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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 19 2015 00:59 GMT
#561
On March 19 2015 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly?


whatever you want it to mean baby

you tell me what you think of it


I think it doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to post like that. And like immediately out of the gate too. It doesn't really make sense from any other perspective either. But my initial thought is: if you're mafia, your teammates probably are going to be pissed that you did that. So it's much more likely that he's a Town trolling.

I can kinda go down the road of "that's what he wants us to think" but I think that makes things too complicated. So for now I think that makes him town.

But it feels wrong to give somebody town points for coming out of the gate and saying they are scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 19 2015 01:00 GMT
#562
On March 19 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
Dumbtell boys. How many mafia are there in a game of 20? 5?

I'm getting bad feels from this post. The dumbtell part feels forced like he's super aware of what he's doing.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 19 2015 01:00 GMT
#563
On March 19 2015 09:59 sicklucker wrote:
BUT I WAS MODKILLED TWICE IN LIKE 24-48 HOURS AT THE END OF DAY1 ONCE AS EACH ALIGNMENT. I barely remember either game all I remember dandred tunneled me on both and the entire game was fixated on me.

Anyway ill just solve this game on day2 again like last time. Im getting some weird vibes from superbia. In my first mafia game I think I recall him doing some town claim at the start let me look it up. He also has not posted anything of value


Lol. Idk about the case on you but you don't want to go down this path.
Minimal effort.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 19 2015 01:00 GMT
#564
wait, no no no.

If HF says someone is "lying" and a whole bunch of sheep think so, this says nothing.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 01:00 GMT
#565
On March 19 2015 09:59 Superbia wrote:
K. What's the thing on SL? He lied hard about another game or something? Pls enlighten.

he tried to play it off like he didn't know what my godread on rsoultin was about (he does)

but he tried to do so by claiming not to have played games with us (he did)

and then he tried to justify it by saying that he wasn't town and doesn't read games when he's mafia (he was town)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 19 2015 01:00 GMT
#566
On March 19 2015 09:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually I just ctrl-f'd Palmar's filter from that game and he only said it 28 times. Also, he didn't ragequit after. I believe it was weekend and then he got almost instahammered.

he said something along the lines of "sorry" after the lynch and nothing else until game was over...
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On March 19 2015 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
um so you're saying palmar doesn't check if you use that word but says you probably wouldn't say it and that makes him mafia??? bro I did the same thing and I even pointed out the post first (AND you said you used it in your past 5 games and you aren't even going after me at all????) and i'm not mafia

how does any of that make him mafia?


You didn't spend 48 hours writing nothing else but "Kill Toad" and "his D1 tone seems off" only to mislynch me by bullying town into lynching me so I couldn't care less about you right now. But there's literally no way Palmar is going to be unaffected by a game like that only to pull off the same thing again.

Go read that game. There's literally 0% chances of Palmar accusing me of the same thing this game if he was town.

Pretty sure the night was in the weekend and he was hammered before he woke up pretty much.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 01:01 GMT
#567
On March 19 2015 10:00 Alakaslam wrote:
wait, no no no.

If HF says someone is "lying" and a whole bunch of sheep think so, this says nothing.

uh excuse me technically HE'S sheeping ME
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 01:01 GMT
#568
On March 19 2015 09:59 Superbia wrote:
K. What's the thing on SL? He lied hard about another game or something? Pls enlighten.


couple things, but yeah, essentially

he gave a quick townread on me lol which i only accept from certain people and rarely consider alignment indicative xP he is not generally someone i'd expect to townread me this early

(that's one of the other things)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 19 2015 01:01 GMT
#569
On March 19 2015 10:00 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:59 Superbia wrote:
K. What's the thing on SL? He lied hard about another game or something? Pls enlighten.

he tried to play it off like he didn't know what my godread on rsoultin was about (he does)

but he tried to do so by claiming not to have played games with us (he did)

and then he tried to justify it by saying that he wasn't town and doesn't read games when he's mafia (he was town)


RSO, confirm?
Minimal effort.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 01:02 GMT
#570
oh also rsoultin and i are town this game.

take it to the bank, that check will clear
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2015 01:02 GMT
#571
Like seriously....?

"I am not agianst SL lynch."
"why are you not against an sl lynch"
"because i want to lynch you!"
"I'm not reading the thread because i'm so certain on hf!"

^ somehow you know you want to lynch sl (for unknown reasons still because you didn't even answer me) and you ignore the entire thread where you might be wrong on me even though i've found this guy lying twice AND QUOTED IT

and NOW you are trying to get people OFF of SL because I am pushing it WITHOUT EVEN READING THE QUOTES OR GAMES YOURSELF


wtfh slam
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 19 2015 01:02 GMT
#572
On March 19 2015 09:59 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly?


whatever you want it to mean baby

you tell me what you think of it


I think it doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to post like that. And like immediately out of the gate too. It doesn't really make sense from any other perspective either. But my initial thought is: if you're mafia, your teammates probably are going to be pissed that you did that. So it's much more likely that he's a Town trolling.

