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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:49 GMT
#6110
as in, why would RB on vivax have any implication about wether or not someone gets shot?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:55 GMT
#6118
On March 25 2015 06:52 ritoky wrote:
i am super confused by what superbia is talking about. can someone try to make sense of this for me, or tell me if i am wrong.

he says the play he would make as mafia if 2 vigis were real and claimed, the play would be shoot 1 vigi @ night to setup the ML on the other; thus since it didn't happen that way 1 of the vigis is mafia? is that correct?

in a game with this many claims out in the open, why do you think the mafia would place vigi as such a high priority? especially when 1 has claimed to use their shot.


it makes no sense, as already pointed out:
On March 25 2015 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.


why would you should either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched...

think about it this way:
Day 1: BM lynch
Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on Vivax
Day 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toad

sounds a lot better than what you're saying

would be the play for mafia if both vigs are town and from all I'm seeing that's exactly what they were looking at.

We got Palmar, who for the entirety of D1 read me as scum suddenly switched over during EoD to ensure a lynch on BM instead of a lynch on any of the two vigs...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 21:57 GMT
#6120
*should = shoot lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:06 GMT
#6134
explain to me why 4 shown dead people makes it more likely for there to be a mafia vig...
explain to me why you consider that it the less "obvious" plan than
On March 25 2015 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Like this is all rather guessing where the mafia's wine is, but if I was mafia, and both were town, I would've probably shot Vivax after that d1, especially if you can set up the wagons well.


why would you [shoot] either Vivax or me when you can get us lynched...

think about it this way:
Day 1: BM lynch
Day 2: lynch between Vivax or Toad, let's say it's on Vivax
Day 3: "Oh hey, Vivax flipped green!", lynch on Toad

sounds a lot better than what you're saying


I'd count "not roleblocking Vivax when he's about to shoot town" (which is your entire point, what if slam is town) as the obvious thing to do for mafia and yet you say that is toally fine but for mafia to hope for a repeat of d1 is too obvious for them to do?

What are you even on about
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:10 GMT
#6140
On March 25 2015 07:09 Superbia wrote:
Like I am showing, with math, why it is the correct play for mafia to let both vigi KP go through if it's both on town. You get a possible d3 mylo with 2 huge question marks (vigis), which you will just leave alive for the rest of the game. SO EASY.

your entire point was that I'm mafia because mafia did not shoot into the vigs during n1...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:16 GMT
#6146
KP is always nice for mafia but in the end a lynch on a townie is even better because that's effectively double the kills because you get the ML as well as a free night period (= more than just one failed vigshot) that you just got because of the ML. So keeping questionmarks alive for confusion is actually a thing, yeah
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:20 GMT
#6156
On March 25 2015 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Like this should be mafia's perspective if slam is town and both vigis are real.

Town is calling for a shot on VE and slam. Both toad and vivax seem to comply.

What does mafia have to lose by not RBing and letting both shots go through?

I've explained what mafia has to gain, possible d3 mylo and 2 big question marks for misslynches.


I did not comply in the slightest wtf.
I raged pretty hard at HF because I thought the plan was retarded and didn't know who I was shooting until after it happened and I got confirmation on it... and you think mafia had an idea who I was shooting?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:24 GMT
#6165
On March 25 2015 07:23 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 07:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 25 2015 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Like this should be mafia's perspective if slam is town and both vigis are real.

Town is calling for a shot on VE and slam. Both toad and vivax seem to comply.

What does mafia have to lose by not RBing and letting both shots go through?

I've explained what mafia has to gain, possible d3 mylo and 2 big question marks for misslynches.


I did not comply in the slightest wtf.
I raged pretty hard at HF because I thought the plan was retarded and didn't know who I was shooting until after it happened and I got confirmation on it... and you think mafia had an idea who I was shooting?


I thought it was pretty clear at EoN1? I recall you fighting HF on this during N1, but you seemed to be okayish with it EoN1. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong?


On March 22 2015 06:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 06:23 Eden1892 wrote:
decent logic on exo there.

vivax who you shootin bruh? slam yeah?

toad who you shootin bruh? ve yeah?

I am not going to shoot VE. VE is town imo

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:25 GMT
#6169
On March 22 2015 06:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Okay Eden you're the only one I'm trusting right now. I'm not going to shoot VE. Period. Take that as me being serious.
Do I shoot Onegu or do I listen to people?

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:27 GMT
#6171
the whole point that not even I knew who I was about to shoot shows that they were not clear at all...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:27 GMT
#6173
On March 22 2015 08:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2015 08:09 Vivax wrote:
On March 22 2015 08:06 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 21 2015 08:05 Half the Sky wrote:

Please forward all night actions to Blazinghand and myself at least 20 minutes prior to the daypost.


I did not get to change my shot... I shot VE


Why would you have wanted to change your shot, and what would have the real target been?


I was on Vivax -> Slam -> VE -> (Slam -> VE -> Slam)

in brackets what didn't count anymore. I said I'm not going to shoot VE and do my thing (shoot Vivax) got mad at HF, took a break for 5-10 minutes and in the end listened to Eden telling me to shoot VE despite my weak townread on him.

