XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+)

On March 09 2015 16:34 rsoultin wrote:
lolol ><

apparently i'm scary ;o;

On March 10 2015 02:03 Eden1892 wrote:
i am bondage expert

On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic.

On March 10 2015 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

what? How do you possible read everyone who's posted so far as town?

On March 10 2015 07:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Guys, I have the first real read of the game. I literally only signed up to play this game so I could post this read so please take it very seriously.



rsoultin is town. She could not be fake breadcrumbing this role for this long as mafia

On March 10 2015 10:30 Onegu wrote:



No.excuses MAFIA!!!

On March 10 2015 10:42 Damdred wrote:
Man I called ls out and got shit on it. Haha that's awesome anyway I still think ls is town here for some reason

On March 10 2015 10:45 Onegu wrote:



Talking about Koshi, but sure let's go! I'm VT you just said you are town I win as VT > just town

On March 10 2015 10:51 Onegu wrote:
@ Rayn. Who is scum so I can sheep you?

@ Marv you don't get sheeped because you called me stupid

@ Koshi you don't get sheeped because you are scum

On March 10 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
marv gets sheeped because he called me stupid in a loving way ^^ dude lol I can't take this thread seriously

On March 10 2015 11:02 Eden1892 wrote:

he doesn't know who to lynch so he doesn't want to rng himself

On March 10 2015 11:06 Onegu wrote:



I don't know how to do BH's method and I want BH to accuse me of not using real RNG. Plus I have the soul read ability on Rayn after 24 hours day one I will have Rayn's alignment 100% and can sheep him if town. Will RNG sheep after Rayn dies and I PM BH how to actually do his RNG. Then will be IMPOSSIBLE to think I cheated!!!

On March 10 2015 11:09 ritoky wrote:
i would lynch eden cuz he likes pickles.

clearly the town is an anti-pickle zone.

On March 10 2015 11:12 Onegu wrote:



Are you claiming Miller?

On March 10 2015 11:24 Damdred wrote:
Ls is my town puppy this game. Nobody be mean to him while he does my leg work when I'm lazy

On March 10 2015 11:34 Onegu wrote:



Idk. A puppy in a sex game is kinda just wrong. Eww.

On March 10 2015 11:59 ritoky wrote:
just in case any1 was wondering:







##vote: eden

pickle lover!

#sickstrats

On March 10 2015 12:53 Onegu wrote:



Yes, yes it does

On March 10 2015 23:33 rsoultin wrote:
I think that post says something about rayn. Does it tell you anything about rayn.

Koshi can play too! It's like a game show, only the host lost the answer cards

On March 11 2015 00:22 rsoultin wrote:
awww but it's more fun this way ls bby :/

On March 11 2015 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike would you say someone claiming mafia at the start of the game more/less/equally interesting to you than someone claiming blue/mafia?

On March 11 2015 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So i claimed blue/mafia. Why was that not interesting to you?

On March 11 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

First post of the game...

On March 11 2015 01:46 marvellosity wrote:

*whispers*

this doesn't make much sense LS

*ceases whispers*

On March 11 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I think purplehaze played really well on D1 in the last Titanic game.

On March 11 2015 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

bullshit.

On March 11 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't care about the fact you found him mafia after D2. Because he was really fucking scummy on D2.
And YOU decided to lynch ME over him.

On March 11 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:

where is this going?

On March 11 2015 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes so elaborate please.

On March 11 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

also bullshit.

On March 11 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You had a townread on purplehaze on D2 in Titanic.
Then, when i die, you make a case on him (well after making a case on Slam) based on stuff that has happened when he was your townread.

Your read was DEFINITELY, on D3, based on other player's opinions -- at least a big part of it was.
Here, now, you are trying to say you are some kinda god in reading him and you are trying to say "all credit for me in my read on him in that game".

Why LightningStrike? Why?

On March 11 2015 02:16 prplhz wrote:
no LS made his case first i think. he certainly had me as a firm scum read on that day when we lynched palmar.

On March 11 2015 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It was not hazed a couple of minutes ago.

On March 11 2015 02:14 prplhz wrote:
anyway, LS played well in titanic i think because he looked really town all the way. dunno why people tried to lynch him that one time but it was silly.

On March 11 2015 02:22 prplhz wrote:
this is from 8 hours into a game where justanothertownie is town

link


he doesn't want to give a town read on someone he thinks is "not that hard to read".

in this game 10 hours in


4 town reads.

On March 11 2015 02:27 prplhz wrote:
@LightningStrike What do you think about the case on raynpelikoneet?