I can kinda go down the road of "that's what he wants us to think" but I think that makes things too complicated. So for now I think that makes him town.

But it feels wrong to give somebody town points for coming out of the gate and saying they are scum.

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I think ExO is probably town though.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 19 2015 01:02 GMT
#573
SL dig yourself out son. Show me what you got.
Minimal effort.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 01:03 GMT
#574
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2015 01:03 GMT
#575
yeh sl gimme some quick reads
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 01:03 GMT
#576
On March 19 2015 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:59 ExO_ wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly?


whatever you want it to mean baby

you tell me what you think of it


I think it doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to post like that. And like immediately out of the gate too. It doesn't really make sense from any other perspective either. But my initial thought is: if you're mafia, your teammates probably are going to be pissed that you did that. So it's much more likely that he's a Town trolling.

I can kinda go down the road of "that's what he wants us to think" but I think that makes things too complicated. So for now I think that makes him town.

But it feels wrong to give somebody town points for coming out of the gate and saying they are scum.

[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
I think ExO is probably town though.

yeah i kinda agree
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 01:04 GMT
#577
On March 19 2015 10:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 10:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:59 Superbia wrote:
K. What's the thing on SL? He lied hard about another game or something? Pls enlighten.

he tried to play it off like he didn't know what my godread on rsoultin was about (he does)

but he tried to do so by claiming not to have played games with us (he did)

and then he tried to justify it by saying that he wasn't town and doesn't read games when he's mafia (he was town)


RSO, confirm?


yes, this is so
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 19 2015 01:04 GMT
#578
On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote:
Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5?

This is gonna sound really dumb but I think Superbia and Trfel are never going to be mafia together. This is just not something you repeat as mafia when another mafia's asked it already and especially after I called Superb out on his tone for it.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 19 2015 01:05 GMT
#579
On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!

The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.

Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"

Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel


Some other thoughts:

Batsnacks - I'm okay with bats at the moment. His push on me seemed like the typical "push for info" I expect to see at the start of d1. Leaning town for now.

KelsierSC -
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 09:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Ff is my first town.. Firstly explaining to sentinal about the bh being rng king. And secondly he went back and checked the possible set ups after kush made his pronouncement then he asked kush to explain himself. That is a guy putting in the effort to catch scum.


Was an incredibly weak read at best. Feels more like a pocket or possibly (dare I hope) aligned scum. Scumlean on Kelsier. Townpoints to breshke for pinging him out for it. Also does the exact same thing as FF (see below)

Fecalfeast -
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.

At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.

If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.


Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.

Breshke - This is a different Breshke from what I'm used to (he's way more proactive than before). His questions are spot on and the mindset behind his posts feels very town. The fact that he's more proactive only adds to to the towniness. Top town at the moment.

Elvis! - Elvis made sense and seems to have the same viewpoint as I would have on my post. Leaning town.

Grackaroni - Defends me, and I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hands his arguments are valid and logical, on the other hand, why defend me? Don't feel like the thread was stagnating at that point in time, and there was still information to be gained. Grack, why did you defend me?

Immaterial - Null. Not sure if newbie town or mafai. Sheeps Kelsier, which is horrible. Gets pinged out for faulty logic (which is by extension Kelsier's faulty logic), but keeps his vote on me regardless, which feels a little more like town pressuring than scum sheeping. Would like to see more content from him before I make up my mind (his prose is also pretty decent).

LightningStrike - Leaning mafia. Sheeps the vote for me but doesn't really seem to have a real opinion on the matter. This post screams mafia trying to insert themselves into a push/conversation:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and saw someone thinking as a scum and I can understand a bit because I still a new player on TL mafia. But currently Elvis mainly made really large posts from what I had seen except when he said he will be in a couple of hours after uni and we will need to wait for a response from him. ## Unvote it seem just Superbia made some troll posts and we kind of over reacted to it.



In conclusion: I feel like Sentinel is the most likely hit at the moment, followed by Kelsier and then FF or LightningStrike. At least 2 in those 4.


Need to get opinions/content from the following people:
- Serejai
- Cricketer12
- kushm4sta


Oh ya this epic post it was super angly and It always stuck in my head. but here he just "hard claimed town" so I think I overreacted I dont know why this post came into my head
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 19 2015 01:05 GMT
#580
On March 19 2015 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:59 ExO_ wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly?


whatever you want it to mean baby

you tell me what you think of it


I think it doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to post like that. And like immediately out of the gate too. It doesn't really make sense from any other perspective either. But my initial thought is: if you're mafia, your teammates probably are going to be pissed that you did that. So it's much more likely that he's a Town trolling.

I can kinda go down the road of "that's what he wants us to think" but I think that makes things too complicated. So for now I think that makes him town.

But it feels wrong to give somebody town points for coming out of the gate and saying they are scum.

[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
I think ExO is probably town though.


I get that its wifom, but why even do it? If you're scum it draws attention to you. Sure you'll probably be able to play it off, but who knows how the players will react to it. It seems incredibly risky to do as mafia, and especially stupid to do if you have a town role.

I can only see him doing it as VT. And I still don't agree with it.
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