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why would ExO claim a green on rso...
I guess he could be desperate trying to get everything out when we were talking about lynching him earlier but he could have just waited until after the lynch to get another check in? This makes no sense at all... but it's understandable to be in panic in his case I guess
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On March 23 2015 04:19 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 04:17 Toadesstern wrote:On March 23 2015 04:16 Vivax wrote: Besides saying everyone was scumreading rayn is serious bs Toad. Both VE and HF TRd him. just no Read the game???? Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 05:36 rsoultin wrote: rayn may be an exception
but solely because it would look fucking odd for him to scream KILL TOAD KILL TOAD
then hammer viva lol >< Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote: he could have just afk'd on toad and vivax would still die the first is a quote from rsoultin
the second one is not in the slightest reading rayn as town, it's just going through different scenarios. He even said Palmar and rayn look really scummy for that last second switch when it happened...
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he also agreed on my points on rayn. Never took that back
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On March 23 2015 04:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote: he could have just afk'd on toad and vivax would still die in fact i'm almost certain he'd rather do that as mafia Oh really? Guess it sucks when you don't read the game cause this is the post right after. that is nothing at all. He's just thinking things through for a second without comming to a conclusion.
The last thing that he mentioned towards rayn that IS alignment indicative is:
On March 21 2015 21:04 Holyflare wrote: unfortunately still super wary of rayn everything else after that is just talk about Artanis and how he's supposedly mafia for reading Rayn the wrong way, which does not say anything about him agreein with the conclusion, just that he disagrees with the way Artanis did it.
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On March 23 2015 04:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 04:20 Toadesstern wrote: why would ExO claim a green on rso...
I guess he could be desperate trying to get everything out when we were talking about lynching him earlier but he could have just waited until after the lynch to get another check in? This makes no sense at all... but it's understandable to be in panic in his case I guess exo thought the check meant i was VT...or he made up the check, but that seems...weird given the timing and the way he approached it oh right, he did mention people lying yesterday. That actually makes sense
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On March 23 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote: Toad has such an incomplete view of the game that everybody's alarm bells should be ringing. People who give a shit play the game, people who don't, don't.
ExO thought he spotted a liar when he got back the result, so he claimed. There's nothing desperate about that play, it's just a guy who thinks he caught scum and then fucks up cause he didn't read his role properly. That's not a mistake likely to happen to mafia as then that claim should have led to somewhere for his team, and I don't believe an entire scum team to make the mistake of thinking town can have a rolecop. calm down for a second. That's exatly what I just said one I was told about the details....
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On March 23 2015 04:32 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 04:30 Vivax wrote: Toad has such an incomplete view of the game that everybody's alarm bells should be ringing. People who give a shit play the game, people who don't, don't.
ExO thought he spotted a liar when he got back the result, so he claimed. There's nothing desperate about that play, it's just a guy who thinks he caught scum and then fucks up cause he didn't read his role properly. That's not a mistake likely to happen to mafia as then that claim should have led to somewhere for his team, and I don't believe an entire scum team to make the mistake of thinking town can have a rolecop. calm down for a second. That's exatly what I just said one I was told about the details.... in fact you should be townreading me for comming to the same conclusion just now and remembering that I hed mention liars before claiming but you don't because you're on pants-on-head mode
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On March 23 2015 04:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 04:29 Toadesstern wrote:On March 23 2015 04:24 Vivax wrote:On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote: he could have just afk'd on toad and vivax would still die in fact i'm almost certain he'd rather do that as mafia Oh really? Guess it sucks when you don't read the game cause this is the post right after. that is nothing at all. He's just thinking things through for a second without comming to a conclusion. The last thing that he mentioned towards rayn that IS alignment indicative is: On March 21 2015 21:04 Holyflare wrote: unfortunately still super wary of rayn everything else after that is just talk about Artanis and how he's supposedly mafia for reading Rayn the wrong way, which does not say anything about him agreein with the conclusion, just that he disagrees with the way Artanis did it. So you're telling me that when rsoultin suggests scum rayn and HF replies "but he'd just let vivax die as mafia" that doesn't imply he's reading him as town? From what time is the super wary post? Pre- or post-bm-lynch? First: Yes. He's just talking about different things that don't fit together yet without comming to a conclusion. Again, you're thinking that if someone says something about someone that's got t0 be 100% true no matter what when in fact people should have all kinds of different reads that get in the way with each other at times. That's where you figure out what's going on. You're completly ignoring that
Second: Page 176, post BM flip
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could it be that the mighty Vivax acknowledges that people don't form reads in 100% white and black and that it's always a mixture of things that make someone look scummy as well as things that make people look townish and you just take whatever is the most likely explanation? Thus stating that there are reason to mafia or townread someone does not mean that someone is mafia or townreading all the time?