On March 11 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
the case is all my posts :p

On March 10 2015 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
To elaborate a little, specifically the whole trap-not-trap-whatever-it-was thing is very not-good


Like if he is serious about these posts then it's just terrible and rayn is not terrible.

If he is not really serious then it's not coming across very well (a negative point - would make it forced), and later posts seem to indicate he was at least trying to achieve something.

I wanted to see a couple of his posts after this to see if I liked how they looked, and I didn't.

So my vote is fairly serious for this point on D1.

On March 11 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
If you want to show it off and think it is true here go ahead LS dont' need my permission.

JAT is pretty uninteresting though so far in this cycle, which is meh I don't think I can really remember any of his points.

On February 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I'm back and now I bring the case on why JAT is confirmed Mafia. Now lets start with my first piece of evidence his case on HF on page 15 of his filter:


Now if you looked in Void Mafia he was just as aggressive towards HF at Pages 1,2, and 3 of his filter on these same type of behavior towards a different player named Half the Sky before turned his attention to his scum read Marv in that game. Also note his behavior after HF backed off of JAT , JAT started to like him in Void Mafia at page 4.
From Void Mafia:

Now if you look at his behavior regarding the votes on him or prssure on him he just attacked everyone including me and HF in this game. He did similar behavior throughout Void Mafia as scum and here is a convenient quote that JAT also in this game when someone mention him as scum in void Mafia when Koshi was town:

and now here's some similar type of quotes from this game:


Notice how he got angry on people wanting to lynch him throughout this game and in void he displayed the same behavior. When I played with him in Metal Mini he didn't seem to get mad as easily as this game and was activly solve the game there too.

On March 11 2015 02:43 prplhz wrote:
not calling geript "down" but "town"

typo >_<

On March 11 2015 02:51 Damdred wrote:
Rayn that post was later explained by LS to say the POE meta was other town reads he had I believe. He still called me RS town until I got shot and RS got shot, like you are totally misrepresenting what happened in that game and its bad.

LS made his case on prh day three I believe, slam revealed his check on oneg day 4? it went shoot damdred, palmar shenanigans lynched, rs shot, Oneg red checked. On palmar lynch day LS made his case, plenty of time to re-evaluate

On March 11 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It appears i have no fucking idea why LS posts anything he ever does.

On March 11 2015 04:42 ritoky wrote:
has the debate been solved?

On March 11 2015 06:21 ritoky wrote:


pickles was the point my friend, pickles. think about the greater picture.

On March 11 2015 06:28 ritoky wrote:


once you solve this, you will solve the game. it may require you to take courses in the eye of the chupazi, but clearly the pickle debate needs help in solving.

#sickstrats

On March 11 2015 08:27 justanothertownie wrote:

You are wrong though.
Could you please explain what you were talking about earlier when you said your case on me from horn could be applied in this game?

On March 11 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:
lol like your reads for the most part ls

anything specific you want to talk about?

On March 11 2015 11:27 rsoultin wrote:
lol i'm terrible at reading emotion. i think that has been sufficiently established by now

so what do you make of rayn's crazy if you're good at reading these things? oh wait i forgot you already made the strangest townread on him (or anyone) i think I've ever seen o.0

On March 11 2015 11:34 rsoultin wrote:
at reading your emotion? no not really lol

i'm good at figuring out exactly what you're trying to say (or knowing what to ask to figure it out) xP two different things

On March 11 2015 22:43 Koshi wrote:

I summed it up earlier.

rayn makes post around you I skimmed and not read.
damdred stonewall rayn but I don't really get why.
damdred makes a mistake.
rayn jumps on damdred his mistake.
damdred defends himself.
rayn is sure damdred is mafia.

On March 11 2015 22:54 prplhz wrote:

nice, i came in second

On March 11 2015 22:56 Koshi wrote:
Anybody recalls Eden making such a big listread in one of his mafia games?

On January 10 2015 15:45 Eden1892 wrote:

First thought is LOL at trying to do vca on this. Two wagons, one town, the other unknown, clear majority, only outlier vote is confirmed town b/c she was shot right afterward. No layups

In situations like these where the main wagon is town and we don't know the other wagon, we first want to look at the rationale people gave for their votes. The first person I notice is myself, because I didn't give any, because I'm a donkey and I slept through EOD and only managed to slap a fast vote down to avoid mod sanction. No johns, I suck, sorry guys.

Instead I'm going to look at the other people who coasted on the lead wagon.

