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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:29 GMT
#6527
Oh ya we wouldnt have gotten a check but a it would have kept are cop alive
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:31 GMT
#6529
Theres also the fact rstoulins claim was weird and she coulda been vet. Either way I think its enough reason to not kill super today plus he seems to be trying now
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:34 GMT
#6532
No
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:36 GMT
#6535
So I think todays lynch is between onegu and slam. Both have had the longest chance to help town but have refused. Onegu is rng who he votes which in hind site probably ment he was not really a mason...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:42 GMT
#6540
On March 25 2015 14:37 Trfel wrote:
Sicklucker, Onegu already rescinded his mason claim....


Im aware
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:58 GMT
#6552
On March 25 2015 12:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 12:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 25 2015 12:29 Superbia wrote:
Artanis.

uh

why

lol


All right. So Artanis' day 1 is actually really really bad, with the exception if rayn ever flips mafia (which I severely doubt at this point).

He hard defends LS:

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town:
On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet.

I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won

Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you.

I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably)

With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it.

Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town?


from JoaT:
On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.

Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game

not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me.

Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different?

Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned.

I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled.
Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game.
So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh.
@Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why?
@ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other?


Oh god this post is so mafia

Have you played with LS before? This is how LS plays.


He calls toad scum and by proxy, defends Palmar who toad is tunneling. Interestingly, at this very point Artanis had no read on Palmar! He was reading him null!

Then, when the claim wars happen, he completely flips on toad, and goes hard after vivax. This is after toad was his hard mafia read.

We are left with this list:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Votes as I see them:
Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): ExO

Not Voting (1): Trfel

Only having 1.7 scumread is problematic. Was hoping this'd help more.


With the exception of possibly rayn, most of his reads are pretty shit. He leans town on two confirmed mafia (really bad) for seemingly no good reason whatsoever.

Now this is where it gets scummy, with the whole claim thing. There's a wagon on Vivax and a wagon starts on BM. As the wagon starts, Art calls it "pure" but refuses to switch. He gets called out by you (Eden) and he gives a half-assed excuse later. He seems to strongly consider the world in which both vigis are real:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think Superbia might possibly be right. Host WIFOM time.
I know HtS likes her vigis because she hates lurkers. It's therefore very likely there's at least 1 vigi in the setup. Since the playercount wasn't fixed until the end, I find it plausible that the end balance was made by adding an additional vigi.

I'm not sure if I find that more plausible than that Vivax simply tried to fakeclaim and failed though. Toad definitely town for the CC, I just don't ever see mafia making that play when it isn't necessary.


But for a reason I don't share whatsoever, proceeds to call Vivax 100% scum anyway. Moreover, Artanis later finds the time to make a paint diagram on rayn's anger levels, a very peculiar thing to do in such a high-stress claim situation for town. He seems to consider his options during this claim war, but I sincerely doubt he actually did consider anything. In the end he is still reading Vivax as scum.

Now it gets even weirder, we manage to get the wagon off of Vivax, and the night phase begins. For some reason, Artanis decides to town-read Vivax, before the night actions are even resolved. Then when the day begins (and KP is reduced), Artanis hard-reads Vivax town for his filter length, what!?

My theory at this point is that scum put both an RB and KP on Vivax. I believe that both Artanis and Onegu are scum due to this. I believe Artanis was looking to set himself up to look good before Vivax flipped town, and that he needed to substantiate his read after it became obvious Vivax lived through the KP. By extension, I think that Onegu is scum because in this world Onegu is never the save.

I think for a 3rd scum slam is still a good bet.


This is really interesting. and brings me to a rayn post let me dig it out
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 05:59 GMT
#6555
acualy no the rayn post I was thinking of was shit
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 06:04 GMT
#6559
Well hes right that if onegus town I was already confirmed since I was the only one who thought they were fake ( I would not kill hf/onegu if im mafia). I dont think anyone would have used that correct logic tho if its even a thing.

Im sl I have to literally kill mafia to get townread aparently
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 16:01 GMT
#6628
FF is this the game you finally rolled scum? It seems like a hard game and i forgot you were in it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 17:56 GMT
#6680
On March 26 2015 02:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 02:24 Onegu wrote:
On March 03 2015 16:31 Onegu wrote:
On March 03 2015 12:16 prplhz wrote:
26

@rsoultin Can you show me this Alakaslam bored/notbored read thing you have going on? I just checked out these scum games 1 3 7 and these town games 1 51 i and I don't see it.



No, my meta read is good on slam rsoultins is bad. Count how many times he has said chupazi, Svengali, or hijole this game(after day post) multiply by (5+day #) then subtract he post count (including pregame) if you are in the negative he is scum. In the positive he is town.


holy shit is this real? lmfao



no!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 17:57 GMT
#6681
Slam name a mafia team of 3
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 18:54 GMT
#6710
On March 26 2015 03:19 Alakaslam wrote:
And SL, what have you been doing so well such that people prefer my lynch to yours? You may as well clarify your position while I'm at it because I might rise to the point where you become the next target.


I killed a mafia...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2015 20:55 GMT
#6749
Who thought rayn was town? Because I did
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:37 GMT
#6907
On March 26 2015 10:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:17 Breshke wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:12 Breshke wrote:
On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed?


This is what i was reffering to. As Rso did not jail exo we can not 100% confirm that there was a role blocker. Which if she had we very most likely could have.

From someone who hasn't ead much of the game slam i think it would be useful fo you to decide weather or not the scum team has a RB. It is obviously very likely that they do. Idc if this is all wifom but what was the RB doing N1 if he was not role-blocking vivax.

Also damdred i said the LS thing before the BM lynch. I honestly can not remember why i didn't come back to it during N1 it might have been because rso convinced me otherwise or because talk was mainly domianted about the vig claims and what not. This would have been the only time for me to bring it up again because trefel came out early with a tracker claim.

Also if you are going to use the fact that palmar basically ignored me this game as a part of a reason to scumread me what is your read on FF because can the same not be said about him. I think I have been mainly passed over by a lot of people this game not for a fault in them but because ive been uninteresting and have done nothing. This was apart of the original reason i townread you damdred because you were the first person to bring me up for legitimate reasons and not just pass me over.

Vivax could BE the rb.

Come on, srs


Okay. So do you think he RB'd toad? or just randomly used the RB to hunt for other PR's?

Holy fuck how stupid do you think I am? Toad shot went through. He wasn't blocked. Wow.

Anyone could have been rb if rb isn't notified, but since it is Vivax would have to be scum with scum withholding rb. Although anyone else rb last night, EH?


Rstoulin might have been rbed last night because mafia took out both are roles and didnt try to medic dodge. Infact she had to have been .
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:38 GMT
#6910
I told rst to save exo but she didnt because she was rbed. I dont think shes that bad not to save are claimed cop
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:46 GMT
#6921
On March 26 2015 13:12 Damdred wrote:
Putting this here so I don't forget, both vigilantees in fanfic weren't able to shoot night one. So that's something to think about also...


Toad shot?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:47 GMT
#6922
On March 26 2015 13:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why do you think the hosting in imperial was so good? Slam, FF, Liancourt(mvp) hosting a 500 page game.


Those are the 3 people I would least trust to water my plants on tl mafia lulz
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:54 GMT
#6932
I love how the two people im most afraid of losing too again are fighting at least I cant lose to both of you
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:55 GMT
#6933
Hf could have been rbed
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 26 2015 13:57 GMT
#6935
Like mafia usualy uses rbs on who they kill incase there a vet. (except if they know who a role is) If vivax is fake they should rb you tho toad
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