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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 22 2015 23:29 GMT
#5076
On March 23 2015 08:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:
i won't

i'll give vivax his due respect by not clogging the thread with investigating leads i don't think will find scum

gosh thanks, instead you you sit back giggling while I'm treading through hell that is having to deal with it


your responses were townie and helped with any niggling doubts?

plus they did finally get viva off your back so...win/win? lol

if only this would last longer than 12 hours

[image loading]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 22 2015 23:31 GMT
#5080
On March 23 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Could always shennany on Rayn and hope he's the rb so viv can shoot LS XD trololol

LS could already be the RB.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 22 2015 23:33 GMT
#5082
On March 23 2015 08:31 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:24 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:
i won't

i'll give vivax his due respect by not clogging the thread with investigating leads i don't think will find scum

gosh thanks, instead you you sit back giggling while I'm treading through hell that is having to deal with it


your responses were townie and helped with any niggling doubts?

plus they did finally get viva off your back so...win/win? lol

if only this would last longer than 12 hours

[image loading]

I was about to ask to get shot during night but with all the cop claims and whatnot that seems pretty unlikely atm... I'm legit scared of mafia trying to put me in any kind of lylo that involves vivax and me, on purpose.

I don't want to antagonize Vivax further than I already have, but asking to get shot is never a good idea because shooting mafia prevents lylo from ever happening in the first place. That seems like a better idea than betting on Vivax being right at lylo by shooting the townies he suspects.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#5084
I formulated the post above horribly.
What I meant to say whilst rabid foam was erupting from my mouth was that it's better to shoot at mafia than at townies, even if said townies are being scumread by Vivax.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#5085
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:12 GMT
#5090
On March 23 2015 09:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.

bitch please i was n1'd in my first newbie game while the doc was knowingly rb'd

I was giving you a backhanded compliment, take it or leave it.

So..
On March 22 2015 21:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can we start by ticking off the people who are clearly town and the reasons for them just to make sure we're not missing anything?
Vivax - Confirmed town by virtue of 21 pages of posting in a short amount of time, tryharding even after he didn't need to anymore to get off a shot, and working to solve the game.
Rsoultin - Confirmed town by virtue of 26 fucking pages of filter as well as Eden's rock hard... townread on her.
Toadesstern - Confirmed town by virtue of counterclaiming vig in a situation where it makes no sense for scum to do so, actively, strongly and genuinely pushing the initial claim, and afterwards coming to the realization that his push was probably town and work towards solving the game.
FecalFeast - Went after SL without trying to bury him. Has been trying to figure the game out, made a strong and detailed case against LS.
Trfel - Can't be scum with Superbia who looks pretty scummy already, plus checked LS with the orb which caused him to concede.
Artanis[Xp] - Making lots of observations that are difficult to make as scum, 20 pages, very fluid reads.
Damdred - Wall of texts in the kind that he only makes as town. Have never seen him make anything even remotely similar as scum.
Eden1892 - Has been actively trying to solve the game and seems to be even more motivated with the current turn of events. Generally being a town hero the past night.

Anything you don't find very convincing here?


Taking
ExO_ I can't possibly see as mafia on further reflection. Let's look at what we have to assume for this to be true:
- ExO_ seeded being the cop in several posts prior to claiming
- ExO_ fakeclaimed cop with a green check on someone then argued the target was the godfather instead of just claiming a red check
- ExO_ didn't bother to look at the role he was fakeclaiming to see whether it was an alignment cop or role cop
- ExO_ brought the argument to rsoultin when he wasn't directly under pressure at the time, putting himself in the hot seat just to try to maybe get a jailer claim mislynched

Does that sound like anything resembling a good plan to anybody? How about instead ExO_ is the real cop, didn't realize he was only an alignment cop due to getting a check that used the same name as a specific role, and claimed to force someone he thought was fakeclaiming to explain themselves? Yeah Eden that makes a lot more sense.
into consideration from Eden and adding him to the list, is there anyone on the list that you disagree with Eden?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:14 GMT
#5091
We'd have eliminated 9/16 players from being scum. If Onegu is confirmed mason with a partner that isn't inside that team we'd actually be at 11/16 and the rest would be PoE.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:14 GMT
#5093
Oh no wait there's 17 players, I just forgot since on my spreadsheet I'm already the confirmed town green.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:17 GMT
#5096
On March 23 2015 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Yes for example LS was tracked to hf not to vivax. If he is the rb how did vivax not shoot?

