EPTTL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 25
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On March 25 2015 12:44 Eden1892 wrote: lol what I don't like Superbia at all, I just decided he might respond better to me posing my questions in a slightly less aggressive manner so I toned it down mmmh, I thought you found some hidden gem in that recent post you just compared to a blowjob you're not willing to talk about for some reason. | ||
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Do you still think I'm mafia after Palmar the guy that nonstop pushed me d1, with lots of people mentioning that he wouldn't tell people to bus if he's mafia, flipped red btw? | ||
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Can we lynch superbia after all for voting Artanis? I'd probably still like ritoky lynch the most, I just can't see rayn being town in this game. Palmar flipping red (who would have thought) who hard pushed me through all of d1 only makes rayn more juicy imo because he's done the same thing. | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:06 Onegu wrote: I'm not here, I am not VT. I mean no mafia ever takes that serious. But okay fine, maybe he's not the delicate tool around but why in the world did he get so mad at rsoultin protecting him? If that was the entire point of the fakeclaim, to draw hits, why would he get mad at someone thinking he's about to get shot? That just doesn't add up. And there's just nothing on d1 that makes it look like he ACTUALLY tried to look townish to actually get hit. There was no effort whatsoever, just the cheap fakeclaim no mafia would ever believe and that's it. If he didn't claim to draw hits he's mafia. I think I actually like Onegu the most | ||
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On March 25 2015 20:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also we should still lynch Onegu because I find it unexplainable why after getting a million blueclaims Onegu doesn't go "hey guys I'm not actually mason so you should be able to trust the other claims" when the very fact of all these blueclaims started to worry us. yeah that too. I mean I could totally see him waiting until n1 over, but d2? There was just no way any mafia would shoot Onegu during n2. He could have come clean way sooner. | ||
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Please don't flip mafia | ||
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On March 26 2015 04:58 Trfel wrote: I think that Onegu's mason claiming doesn't say he is town. Imagine if Onegu claimed mason with Holyflare on Day 1, and then Holyflare responded "What? I'm not a mason." That would say nothing at all about Onegu's alignment. So, Onegu's mason claim with Holyflare has no downside. And Onegu has two potential positives for doing this. If Holyflare accepts, Onegu gets a free pass through Day 1 and Night 1. And regardless of what Holyflare does, Onegu shows that he is willing to fake-claim mason, thereby giving him an out from all mason claims he makes for the rest of the game. Then Onegu claimed mason with raynpelikoneet. Regardless of raynpelikoneet's alignment, I think this is a poor move for town here. Rereading Onegu's filter in this section, he seems very determined in this statement. And he provided a false breadcrumb. He is much more determined about this mason claim than he was with his previous mason claim with Holyflare. His explanation for this is that he was certain of raynpelikoneet being town, and was defending him in this way. If he is this certain of raynpelikoneet being town, then he ought to explain this read, instead of just claiming mason. And Onegu I don't think Onegu ever explains this read. Basically, this is a bad play for town, as it provides false information. I also note that Onegu said he hadn't read over half the game, so how is he sure enough in his townread of raynpelikoneet that he claimed in such a convincing manner, while most people were very suspicious of raynpelikoneet at this time? Since then, Onegu rescinded his mason claim. I don't recall Onegu doing much else of note. My conclusion is that Onegu is scum here. I don't see why his play has any benefit for town, and claiming mason is a very low-risk play for scum. Ignoring his claims, Onegu hasn't done very much. I'm scumreading Onegu right now regardless of raynpelikoneet/ritoky's alignment, but I think there's a good chance that they are scum together. this one needs more attention because it's damn right. That being said 5:20 am and I'm slowly getting my brainpower started. Someone want to explain to me why we're not lynching between Onegu/Slam anymore and it's moved on to FF? @the above science: Except for some single cases where it's just too extreme to make sense for them to be mafia I don't really like post-count analysis for this game. It's a big game already thus by the very nature of that people WILL have more than average postcounts or otherwise it would not have become such a big game... so unless it's Vivax / Artanis I honestly couldn't care less about that. | ||
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On March 26 2015 13:32 Eden1892 wrote: ._. the formula explicitly adjusts for big games actually it does but only one way if I understood it correctly? I could see people giving up hope after logging into TL and seeing they have to read 100 new pages, as both alignments  | ||
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On March 26 2015 13:40 Toadesstern wrote: actually it does but only one way if I understood it correctly? I could see people giving up hope after logging into TL and seeing they have to read 100 new pages, as both alignments oh what I meant with "big" isn't amount of players, but rather even for the amount of players it's an abomination with way too much to read. | ||
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I agree Vivax is 99% likely to be town at this point and he's not doing it on purpose but that seems to be the strategy for mafia here. Maybe get 1 ML out of that list of 5, make people paranoid. Get a mafia lynched next day and maybe the 2nd ML after that and suddenly we have weird theories floating all around about how Artanis/damd have to be mafia and it gets scary. | ||
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On March 26 2015 16:34 Vivax wrote: Only one I can think of is super? I think Trfel also mentioned Artanis, besides, arguments have been presented so it's not just paranoia. I feel like Artanis was pretty much in line with scum agenda whenever I scumread a scum, he'd either waffle on it or have another opinion (See his LS read against mine and how it changes when he talks with FF about it or when I bring up Palmar at night). Be back later. is there a case against him or a summary of what people don't like that isn't from superbia? Because I saw that and just straight up didn't read it because I want to lynch superbia anyways and think it's from mafia. I'm not saying people are trying to get him lynched today, I'm saying people (superbia) are trying to get that into peoples minds for maybe day 4 or 5 and see how likely that's going to happen. I mean we had that moment where we posted within 60 seconds of each other during d2 when we tried to finalize that poe list and his list was EXACTLY the same as mine. Mafias usually come to slightly different reads for a reason. They have tmi and think someone is "obviously town" or "obviously mafia" for some reason when it's clearly not obvious to anyone that doesn't have that information. Same thing can be seen with hosts and co-hosts in post-game talk. There was NOTHING of the sort. | ||
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On March 26 2015 22:37 sicklucker wrote: Rstoulin might have been rbed last night because mafia took out both are roles and didnt try to medic dodge. Infact she had to have been . what he was saying: "what if Vivax didn't get roleblocked n1 because Toad shot VE. Meanwhile they used their real RB (Vivax) on someone else and Vivax just fakeclaimed the whole thing and they actually roleblocked someone entirely different n1, a blueread they had" Possible in theory, but highly unlikely with Vivax activity | ||
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On March 26 2015 22:40 Superbia wrote: So what have you been doing this game? How are you so active yet you have not been analyzing the alignment of people deemed scummy? There are people who just trust their PoE more than their scumreads. I'm another one of those guys. I've not actually done that much scumhunting besides my case on Palmar/Artanis/Vivax d1 and mini-cases on a couple guys here and there because I'm a lot more confident in my ability to figure out town and go on from there. Artanis already said it's the same for him. | ||
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FF and superbia seem to be the only viable options right now? | ||
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