thinking because I'm committing myself to voting for Rayn if he doesn't improve regardless.
Which is exactly what mafia!Artanis[Xp] would want to do with suspicion on mafia!raynpelikoneet.

I see why town!Artanis[Xp] would do exactly what you just did. And I think the chance that my comment actually means something isn't all that high. I'm just saying it to make sure I don't forget. When I miss something and it costs me the game (in this case, lost the game at 5p LYLO due to this), I want to make sure I don't make the same mistake again.
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