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On March 21 2015 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote: lol I am anything but cute but I will take any compliment I can get.
I kinda still think LS is mafiaaaa I don't like the people who want to lynch LS though.
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I think Superbia might possibly be right. Host WIFOM time. I know HtS likes her vigis because she hates lurkers. It's therefore very likely there's at least 1 vigi in the setup. Since the playercount wasn't fixed until the end, I find it plausible that the end balance was made by adding an additional vigi.
I'm not sure if I find that more plausible than that Vivax simply tried to fakeclaim and failed though. Toad definitely town for the CC, I just don't ever see mafia making that play when it isn't necessary.
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I like that Toad claimed, presuming he's the town vig. It feels like the safe play because it gives us a lot of information to work with even if it gets a bit chaotic. I'd like to request everyone to put their emotions aside as much as possible and think this through rationally. We've got 2 hours, we can solve this if we don't devolve into petty arguing.
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On March 21 2015 06:04 Trfel wrote: Artanis[Xp], what do you think about raynpelikoneet's claim? I'm not sure, I think it's probably genuine as it was relatively unprovoked and seemed to come from anger in ways that Rayn has ragequit before when he's feeling particularly righteous.
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On March 21 2015 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 06:04 Trfel wrote: Artanis[Xp], what do you think about raynpelikoneet's claim? I'm not sure, I think it's probably genuine as it was relatively unprovoked and seemed to come from anger in ways that Rayn has ragequit before when he's feeling particularly righteous. then sheep me. toad is mafia, not for his claim but his read on me. That you're probably town doesn't mean you're probably right dear. I have a much stronger townread on Toad than you at this point.
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The only way Toad is mafia is if this is another epic LI-style doublebus.
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On March 21 2015 06:08 Palmar wrote: I honestly don't know by the way. I don't think they're both vigis.
I do appreciate that there is no need for scumToad to counterclaim this, it makes literally no sense. I do question though why he counterclaimed this, because shooting Vivax in the night seems MUCH cleaner.
Maybe mafia really wants VivaxVig dead? or maybe Toad is town and didn't apply brain to game.
I thought I had a good point about toad earlier in the game and I though he overreacted when I pointed it out. I honestly don't know. Like I would totally counterclaim Vivax as mafia, but I also understand that not everyone plays mafia as recklessly as I do. I have no idea if it's within Toad's range. Toad is capable of making these kinds of plays, see LI where he and VE went on an epic rampage against one another. I just don't think the situations are similar enough that Toad's play makes sense as mafia. That claim was a long time coming as they had gone through a lot of motions, this claim came kind of out of the blue. I don't think just throws his hat in the ring the way he did here as mafia when they're (presumably) not in a terrible spot. The only way they would be is if they're both mafia.
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On March 21 2015 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: OH MY FUCKING GOD ARTANIS THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Your mom makes no sense.
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I dunno who I want to lynch if we're not lynching Vivax though. Rayn's claim makes me doubt. I guess my next in line would be Superbia but he hasn't been involved yet in the last ~16h at all so it'd be a crapshoot.
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Vivax basically giving up after being cced after a few posts also gives me good feels.
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On March 21 2015 06:19 Superbia wrote:I think I'm a 100% on board. I would be okay with Breshke or SL as well. Bad, bad feelings. Why Breshke?
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On March 21 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:24 rsoultin wrote: lol rayn is scumreading everyone who has ever scumread him this game eden and i don't give a shit what he thinks. talk about relevant stuff I am scumreading people who should not have scumreads on me based on what they say. Don't you dare to misinterpret me. done
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On March 21 2015 06:26 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 06:24 Superbia wrote: Toad. What if you're both vig? If that's the case Vivax will flip mafiaVig He would risk mafia kp by claiming vig? Why? Because he was getting lynched otherwise.
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On March 21 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote: The thing nobody has adressed yet is that I would have claimed the worst possible role if I was mafia. Unless you're the mafia vig and you were able to prove your role of course.
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On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote: The thing nobody has adressed yet is that I would have claimed the worst possible role if I was mafia. Unless you're the mafia vig and you were able to prove your role of course. What you just mentioned is exactly the reason why I would never fakeclaim such a role. I believe that if you're mafia there is a mafia vig in your team. It doesn't even have to be you.
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On March 21 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote: The thing nobody has adressed yet is that I would have claimed the worst possible role if I was mafia. Unless you're the mafia vig and you were able to prove your role of course. What you just mentioned is exactly the reason why I would never fakeclaim such a role. I believe that if you're mafia there is a mafia vig in your team. It doesn't even have to be you. That completely dodges the point. Point is: There is no way I would fakeclaim vig as 1. I can be CCd, 2. There's the chance of a mafia vig. That's good, because I'm not claiming you're fakeclaiming vig as town.
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BM wagon is looking so pure though.
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On March 21 2015 06:34 Damdred wrote: I'm here I skipped 4 pages thread moved to fast no way is toad Scum here... [2]
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Anyone voting for Toad is
On March 21 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: S OBADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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On March 21 2015 06:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:35 Vivax wrote: Yea like would be interesting to know who only pops up when the vigi claim is up since before it was just a plain wagon on me. It's like the best moment for scum to come in and post some cred-farming bullshit. Guys who fit the profile the most are Artanis, Trfel, Eden, super. I was on you as the first though.
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