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

Second is Oatsmaster, his case on Vayne is also not the correct case IMO. It's weird that it's the opposite of liancourt's, and that in the course of discussing this read neither one of them ended up arguing with the other about it. I guess maybe he didn't have to push as hard because Vayne became the lynch fairly quick, but it seems like he pretty much parked his vote and left.

===

Other notes:

- sicklucker and LightningStrike are probably town, they've both been pretty active and have pushed their lynch hard. I don't think either of the cases they made on their targets d1 were actually good, but I think they were genuine, which is all I need to see to make a read.

- Half the Sky looks reasonably good to me as well. The one thing irking me a bit is that she read me as town for making a "detailed case" on Vayne when I don't remember ever doing so, but it's obvious she cares about the direction of the game. Her interaction with sicklucker about the past game seems sincere enough - I know it's not directly relevant to this game, but I think the entire conversation reads town, go open her filter and find that bit and read for yourselves so you can see what I mean - and she's been rather open with her thoughts.

- batsnacks is sorta vulnerable to the same logic that implicates liancourt, but batsnacks still pushed reasonably hard on Obi while voting Vayne and tried to get a last-minute vote on Obi instead of Vayne. This strikes me as more of what I'd expect a townie to do if his primary suspect were off the table: go after a secondary one while taking his chances at getting the primary suspect killed instead. I also think he's been a lot more forthright and sincere than liancourt, so I find myself okay with batsnacks, even though to some extent he does the same thing that liancourt does.

- Obi already called out liancourt for the big thing I noticed earlier, so he's town in my mind for now. Obi does end up criticizing the VA lynch while staying on it, but if you read his filter it seems fairly clear that he got caught with insufficient time to figure out anything else to do due to out-of-game constraints. It's not like he peaced out from the thread and coasted. I can give him a pass on that.

===

That's all I feel like doing right now, I'll do more later on but this seems good enough to start with.

Town: me, Obi, HTS, SL, LS, bats
Mafia: Oats, lian
TBD: Breshke, lollipop, derg, Doc

On March 11 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote:
sadness :/

eden hasnt had me going town!eden for what its worth...i dont lile ppl who wont play with me :'(

On March 11 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh I forgot to tell you rsoultin: Sheep me baby girl!

On March 12 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
am I sheeping this Eden thing or what?

On March 12 2015 03:15 Koshi wrote:

nope. You have to actually present reads that go beyond meta.
You have to interact with your scumreads.

JAT enters thread, Eden is nowhere.
JAT leaves thread, Eden is back to complain.

*yawn*

On March 12 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=Eden1892&page=5

This page has way to much defensive and reactive stuff in it and almost nothing proactive and aggressive in it. One does not have to have many pages to show he wants to find his mafia and solve the game. But how many posts of Eden are about finding mafia?

We are approaching deadline and he is whining and not finding mafia. In the PM game he was also whining before we lynched him D1.

LS can you remember a game in which Eden whines and is town? Like constantly boohooing?

On March 12 2015 03:29 Eden1892 wrote:

I have work dumbass I already said that. Phone was taken away til break

I already talked about my relative lack of interaction. I was able to scum read JAT for a good reason without interacting with him. If he doesn't do anything to change his behavior then why would I need to interact with him further?

Also wtf is this about meta?
1) if meta works why do I need to do anything else?
2) my top scum read and my ray townread aren't meta based so I'm not doing just meta

Koshi you are making ridiculously unfair arguments that mostly don't even have a basis in reality. Please for the live if god stop

On February 21 2015 06:04 Eden1892 wrote:
My phone got taken away at work all y'all haters doubting my commitment can suck it

How is sicklucker doc tho. That's such bs

On February 21 2015 04:00 Koshi wrote:
I am not misrepresenting point 5. You are clearly staying out of the spotlight.

And it is a cold fact. You said to Oats that I was scum. And then you gave 5 reasons why I was town and why my read on snickers was good.

On March 12 2015 03:49 Eden1892 wrote:

Why the fuck wouldn't mafia hard-defend somebody, especially someone as notoriously easy to townread as you are? There is no reason mafia wouldn't do this.

Are you actually going to address the argument I made or is this just going to be a way to check "interaction" off the list so Koshi can't lead a bullshit witch hunt on you later? (if it's the latter I completely understand)

On March 12 2015 04:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay since the JAT lynch is getting some traction I don't mind switching since I was scumreading him earlier. Koshi's case on him is decent in my eyes.
##Unvote
##Vote: Justanothertownie

On March 12 2015 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't even know what to say to this. It probably doesn't even make him scum.

On March 12 2015 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:

shut the fuck up asshole i'm asking ls this question not you

On March 12 2015 04:52 LightningStrike wrote:

EBWOP: I mean rayn not Koshi....

