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Eden1892
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On March 20 2015 12:24 Superbia wrote: Atm I'm not hard town reading him. I have him leaning town but kinda null since you're moving up a little. why does damdred moving up affect vivax moving down? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 10:10 Superbia wrote: So I feel like rayn is different from his town game this game. He essentially scum-reads me, damdred and SL. While I'm scum-reading both damdred and SL and voting on SL. Moreover, his initial scum-read was both me & SL (iirc). Which makes absolutely no sense since I spent a fair amount of time (perhaps unjustly) burying SL. Like these interactions should be obvious, especially if he's scum-reading me (indicating he has put time into my filter). Hence prob scum. Damdred I have elaborated upon. Probably my most likely scum at this moment? SL is kind of meh at the moment. I remember at some point going "definitely scum" around the time he posted his list and mentally reminding myself not to flip on him. Essentially, I feel like his posts have been rather emotionless, while I have SL mentally noted down as an emotional player. Need to re-evaluate, I feel. So the conundrum is that there is now a scum-read triangle (again, iirc) between SL, damdred, and myself. Essentially, each of us is reading the other two as scummy. I am relatively convinced that there is at least 1 scum between the 2 (SL and damdred), but for some reason I don't think both of them are scum. if your most likely scum at the time is Damdred why is your vote on sicklucker and why do you never vote Damdred? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 12:31 Superbia wrote: Why is this relevant? It's not EoD and my reads are not set in stone yet. Chances are I'm not changing my vote until EoD. just seems like you would actually vote your primary suspect no? especially when 3 other people were already doing it | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
more than your top scumread at the time who was also a viable wagon ??? | ||
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Eden1892
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Eden1892
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and it certainly matters cause it doesn't really indicate to me that damdred is your top scum. it's pretty clearly contradictory and i want to understand why the contradiction exists | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:01 Superbia wrote: Notice the question mark after I call him my top scum. weak on damdred: "probably my most likely scum?" on sicklucker: "kind of meh at the moment" on both: "relatively convinced there is at least 1 scum between the 2, but for some reason i don't think both are scum" vote is on sicklucker while there's a significant damdred wagon i don't understand how you can type all 3 of those things and not conclude to yourself that damdred is mafia | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:08 Superbia wrote: I'm about to become mad Eden. Why the fuck are you voting me over this? Your entire argument is that I did not vote for my "top scum". Even though it's blatantly fucking obvious I'm still evaluating HALFWAY THROUGH DAY FUCKING 1. no my argument is that what you're saying is inconsistent and i don't understand why please explain why you don't conclude that damdred is mafia from the 3 statements i summarized from your post which (i would think) should clearly lead you to conclude that | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:09 Superbia wrote: I haven't checked every filter in the game yet. I don't have a read on everyone yet. Hence I don't know what team of 5 I'm supposed to look for yet. afaik nothing i'm saying here depends on anybody but sicklucker and damdred so i'm not really understanding why you need to be looking for a specific team of 5 to answer this query | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote: I'm posting my thoughts. I said I thought Damdred was mafia. People who I read townie said I needed to re-evaluate on Damdred. Damdred started posting. His posting seemed like it could come from a townie mindset. Now Damdred is null, slightly leaning mafia. Yeah? superbia. follow me here man. you're not answering the question. at the time you posted, before anyone could give you feedback on damdred: you said "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?" you also said "sicklucker is kind of meh" you also said "i think there is 1 mafia between them but not 2" given these things why do you not conclude damdred is clearly mafia and sicklucker is not? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:17 Superbia wrote: By the end of the day I prefer to look at the bigger picture rather than single out individuals. I want to see if the person I'm voting for fits in a mafia circle. Is there a universal wagon? How are the other people I'm reading scummy interacting with this individual? Etc, etc. ok, i kinda understand the logic here, but i feel like you have to start by finding individuals. and frankly i'm a little worried that this process excuses you from finding individuals | ||
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Eden1892
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Eden1892
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On March 20 2015 13:29 Superbia wrote: And then you guys told me "nono, damd is town" and it's like, whatever, I guess I'll re-evaluate? Though I may just say fuck you guys and still read him mafia tomorrow, we'll see. okay, this is the second time you've made the same logic error. i will explain again. if you make it a third time i will be forced to assume it's deliberate and respond accordingly. all of the following statements were contained in one post: - "damdred is probably my best pick for scum?" - "sicklucker is kind of meh" - "i am relatively certain 1 of them is scum, but i don't think both are" because these were all contained in one post, no one could have given input in-between any of these statements to change your relative certainty that one of them is scum. so taking this at face value, i do not understand why it is that you: - don't firmly conclude damdred is mafia - don't conclude that sicklucker isn't mafia - don't move your vote please explain why this inconsistency exists | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:30 Superbia wrote: Like I'm off for now because I want to catch the eclipse tomorrow. i was gonna get salty at not getting an answer but this is actually hella legit you better have a good answer when you come back tho. and pics of the eclipse | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote: You're literally an asshole. But whatever, it's like 4 hours away. Not going to get much sleep either way.  i said pics because i wanted to see the eclipse and i can't cuz i'm a bajillion miles away | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:42 Bill Murray wrote: if sicklucker is up against people i view as town (damdred, eden, etc) i am going to vote him on the policy of L.A.L. (lynch all liars) as it is, though, i am going to relax tonight and see where the thread goes tomorrow. im going to catch up on the EU LCS i missed today, and try to whip another 80 pages out of my book on the french revolution. ive read most of 80-93 (or at least skimmed) so im only lacking ~20-30 pages of reading/skimming plus i mean having read the first 30-40 pages of the game i have a decent feel for who is going to contribute and who isn't I don't really have any strong reads. I'm sure scum are merely eluding me because I'm rusty... but there is ample opportunity to catch them later. I'll get up with you guys tomorrow. Have a safe night  hehebilll muray u are a disacre soon as i talk 2u abot the ncaa turney my team lose r1 this is on u | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:48 LightningStrike wrote: Eden always jumps with his reads and just asking if he's getting something from it knwoing how he jumps alot as town. what if i told you the answer is no | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
let me put it another way. what were you looking to learn from asking that question? | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 20 2015 14:19 LightningStrike wrote: I was wanting to know if you got something out of it on Superbia's alignment because if you didn't it looks bad in my eyes at least. oh. lol ya well i'm voting for superbia so... lol i'm really having trouble understanding his thought process in that post. as of now, without superbia's forthcoming explanation, it seems like he was trying to say things about other players without really coming to direct conclusions about them. damdred i think touched on this earlier, i think i spelled out more explicitly how. he seems like a decent lynch right now, but i do want to wait to give him a chance before i start yelling to bury him. i'm not sold that this is ironclad i just think it's good enough to run with for now and press harder on | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 20 2015 14:24 sicklucker wrote: Breske why are you voting me after reading me right your pretty terrible have you learned nothing... Im playing dota right now but im not letting you gobbers lose another game for town by killing me as if ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/lol-duck.gif) | ||
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