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On March 21 2015 05:38 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:36 Palmar wrote: why did Toad even counterclaim, couldn't he just find an alternative lynch and shoot vivax in the night? Grr, that's a good point, isn't it. I need to leave ASAP, already late. To elaborate on the Vivax quote I just posted, while it's possible that I am misinterpreting it, it seems that Vivax is endorsing the suggestion that there are multiple vigilantes. Otherwise, he would say something else other than "a lot of people like this idea".
Yes I would say lynch Toad or me, which I did, you aren't reading properly but misrepresenting me without a shade of doubt.
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On March 21 2015 05:38 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:37 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 05:36 Palmar wrote: why did Toad even counterclaim, couldn't he just find an alternative lynch and shoot vivax in the night? See. This is what differentiates a noob from a guy who plays mafia for years. To be fair, has anyone even pointed out this possibility before?
I can't think clearly. That feeling when you play dota and the team sucks.
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On March 21 2015 05:40 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:39 Palmar wrote:On March 21 2015 05:38 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 05:36 Palmar wrote: why did Toad even counterclaim, couldn't he just find an alternative lynch and shoot vivax in the night? I have a 100% confirmed mafia in Vivax that I can 1-1 trade with. You're telling me you wouldn't go for that? Sure you would. You would step 1: Shut the fuck up. step 2: murder him in the night. See, dead mafia! Or I tell people to not leave Vivax, get a mafia lynched and still shoot into mafia in the night and mafia has to KP as well as RB me?
Mafia wouldn't know you're the vigi.
And you do computer science? LOL
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On March 21 2015 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game except that I've been saying that there is no way there are 2 vigs in this game. I even went ahead and wrote out that you guys should lynch me no matter what if I ever get in this and tell people I fakeclaimed Vig as VT because I'm not doing that. I'm not going to back down on Vivax fakeclaiming either. There are no two townvigs in this game. Vivax might be mafiavig who fakeclaimed to get his shot off though, which Palmar is conveniently ignoring to vote me based on "toad would just wait"... no I wouldn't
There is no mafiavig
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On March 21 2015 06:05 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:04 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game except that I've been saying that there is no way there are 2 vigs in this game. I even went ahead and wrote out that you guys should lynch me no matter what if I ever get in this and tell people I fakeclaimed Vig as VT because I'm not doing that. I'm not going to back down on Vivax fakeclaiming either. There are no two townvigs in this game. Vivax might be mafiavig who fakeclaimed to get his shot off though, which Palmar is conveniently ignoring to vote me based on "toad would just wait"... no I wouldn't There is no mafiavig ... Mafia vigilante is in fact a possibility. As is alignment cop. Both Vivax and Toadesstern have made an error with regards to possible roles in the game.
No, mafia doesn't have a role with KP except when they get the orb.
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Unless the ruleset has been changed since the last time I checked.
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On March 21 2015 06:08 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:06 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:05 Trfel wrote:On March 21 2015 06:04 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game except that I've been saying that there is no way there are 2 vigs in this game. I even went ahead and wrote out that you guys should lynch me no matter what if I ever get in this and tell people I fakeclaimed Vig as VT because I'm not doing that. I'm not going to back down on Vivax fakeclaiming either. There are no two townvigs in this game. Vivax might be mafiavig who fakeclaimed to get his shot off though, which Palmar is conveniently ignoring to vote me based on "toad would just wait"... no I wouldn't There is no mafiavig ... Mafia vigilante is in fact a possibility. As is alignment cop. Both Vivax and Toadesstern have made an error with regards to possible roles in the game. No, mafia doesn't have a role with KP except when they get the orb. Lie: Show nested quote +Korath the Pursuer
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Korath the Pursuer is trained in the martial arts and wields beta batons capable of stunning opponents on contact.
Korath can supercharge enough force in his batons to kill any player of his choosing on a given night. Hence why your stupid vig fakeclaim is the easiest fakeclaim in the game and why you went for it.
Hm, last time I checked there was no mafia vig I could swear.
Anyway Toad, enjoy your survival for today, as you will be dead tomorrow.
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On March 21 2015 06:13 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:10 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 06:08 Palmar wrote: I honestly don't know by the way. I don't think they're both vigis.
I do appreciate that there is no need for scumToad to counterclaim this, it makes literally no sense. I do question though why he counterclaimed this, because shooting Vivax in the night seems MUCH cleaner.
Maybe mafia really wants VivaxVig dead? or maybe Toad is town and didn't apply brain to game.
I thought I had a good point about toad earlier in the game and I though he overreacted when I pointed it out. I honestly don't know. Like I would totally counterclaim Vivax as mafia, but I also understand that not everyone plays mafia as recklessly as I do. I have no idea if it's within Toad's range. What if Vivax is mafiaVig. Ever thought about that? just to explain it a little more because you either have a bad case of the dumb or don't want to understand it Palmar: If we don't lynch Vivax today there's a good chance he will get to use his shot if he is a mafiaVig He'a not mafia vig. He just slipped. There is no mafia vig. He is mafia however, he has to be
Have you ever considered I missed it in the OP? Whatever, go on with your precopernical view of the game.
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On March 21 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:15 Trfel wrote:On March 21 2015 06:14 Eden1892 wrote: Come on guys someone help a brother out here. I don't wanna have to read 50 pgs real fast like Vivax claimed vigilante. raynpelikoneet claimed tracker. Toadesstern counterclaimed vigilante. Now the question is, who do we lynch? I think Vivax is a good lynch. Raynpelikoneet isn't a bad lynch IMO, but most people seem willing to leave that for another day, so I guess I'll accept that. This guy can be mafia too.
Agreed.
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I'll be trying to consider a scenario where Toad can actually be town as the people suggesting it first are very likely to be scum, if that's the case, since it suggests they have extra information as anyone who is used to normal games would assume there's only one town vig.
Ie Trfel, Artanis and the such.
Just in case that Toad flips town tomorrow.
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And Super. I think he was even the first to come up with the idea of us being two townies.
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On March 21 2015 06:22 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:20 Vivax wrote: And Super. I think he was even the first to come up with the idea of us being two townies. Are you calling me mafia for saying that I think both of you are town?
Yes. Cause if it's true it means you are very likely to have extra information.
If it's true that is. Tomorrow it's all going to be about Toad.
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Shortly before deadline = 3 hours lol
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The thing nobody has adressed yet is that I would have claimed the worst possible role if I was mafia.
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On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote: Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia.
I'll shoot who the hell I please, I'm not your puppet.
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On March 21 2015 06:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote: The thing nobody has adressed yet is that I would have claimed the worst possible role if I was mafia. Unless you're the mafia vig and you were able to prove your role of course.
What you just mentioned is exactly the reason why I would never fakeclaim such a role.
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Cause apparently there are two vigs. I expected my claim to have more weight in my ignorance of the possibility of a mafia vig.
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On March 21 2015 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote: The thing nobody has adressed yet is that I would have claimed the worst possible role if I was mafia. Unless you're the mafia vig and you were able to prove your role of course. What you just mentioned is exactly the reason why I would never fakeclaim such a role. I believe that if you're mafia there is a mafia vig in your team. It doesn't even have to be you.
That completely dodges the point.
Point is: There is no way I would fakeclaim vig as 1. I can be CCd, 2. There's the chance of a mafia vig.
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If I were mafia I'd claim cop or something like that.
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On March 21 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote: Just give it a night, we force the vigs to shoot our own targets or they claim mafia. If they don't it's free mafia. I'll shoot who the hell I please, I'm not your puppet. are you trying to act tough or are you serious here?
I'm serious. I'm selfish, and I shoot out of rage.
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