On March 12 2015 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way we are lynching Eden. We are lynching justanothertownie.

JAT
There are three simple reasons for JAT being mafia.
(1) Koshi's post where he says "jat doesn't give that sort of townreads". This is true, asbolutely true. JAT as town is paranoid as fuck and basically NEVER townreads people for that little. Never.
(2) JAT is sorta defending me but never tries to find an alternative lynch. Go read his filter, does it look like he actually wants to lynch someone? Like this post:

is closest to a scumread he has given in this game. Which brings me to:
(3) He isn't actually doing anything. Like, he isn't pushing anything, he isn't giving any reads or thought processes on things. He is just fucking here. Lynch with fire.

On March 12 2015 05:26 Eden1892 wrote:

you probably should because i toned down the spam and bouncing around quite a bit relatively speaking

although i'm not getting why you didn't already notice that ls :|

On March 12 2015 05:31 rsoultin wrote:
LS I <3 you dude, but why are you so sure jat is scum :/ these two are making my head spin right now lol

On March 12 2015 06:02 justanothertownie wrote:

What does he gain as town? The answer is he isn't gaining anything regardless of his alignment which makes the claim not alignment indicative.

On March 12 2015 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have an opinion on Onegu?

marv please get back here. NOW!

On March 12 2015 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

He claimed VT though...

On March 12 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:
now that i am confirmed town can i just go back to my pickle debate?

On March 12 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:


come at me bro

#gauntlet

On March 12 2015 07:19 rsoultin wrote:


I am in fact a lady with boobs. not quite the smothery kind but they're noticeable xP

On March 12 2015 11:39 Damdred wrote:
More than likely it would be oneg or Eden to me ls. But most probable oneg

On March 12 2015 12:15 Damdred wrote:
Oneg filter is devoid of solving game not much thoughts besides rayn is town basically. Its also poe that leads me there.

Eden had some things I said earlier and his push off of jat onto ritoky still makes me lift my eyebrows a bit meh

On March 12 2015 12:48 Eden1892 wrote:
This is about where I am.

raynpelikoneet is confirmed town. This doesn't need explanation.

rsoultin is still confirmed town to me. She is the only person I would say I can read based on writing style with nearly-perfect accuracy. Studying her play when I coached her and then playing a few games with her, and getting to see her play as both alignments, has made me really good at making this read. If I try to push a tone read despite in-game evidence on anyone else then you can probably ignore me but do not make this mistake when I read rsoultin this way. I have gotten that good at it. (Yes I know lame digs about Horn of Africa go here, I've figured it out since then.)

Koshi is mega town. I might still be sleeping on his mafia game from a lack of experience with it, but this is night and day compared to his mafia games I've seen. He's heavily invested in all of the discussions going on and his scumhunting is really focused. I haven't liked the content of some of his pushes; I feel like he gets tunnel-vision and tends to depreciate his arguments. But it still all checks out. He also caught JAT, so there's that.

marvellosity is mega town. This is based mainly off of two things: our thought on prplhz and his interaction with JAT. Regarding prplhz we had a mindmeld, although the record isn't going to show that cleanly. You can find where marv asked aloud why prplhz was voting ray the entire day during this phase; I had the same thought right before I read him saying that, but I had to do something at work and couldn't post to confirm it until a little bit later. My mindmelds pretty much never happen with mafia and I refuse to lynch them.

The other bit that might be more convincing to the rest of y'all is his interaction with JAT. I described it as "kid gloves" - marv seemed unusually deferential and lenient on JAT when (IMO anyway) JAT wasn't playing well. It occurred to me that marv would really only do this as mafia if JAT were town. He doesn't want to look like he's reluctantly going with the flow when a partner is up for lynch; he either does his best to steer the lynch elsewhere or he commits to busing his partner, but he's almost scared to be in the middle ground where he's acknowledging that his partner looks bad but isn't trying to kill the partner. That's where I felt he was with JAT virtually the entire day.

I have to admit I've been unimpressed with his pushes thus far, but he doesn't have to do that to be town.