Good point. I have a theory that's better not to explain until post night though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:32 GMT
#5104
I want to lynch Palmar on D3 though because he gets active when he's about to get lynched as town, and that should solve the game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:39 GMT
#5112
On March 23 2015 09:35 Toadesstern wrote:
I am actually about 190% certain onegu is no mason and I've already said so 3 times.

The question about Onegu is wether or not he did it to draw shots or to fakeclaim to not get lynched as lurker wh does nothing.
You can make an argument that he's more likely to be town because Rayn said he's not mason with Onegu. Would mafia!rayn just go along and claim mason, happy about suddenly being townread by everyone and their mom?

We literally had him as orange / heavy red before the mason claim, about to lynch him, Onegu claims Rayn is his buddy and suddenly everyone is townreading Rayn. And that made sense.
But this just doesn't seem coordinated between Onegu and Rayn at all... unless this is some crappy wifom "look I wouldn't do this as mafia" but that's pretty convoluted.
Pretty sure they're just not mafia together

Actually, the benefit to Rayn responding in this fashion is that Onegu and Rayn's fates are no longer intertwined. It's one of the greatest distancing tactics possible. Had Rayn confirmed that Onegu was his mason buddy and one of them flipped, the other would be guaranteed screwed.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:41 GMT
#5115
However that it's a good tactic doesn't mean they'd actually use it so you're still probably right.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:42 GMT
#5117
On March 23 2015 09:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 09:37 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm actually pretty damn confident in my analysis that Onegu and Rayn can't be mafia together

i'm cool with it

man how fucking awesome would it be if sicklucker is actually onegu's masonbro?

1 time
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 00:43 GMT
#5118
I'm actually of the belief that Mafia has pretty much given up on the game and that everyone currently posting is town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 11:25 GMT
#5348
Good morning. Reminder that we have a lot of confirmed towns and that you shouldn't listen to conspiracy theories.
Vivax - Confirmed town by virtue of 21 pages of posting in a short amount of time, tryharding even after he didn't need to anymore to get off a shot, and working to solve the game.
Rsoultin - Confirmed town by virtue of 26 fucking pages of filter as well as Eden's rock hard... townread on her.
Toadesstern - Confirmed town by virtue of counterclaiming vig in a situation where it makes no sense for scum to do so, actively, strongly and genuinely pushing the initial claim, and afterwards coming to the realization that his push was probably town and work towards solving the game.
FecalFeast - Went after SL without trying to bury him. Has been trying to figure the game out, made a strong and detailed case against LS.
Trfel - Can't be scum with Superbia who looks pretty scummy already, plus checked LS with the orb which caused him to concede.
Artanis[Xp] - Making lots of observations that are difficult to make as scum, 20 pages, very fluid reads.
Damdred - Wall of texts in the kind that he only makes as town. Have never seen him make anything even remotely similar as scum.
Eden1892 - Has been actively trying to solve the game and seems to be even more motivated with the current turn of events. Generally being a town hero the past night.
ExO_ - Claimed Cop, had been softing it before, and did it in such a messy way that it's super unlikely to be scum.

Also reminder that we should lynch Palmar D3 until he starts playing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 12:21 GMT
#5351
Guys, I have a feeling LS is getting bussed. There's 15 votes on him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 13:20 GMT
#5356
I'm surprised at the lack of shouty rayn in this thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 13:24 GMT
#5358
On March 23 2015 22:22 Damdred wrote:
i'm really not and that was meh to read

[image loading]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 13:27 GMT
#5360
On March 23 2015 22:26 Vivax wrote:
I have a secret about Artanis id like to share.

It's not a secret that I'm town bb, only to you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 23 2015 13:30 GMT
#5363
Vivax, I didn't really want to learn that your wet dreams consist of redchecking me but it all makes so much sense now.
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