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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 22:41 GMT
#7399
On March 27 2015 07:40 Superbia wrote:
I really want to hit scum here and confirm myself in the split vote. Halp.
Alakaslam could be town because he has been far more determined in this game than I am used to him being as scum. He has a clear thought process, even if I disagree with some of the conclusions he reaches.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 22:52 GMT
#7421
If Alakaslam flips scum I apologize for doubting for so long.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 22:55 GMT
#7427
Pretty sure Alakaslam flips scum here by the Law of Trfel: "Trfel is always wrong."
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 22:56 GMT
#7432
On March 27 2015 07:55 Onegu wrote:
What is the vote count?
It's seven to four.

Don't worry, you're safe for today.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 22:57 GMT
#7433
On March 27 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 07:55 Trfel wrote:
Pretty sure Alakaslam flips scum here by the Law of Trfel: "Trfel is always wrong."

Who's your strongest townread? Maybe we should lynch that person next.
Byebye sicklucker.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:05 GMT
#7441
Point made?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:06 GMT
#7443
Sorry Alakaslam, I tried my best.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:07 GMT
#7449
Also, it seems that I have at least a small clue of what I'm talking about.

I wouldn't mind people listening to me once in a while.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:20 GMT
#7461
On March 27 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
9 town vs 3 scum.

It looks pretty dire for them, I think they only have 1 KP from now on.
I think scum is in a pretty good spot.

The positive atmosphere has collapsed. Town really doesn't know what to do.

It would be great if the orb saved us again. At this point, a rolecheck would be extremely useful, as scum probably has two or three mafia power roles. If the rolecheck gives a non-vanilla answer, it's effectively as good as a red check.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:23 GMT
#7464
On March 27 2015 08:18 Vivax wrote:
Tomorrow I'd like to proceed with Fecal provided I'm still alive being quite universally townread but feel free to post your wishes.
Vivax, please don't eat me alive for saying this....

People are stupid. And they don't always agree. But that doesn't mean that emphatically insisting that they are stupid will solve the problem, as stupidity is extremely hard to fix (I know this from personal experience). I think that town would benefit if you toned it down a little bit.

I also note that Fecalfeast was roleblocked by rsoultin. This means that Fecalfeast wasn't carrying KP. With two KP and four scum left, Fecalfeast would be a pretty good choice to carry KP. And this is a fair argument in his favor.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:51 GMT
#7495
No, I have the orb!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:53 GMT
#7498
Also, sorry about the roleblock confusion. You guys are correct.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 23:57 GMT
#7502
On March 27 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 08:53 Trfel wrote:
Also, sorry about the roleblock confusion. You guys are correct.


What's the mistake you made?
Rsoultin's jailkeep on Fecalfeast doesn't prevent Fecalfeast from carrying KP. I thought that it did.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:00 GMT
#7506
On March 27 2015 08:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:53 Trfel wrote:
Also, sorry about the roleblock confusion. You guys are correct.


What's the mistake you made?
Rsoultin's jailkeep on Fecalfeast doesn't prevent Fecalfeast from carrying KP. I thought that it did.



Show nested quote +
Scum KP as follows:
Days 1 and 2: 2 KP
Day 3 and after: 1 KP
Delivered by individuals, and subject to RB/track rules.
It's safe to assume that rsoultin was roleblocked. Especially seeing that sicklucker was not.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:01 GMT
#7507
On March 27 2015 09:00 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:53 Trfel wrote:
Also, sorry about the roleblock confusion. You guys are correct.


What's the mistake you made?
Rsoultin's jailkeep on Fecalfeast doesn't prevent Fecalfeast from carrying KP. I thought that it did.



Wait jk doesn't prevent KP then I'm confirmed town
Sorry, I'm working under the assumption that rsoultin was roleblocked.

This wasn't true when you were jailkeeped (jailkept?).

However, this seems like a rather townie post. Maybe I'm wrong on you.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:07 GMT
#7510
On March 27 2015 09:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
On March 27 2015 08:53 Trfel wrote:
Also, sorry about the roleblock confusion. You guys are correct.


What's the mistake you made?
Rsoultin's jailkeep on Fecalfeast doesn't prevent Fecalfeast from carrying KP. I thought that it did.


You are wrong had to check OP you naughty guy
No, I'm right, as I already explained.

Rsoultin was roleblocked. Thus, the roleblocks cancel, and the KP goes through.

In your case, it blocks KP, because rsoultin wasn't roleblocked (or at least, it's basically guaranteed that she wasn't).
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:37 GMT
#7511
Let's assume that Fecalfeast is mafia. This means that his case on LightningStrike was a bus.

The argument for Fecalfeast being mafia is that his case reeks of too much information, and is caused by LightningStrike's desire to not play the game any more. Therefore, the majority of the mafia team would join in on this bus.

On March 20 2015 05:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote
##vote lightningstrike
This is one minute after Fecalfeast posted his case.
On March 20 2015 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
This is the next vote on LightningStrike. Nearly 18 hours later.
On March 21 2015 03:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1: Current Vote Count

Vivax (5): Holyflare, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): Toadesstern, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, Artanis[Xp], raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): Fecalfeast, Onegu, Bill Murray, ExO
Damdred (0): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp]
Superbia (0): Eden1892
VisceraEyes (0): Artanis[Xp]
Alakaslam (0): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892
ExO_ (0): Eden1892
Palmar (0): Toadesstern, Toadesstern, Bill Murray
Trfel (0): Artanis, Superbia, Eden1892
Holyflare (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting (1): Trfel

Currently, Vivax [blue]is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
And here's a vote count. It doesn't appear to me that mafia is bussing LightningStrike here at all (unless of course Vivax is scum...).

Raynpelikoneet does show immediate support. Eventually, Eden follows on. I note that Palmar townreads LightningStrike, even after this.

While it's possible that Fecalfeast actually is bussing LightningStrike here, but there is no motivation for him to do this as scum at all. If it's truly a planned bus attempt, it doesn't get the support that I would expect. Therefore, I think it's much more likely that Fecalfeast is town here.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:44 GMT
#7513
On March 27 2015 09:44 Vivax wrote:
9 3
7 3
5 3 - > mylo, no lynch pls
4 3

Still 2 mislynches and 1 no lynch left so it isn't looking bad at all, just try to keep the activity up when the pacemaker townies get NKd and scum should start losing stamina, besides they will have inreasing trouble keeping their story consistent with earlier posts, so try to bank on that.
What about town losing stamina?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:47 GMT
#7515
On March 27 2015 09:44 Vivax wrote:
9 3
7 3
5 3 - > mylo, no lynch pls
4 3

Still 2 mislynches and 1 no lynch left so it isn't looking bad at all, just try to keep the activity up when the pacemaker townies get NKd and scum should start losing stamina, besides they will have inreasing trouble keeping their story consistent with earlier posts, so try to bank on that.
Well hm, you're wrong on two points.

It's currently 9 vs 3. But it's night.
8 vs 3
6 vs 3
4 vs 3

So don't hit MYLO, and can't no lynch. However, no lynching is disallowed anyway.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 27 2015 00:48 GMT
#7516
Vivax, what do you think of my voting analysis? I think it indicates that LightningStrike wasn't bussed, and therefore Fecalfeast was town.

It also makes no sense that scum would decide to bus LightningStrike and then retract the bus after the claimfest (unless you think that I am scum).

Or are you saying that the LightningStrike case wasn't a bus, but just a fake push?
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