Naaaaah, he's going to keep on pants-on-Heading me
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On March 23 2015 04:42 Vivax wrote: Toad, what's your exact role name? are you trying to get me modkilled now?
I'm not allowed to quote anything I've got from any host pm's, including any questions I might have asked her/them during the game as well as my rolepm. And you should stop that as well if you don't want to get modkilled yourself.
I can quote the OP for you though:
Drax the Destroyer
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On March 23 2015 04:44 Vivax wrote: I'm really stupid for not thinking about asking this earlier.
no, you are following the rules for not asking that....
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6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
Talking about the specific phrasing of pm's from host as well is a reason for not only an insta modkill but for a ban. I just requested one in JOAT for someone who did that just. I'll leave it at that
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On March 23 2015 04:53 Vivax wrote: Hm, saying just the role name isn't an offense. The exact phrasing and every piece of it would be. Anyway that really led to nowhere. I got curious after seeing your CC during the reread.
well the way I see it saying just the rolename as well is an offense if I quote it from my PM.
Say there's a typo in there that's not in the OP. That would be confirming me by quoting my PM despite "only" saying my name. Sorry I am not going there
And I'm pretty sure you just wanted me to quote the entire thing...
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On March 23 2015 04:59 Vivax wrote:It's a pretty grey area. You can't post the entire PM but the role name. So w/e. Time for some EoD observations: Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:09 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is easy: Toadesstern LightningStrike Artanis Superbia rsoultin at least one of those are wrong xP and i strongly suspect two Super odd post.
say why. I have an idea what you're getting at but I want to hear it. Not just "super odd"
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On March 23 2015 05:08 Vivax wrote: Will be posting again when I see rayn posting, don't want to claim the entire D2 for myself. meh :/
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On March 23 2015 05:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 05:10 Toadesstern wrote:On March 23 2015 04:59 Vivax wrote:It's a pretty grey area. You can't post the entire PM but the role name. So w/e. Time for some EoD observations: On March 21 2015 05:09 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is easy: Toadesstern LightningStrike Artanis Superbia rsoultin at least one of those are wrong xP and i strongly suspect two Super odd post. say why. I have an idea what you're getting at but I want to hear it. Not just "super odd" Still here. For one I don't remember rsoultin agreeing on any of these reads during D1. I mostly remember her claiming to be unsure about me and rayn. Then it's a post from her biggest scumread at the time. Then she doesn't specify who rayn is right on and who not. So it leaves me with a lot of questions.
well the one rayn is wrong about is obviously rsoultin according to her... because that's herself
I find it mostly odd that she's only naming 2 people wrong on that list. At that point in time (I assume you took it from shortly after the lynch because you mentioned checking that?). Like I said first one is herself, but she was willing to lynch you over me, easily at that point had it been between you and me and she said so repeatedly. Mostly because CC on mafia makes no sense. So I've got to be the 2nd one that's wrong according to her.... I think
But I the wording is a little bit off. If she considers rayn to be mafia she should probably consider more than just that.
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but honestly I'm fine with that. Could be her just joking around being lighthearted and all
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On March 23 2015 05:16 rsoultin wrote: care to ask or just call it odd? lol did you already townread Artanis at that point?
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Vviax question:
On March 21 2015 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax shoot Toad i track him, we confirm him as mafia even if you are roleblocked. On March 21 2015 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:yes i claim tracker toad and vivax claim vigi. toad is mafia, me and vivax are town. now push toad.
We can all agree Rayn had me down as 100% cofirmed mafia in rayn-world.
Why did he packpedal into saying he'll track Toad OR Vivax On March 21 2015 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: vivax shoots toad toad shoots vivax i track one of them
if mafia roleblocks the real vigi we lynch the other one (mafia will prolly kill the real vigi anyways, and the fake vigi will deliver). If mafia roleblocks me and the real vigi dies, the fake vigi dies aswell.
profit 100% <3 get rekt toad. medic protect vivax please. when I he was so sure I was mafia?
Wouldn't a tracker try to track mafia?
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