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:31 GMT
#6178
On March 25 2015 07:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just went back to check and yeah I started going for the both shoot slam at :45. Someone phone Vivax!

yeah I remember that one because, looking at the time I said something along the lines of "eeeeh, it's not really about wether or not I'm willing to do it but about wether or not it's possible..."
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 22:59 GMT
#6235
Is this where I claim Onegu mason partner as well as being Vig and 3rd party eternal dragon slumbering in the dephts of some ancient mountain?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 23:49 GMT
#6336
I'm back, just had to make a 10k post. What did I miss
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 23:54 GMT
#6346
On March 25 2015 08:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 08:49 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm back, just had to make a 10k post. What did I miss

SL(?) shot Palmar with orb whom flipped scum. Vivax still tunneling me. We're wifoming over what roles scum could have to balance the game. Basically everything is as it was other than that we're closer to winning.


who mentioned that Palmar has been pushing me through all of D1 and tried to get me lynched over Vivax/BM d1 during EoD only to get a last second switch to BM when he had to?

Give that man a cooky
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 24 2015 23:57 GMT
#6354
I'm not his mason buddy either, obviously
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 25 2015 00:08 GMT
#6357
let's just all take a step back and look at that glorious case here:

On March 19 2015 13:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:49 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:44 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, I meant, what implications do you think this has on Holyflare's alignment? (and maybe if it says anything about those who voted Alakaslam with him)

not sure yet. People can be wrong, that includes HF saying he's mafia and me saying he's unreadable that early in the game. Could be anything so far.
HF pointing out that I play different is somewhat townish because as people pointed out I indeed am playing differentish (I guess) and I don't think a lot of people would actually doublecheck that so he's forgiven for that unlike Palmar who's doing it on purpose.


Toad, you've been on this a lot. What makes you think that it makes Palmar mafia?

Actually I'm back to lynching Palmar but good that you ask, I was about to explain it once more in more detail anyways:

  1. Look at Hammertime and look at Palmars filter. I'm not asking you to read the game, just ctrl-f "Toad" in Palmars filter. Nothing else: Palmars Filter
    Please do it, that takes 5 minutes. No reading, just ctrl-f and going through some of the posts is already enough.

  2. Realize that the reasoning for Palmar scumreading me in that game, when I was town was "idk, something's odd. I forgot what"
  3. Realize my first post in JoaT was:
    On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
    Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.

    Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game
    my first post in here was
    On March 19 2015 08:18 Toadesstern wrote:
    sup guyses

    For not for I have rolled town and I will lead us to glorious days of dancing under rainbows while lynching all of mafia. Gone are the days when I just showed that I'm blatantly town to everyone and lose nontheless because I trusted people that want to get attention.

    For that I ask you to vote to become your mayor so we can slay all of mafia. The position of my personal sheriff is still open and I shall announce the guy or girl that gets that position soon!
    compare them for a second
  4. Look at Palmar and what he says about me this game and why I'm supposedly mafia:
    On March 19 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote:
    I actually kinda sorta maybe believe my reasons for voting Toad. Both of the things I said are true.

    #1 "guyses" is not a word any viable human being utters in a normal sentence.
    #2 He is half-assedly copying what was a much cooler play when he was town

    On March 19 2015 08:29 Palmar wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On March 19 2015 08:27 Toadesstern wrote:
    On March 19 2015 08:22 Palmar wrote:
    Also I think Toad tried to get elected as a mayor (in a no election game) last time too, so technically he's maybe imitating his town game.

    I've basicly copy & pasted that post as I've done in my last.... 5 or so games in a row, both as mafia as well as town. So why don't you go ahead and explain a little more in detail about what you think rather than just killing me for "I don't know, I forgot what I don't like about toad but he's mafia" like you did last time?

    You used colors and formatting and didn't type "guyses" last time. In hindsight that was far more townie than this.


The chances of Palmar getting in here and saying that, without checking after what happened to him and me in Hammertime when we both were town are literally 0% if he is town and wasn't just trolling or trying to get reactions.

HF and everyone else whatever but Palmar would not just post that without at least giving one second of a thought about it and doublechecking after singlehandedly ruining a game because of a "Toad feels weird" read he did recently. No way. Not possible.

Palmar is mafia
##vote Palmar


told ya bitches

+ Show Spoiler +
sorry but I said I would
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 25 2015 00:26 GMT
#6367
On March 25 2015 09:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 09:19 Damdred wrote:
Vivax do you think Scum would rb you from killing Scum slam? How did LS and Palmar interact with slam?


Palmar didn't read slam at all from what I saw ona quick review, however he handed out TRs to Artanis and LS and his choir was to kill rayn and Toad during D1.

rayn also wanted to kill me
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 25 2015 03:39 GMT
#6438
he wants to be on #TeamVivax
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 25 2015 03:43 GMT
#6441
So I'm basicly still where I was a couple hours ago. Ritoky is certainly an option for today simply based on rayn even if he does look better than rayn, but that's not really that much of an accomplishment.

There's straight up no reason to not lynch Alakaslam.

Superbia I'm very wary but Eden apparently likes him for some reason... so maybe not today.

Slam it is?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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