I'd be fine with either at this point. I think I can narrow down my PoE list to 6 after Onegu claims and I make up my mind on FF, so carpet bombing into the rest would secure a victory either way.

I just don't see how the game can be this easy...

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 20:56 GMT

#6052

Blue claims in this game

Onegu claimed mason
- Holyflare and Onegu claimed masons together
Vivax claimed vigilante
raynpelikoneet claimed tracker
Toadesstern counterclaimed vigilante
Holyflare flipped vanilla town, not mason
rsoultin claimed jailkeeper
Onegu claimed mason with raynpelikoneet
- raynpelikoneet stuck to tracker claim instead of mason
ExO_ claimed cop
ritoky (raynpelikoneet's replacement) claimed vanilla town (instead of tracker)

So we're currently left with:

ExO_: cop
rsoultin: jailkeeper
Vivax: vigilante
Toadesstern: vigilante
Onegu: mason

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 20:57 GMT

#6054

And yes, Vivax, Carol of the Bells is not a good way to represent Fecalfeast's town play any more. It's been improving by leaps and bounds recently.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 20:57 GMT

#6056

On March 25 2015 05:56 Eden1892 wrote:
I claimed rolecop

Or rather, counterclaimed ExO_ while confirming his claim XD

Anyway, come the resolution period, I'm going to shake things up a bit.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 20:59 GMT

#6061

On March 25 2015 05:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also since everyone's claiming I'm fakeclaiming vet.

Then I'm counterclaiming fake vet. Would you care to fake rescind?

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 21:14 GMT

#6080

On March 25 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote:
Which vigi claimed the shot on VE again?

Toadesstern did.

Vivax claimed a roleblock on a shot on Alakaslam.

ExO_ claimed a green check on rsoultin.

Raynpelikoneet claimed a track on Vivax stating Vivax went nowhere, but ritoky claimed VT, so

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 21:51 GMT

#6113

On March 25 2015 06:50 Superbia wrote:

Show nested quote +

I was expecting KP to go on Vivax if Onegu was mafia for some reason. Too much speculation.

If Vivax was to be roleblocked, I would have expected KP to go to ExO_ or raynpelikoneet (if he was town).

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:38 GMT

#6195

Damdred, do you remember how ritoky played in Down Under 2?

He tried far harder than everyone else in the game, and continued to do so throughout. The only tell I am currently aware of that he was scum in that game was the way he waffled on his scum partners.

I'm hesitant to town read him at this time.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:40 GMT

#6198

Everything You Know is Wrong!

Does anyone else find it suspicious that rsoultin claimed jailkeeper when she did?

I think it's very suspicious.

On March 22 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
nah, honestly i think it's best that i just claim right here tbh, cause it helps shed light on the night actions

i JKd Onegu, and the breadcrumb was so damn obvious they'll prob shoot me tonight anyway lol

Look at this. Rsoultin claims jailkeeper while under zero pressure from the thread. And the reasons she provides are:

Providing some hints as to the mafia night kills
Rsoultin was going to get shot Night 2 anyway for the breadcrumb

The second point suffers from the very obvious flaw of alternative explanations for the night kills. These are as follows:

Mafia double stacked someone (or shot VisceraEyes)
Toadesstern is mafia
Veteran was hit

And this is certain enough to be worth having town's (arguably) most powerful role dead on Night 2? I certainly don't think so.

On March 22 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
gonna emulate onegu now (sorry for the 21pg spammage :/)

no more posties from me for awhile

And here is the breadcrumb the size of a galaxy. I don't think so. It mentions Onegu's name, but with nothing whatsoever that indicates a night action. And rsoultin is guaranteed to die on Night 2 because of this?

Rsoultin is not this bad of a player. Here is evidence why.

Student Mafia V

On January 28 2015 07:00 Blazinghand wrote:

End Game

rsoultin the VT has been lynched!

Geript has been endgamed!
Damdred has been endgamed!
Breshke has been endgamed!

Scum is victorious!

DarthPunk is victorious!
The Shining is victorious!
Trfel is victorious!

Rsoultin's play is absolutely brilliant. She would never be so bad as to claim jailkeeper in this scenario.... Unless she isn't the jailkeeper.

This begs the question, what would town!rsoultin gain from fake-claiming jailkeeper?

The answer is a myriad of confusion. Town has been operating based on false premises for the past 72 hours. The night kills aren't explained at all. And town really has no clue, since this changes everything. With no benefit from fake-claiming and the confusion caused to town, even the very worst mafia players would not make this terrible of a play. And as shown above, rsoultin is a very capable and intelligent player.

Therefore, rsoultin must be mafia.

This is the only play that makes sense. The positives that rsoultin will never be lynched, and the chaos and confusion she has already caused (and intended to continue causing) are well worth the risk of being lynched.

If you need more proof, I have it. For obvious reasons, was imperative for me to wait until the resolution period, to prevent the mafia from changing their night actions in response.

I am the actual jailkeeper.

Given what I've stated above, I don't think this can be in doubt any longer. But as further evidence, here are my night actions.

Night 1: I had the orb, and thus was not allowed to use my jailkeeper ability.
Night 2: I was too busy typing up this post, so I didn't have time to send in the action. Sorry, guys.

And now you know. Rsoultin is clearly scum. In this way, I will surely be killed, but I take two mafia with me. I consider that to be a good trade. And if the rest of you can't figure out how to win the game from here, you probably should make sure you're reading the right game.

Do the right thing. Don't let people survive on fake claims!
PS I'm pretty sure that raynpelikoneet's fake tracker claim makes ritoky confirmed town

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:44 GMT

#6205

On March 25 2015 07:43 Eden1892 wrote:
you were supposed to post that before the mafia's nightkills were locked trfel

But then, they would just kill me. This way, I get another day to make sure I can force rsoultin's lynch through.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:50 GMT

#6214

Of course you are indestructible, rsoultin... You're scum. You're not dying tonight.

You even admitted it.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:52 GMT

#6218

On March 25 2015 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Show nested quote +

People have already forgotten about my Vet fakeclaim into Vet claim, I'm so sad

It's okay, because I'm fake vet. And I think we're allowed to have both a fake vet and a real vet in the game.

Otherwise, you're getting lynched. So you only really have one answer.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:53 GMT

#6220

On March 25 2015 07:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Eden's Legacy Post

fuck y'all and your shitty claims

I'm the jailer

I suppose maybe it's possible we have three jailkeepers.... Maybe if there's six mafia? Would that be balanced?

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:58 GMT

#6229

What garbage role claims?

I claimed my role at the optimal time.

Trfel