TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 107

On March 20 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Vivax is town because he goes after mafia Superbia and mafia LS.
Damdred probably just bad here.

On March 20 2015 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like it's pretty fucking clear why both of Superbia and LS are mafia.

On March 20 2015 22:52 Damdred wrote:
Vivax is actually probably mafia for his filter and interactions in the game. His tone and actions in this game are vastly different from his normal town games even in games where he was scum read its so vastly different that he is probably scum.

The first thing I would like to draw your attention to is the activity to which Vivax is putting into the game at this point. The game is roughly 105 pages at this point after 36ish hours (probably 38 hours). Vivax has a filter of 2 1/2 pages discounting pre game discussion about game mechanics. While filter length is not always an indicator of scum, if you compare it to his town games in imperial (not as bad an example as the game is growing at a proportional rate to imperial at this time) or if you compare it to Void (day one in void) you will see the vast difference in how fast and loose Vivax is with his postings. He just doesn't have the same involvement in the game that he normally does as town.

This game Vivax takes a sidelines stance on many of the hot topics of the thread or just isn't taking part in it. For example when the slam business is going on Vivax pubically says hes not going to take a stance on it. Instead of taking a stance on the toad Palmar fiasco he just says it was an over reaction without drawing any real conclussions from it. He also has no opinion on rayn during a heated part of the thread, hes really not sticking his neck out or trying to get involved in the thread at the really heated times just really trying to blend in. IE I have Rayn on ice is what he says.

His scum hunting at this point is really generic without much push in the thread. When he has somewhat developed a scum read such as on superbia he states it and partially backs off of the read as time goes along. For example he scum reads superbia for a few posts and puts them in the thread but then moves on towards LS after he makes big LS type posts that look pretty easy to pick on. Super is still his strongest scum read and has the most reasoning behind it, when he returns to the thread he drops it over an argument that Super and Eden had over semantics? There were clear inconsitincies in what super was saying and acting in the thread during my interactions with Super and with super and eden. But they were good enough for super to drop his strongest suspect to move on to LS?

He has no real focus or push in the thread, his scum reads are pretty haphazard and he lacks the crazy drive that he normally shows as town. If you look in void or in imperial which I've already referenced before, or in Mission mafia he always is pushing people working out the scenerios in the thread driving the thread activity hes just not doing that here. Hes more subdued and letting the thread take its own course while blending in and not getting involved in the heat of the moment battles that are going on.

Compare his filter to his scum game in Storm Mafia 2 which I think was his last scum game? And it is pretty similar in length and ability to blend in and drive the thread.

Vivax is a good pick for scum here.

On March 20 2015 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin can be mafia too because he doesn't have any reasons to think i am mafia.
His reasons are "rayn hasn't done his towntell which he always does".

On March 20 2015 23:09 Damdred wrote:


and then instantly drops superbia for bad reasoning and goes after LS who is just being ls....ooookkkkk

On March 20 2015 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Are you mafia too because you talk about other people you think are scum than me?
There is no implication in Vivax' filter he is not scumreading Superbia any more. He is just doing things other than focusing on just one person this day phase. Which is not scummy the slightest.

On March 20 2015 23:11 Vivax wrote:
It's a cute try but I can't remember a game where I got lynched D1 as town without marv in it.

After reading the case from Damdred, even though it's very wordy, you can exactly draw two observations: 1. I'm less active than my townie self, 2. I picked on LS cause he was easy to pick on (?).

Argument 1 is the sort of bs argument vets get confronted with when they posted more in earlier games. It's the very same argument that made Koshi modkill himself in his second last game. So it doesn't apply.

Argument 2 is interesting as I just asked Damdred what he thinks would make LS mafia and he replied with something that could make LS mafia in his opinion. He completely dismisses my argument, brought ahead his own but he doesn't think there is a good reason to be suspicious of LS if he thinks I am scum and by consequence LS town? That doesn't quite fit.

On March 20 2015 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I find it odd you scumread me when you should not scumread me but the you ask holyflare to point out games where i am mafia when you usually look for them yourself to get a read but then you don't ever go look them you jsut sit with holyflare doesn't give me games and still scumread me.

does that make sense?

On March 20 2015 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

In Void Vivax had a good excuse for that and would've replaced out but he didn't.

On March 20 2015 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote LighningStrike

If you can't see why this is a mafia post you are either scum or bad.

On March 20 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:


Actually, lovely, his best point was your peripheral play and scumread dropping xP

which i notice you don't address

On March 20 2015 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:

Only a small correction but Vivax was Mafia in Carol (Ghost of Jacob Marley) but I do agree that he looks similar to how he played Storm (although he had a 7 page filter that game but this is a more active game so he could have a bigger filter since the the amount of pages for this game is going to surpass Storm but still) and Imperial was much more engaging at least the way I felt from reading his first few pages of his filter there and Void I remember him getting his own category for how crazy player is and he isn't being as crazy as he normally was in those games. If your Mafia again great you pocketed me again on a good case since I think it's prob the best case in this game.
##Vote: Vivax

On March 20 2015 23:17 sicklucker wrote:


Im prettty sure vivax was town in carol. like pretty pretty sure