EPTOn March 25 2015 06:59 Superbia wrote:
Probably not before EoN. =/ Hopefully I'm still alive as the morning comes. :D
Probably not before EoN. =/ Hopefully I'm still alive as the morning comes. :D
Well, I don't think you're getting shot by mafia.
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Well, I don't think you're getting shot by mafia. | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:06 Superbia wrote: No, no. That's absolutely irrelevant. The play is to let both KP go through 100%. The misslynch on slam is absolutely irrelevant, because you go into d2 with 5 townies dead and suspicion on the Vigis. 5v10. If you secure a misslynch on that day you have mylo in d3. 1. You don't know if Vivax is shooting Slam or someone else. 2. RBing Vivax isn't between 4 or 2 KP but 4 or 3 KP 3. An alive town Slam is highly likely to get lynched. I don't find your case very convincing. I think there's a good chance Slam is scum, but not because of this. | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote: Can you tell me the other reason slam is scum? Super serious at the start, convincingly wanted to change his town meta, then basically stopped playing. If he truly felt strongly about it I think we would've seen more of him this game. | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:09 Superbia wrote: Like I am showing, with math, why it is the correct play for mafia to let both vigi KP go through if it's both on town. You get a possible d3 mylo with 2 huge question marks (vigis), which you will just leave alive for the rest of the game. SO EASY. No, the only thing a RB on Vivax changes is that SOMEONE that Vivax, and presumably town really suspects stays alive and gets to probably be mislynched another day. Question marks is something mafia always wants to keep in the game so they can hide more easily. | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote: Yeah but you're making a lot of assumptions. Such as vigis don't shoot into prot, JK doesn't stop a vigi shot, and vigis shoot town instead of mafia. All of those things have to break mafia's way for the mathematical scenario you brought up to occur. That's a lot of factors out of mafia's control. Also this. | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote: Maybe he just realized that a cat is a cat. You can put funny hats on it or little cat boots or even a sweater, but it still remains a cat. I don't think slam is the kind of guy who can help but be himself. I didn't read the early game so I can't attest to that, but I have a pretty good read on him, and he is leaning town on his way to town for me. Can you explain that read on him? | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:16 Superbia wrote: Like this should be mafia's perspective if slam is town and both vigis are real. Town is calling for a shot on VE and slam. Both toad and vivax seem to comply. What does mafia have to lose by not RBing and letting both shots go through? I've explained what mafia has to gain, possible d3 mylo and 2 big question marks for misslynches. But both Toad and Vivax looked so townie. Town was also coming around to the idea of 2 town vigis by that time regardless of the shots, so I disagree that it truly would leave 2 big question marks. Essentially all that's different with the RB is that Slam is still alive and can still get mislynched, presuming town. | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:19 Superbia wrote: No way town keeps these strong townreads going into d2 with those flips dude. Flips change nothing when you've collectively decided on the shots. Hell, Toad shot a townread of his in VE and he's still collectively thought of as town by those with thinking caps on. | ||
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Randomly burning Vivax along the way is the only thing that keeps me going in this game as long as he lives. | ||
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It would actually be a good point for Vivax to make that I knew that and that's why I started pushing the whole both players should shoot slam thing so late, but then again Vivax can only call me scum for reasons that actually make me town. | ||
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This annoys me as well because I was quite sure Rayn was scum. His reads were so shallow and static, let alone his claim thing. | ||
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