LightningStrike is probably town. His play this game just seems like typical town LightningStrike to me. Clear efforts to be helpful, original questioning, digging into previous games to cite evidence to support himself. I don't think I'm lynching him.

ritoky is probably town on further reflection. There seemed to be a brief window where the lynch was in question, with ray, ritoky and JAT as the three wagons. JAT was very animated about getting people who weren't committed against him or ray to vote for ritoky over him. I think it was Koshi who called it the "time when JAT had hope" of not being lynched, and he spent an awful lot of it trying to get ritoky lynched. The catch here is that JAT is the better scumsided player compared to ritoky pretty easily, and I'd think that in most cases a given scumteam would rather sac ritoky to save JAT than the reverse. (No offense ritoky, it's not that you're bad, it's that JAT has arguably the best scumside game of anyone currently active on TL Mafia.) So JAT busing isn't out of the question. And it's not like ritoky has played a scintillating obvtown game either. But the reason this is more likely town is simple - if the mafia team had decided to bus (which, if they're both mafia, JAT pushing ritoky hard = bus), why didn't ritoky push to get JAT lynched? It's too glaring an inconsistency to ignore, so I think ritoky is probably town.

prplhz is an anomaly. He was the first one to call out JAT on his town reads, which stuck out to me because it was a pretty insightful point that turned out to be correct. He also had a couple of pretty insightful interjections into some heated debates. (My bias is showing here, but at one point Koshi and LS were calling me a liar and mafia respectively for saying my phone was taken away at work, and prplhz was the only person with the common sense to say "or maybe he's saying this cause it's the truth.") But he's also had sparse thread presence, and despite making an insightful observation about JAT's early townreads, he proceeds never to actually vote JAT and afk's onto the now-confirmed medic. He's in my POE lynch list but I'm hoping I can get some more out of him d2.

Palmar is a complete null right now and will probably remain that way until he starts playing for real. I'm looking elsewhere for my targets tomorrow but if he gets lynched tomorrow that wouldn't bother me.

Onegu is a complete null right now and will probably remain that way until he starts playing for real. I'm looking elsewhere for my targets tomorrow but if he gets lynched tomorrow that wouldn't bother me.

Damdred still seems like a pretty good pick for mafia. I still feel that the core of my case against him during d1 stands. His flip on me seems fabricated to fit thread sentiment; it's really bizarre that a player as generally attentive and precise as Damdred is (when town) could just look at my big reads list and immediately call it really townie, then suddenly realize he didn't notice all of the "problems" with it and think that my filter is actually really bad. He kept harping on some question I allegedly didn't answer back in the first half of d1, but then when we're talking last night he asks me about rsoultin and then never actually broaches the question from before. Seems like if it were so important that he scumread me for not answering it that he would ask it directly again to try to get an answer, no? I also felt like he was insufficiently uncertain with his town reads early in the game; there's no meta point for me to raise like prplhz did with JAT, but he called a lot of people town really fast. He had a pretty solid vote count analysis that he posted earlier and the only thing missing to wrap it up was that he's mafia lol. I think I'm lynching this guy tomorrow.

On March 12 2015 21:28 Koshi wrote:

there is no sane reason.

On March 12 2015 21:31 marvellosity wrote:
There was a game recently where mafia (Holyflare) counterclaimed another mafia (I forget who) who was up for the lynch, and even at the time it happened I said it.

Obviously this game is different but there is precedent for that sort of thing anyway.

Still think it's more likely rayn is town though. Because he set himself up with a big target on his back. Unless he was genuinely scared the alternative (if there was no cc) was him, but I don't really like that argument

On March 12 2015 23:22 Koshi wrote:

Who will present it?

On March 12 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:

right, he made an early toneread on me when I wasn't feeling like playing, and so I stopped entirely.

the fact is Palmar always realises I am mafia in 2 ways

1. I slip something tonally early, normally when i do not have the energy to play (e.g. metal)
2. he has an unsettling feeling about me for a long period of time and eventually he realises it means I am mafia (Imperial)

here it seems he thinks he has actual reasons, and they are bound to be bad.

I think Horn Mafia was the first game ever Palmar gave me a hard townread on D1-N1 when I hadn't directly lynched mafia on D1. And the funny thing is, really there is very little difference between how i play there and here (I would say none, but I'm sure someone could find a thing or two and go na-na-na-na).

On March 12 2015 23:32 Koshi wrote:
I don't have faith in humanity.

On March 12 2015 23:38 Palmar wrote:

It's not me who knows.

It's koshi.

On March 12 2015 23:40 Koshi wrote:

i don't see anybody except rayn make a case that isn't about Damdred. So marv should. But he is waiting. And I don't know on who.

On March 12 2015 23:56 Koshi wrote:
You know why marv is mafia? If he was town he would be making case after case so he would get shot and could visit Mr. Marshal.

On March 13 2015 00:19 Palmar wrote:
marv confirmed mafia.

On March 13 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

not true Koshi. She said something that was really clever i hadn't even thought about.

On March 13 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:

I can't they will come for me.

On March 13 2015 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike i remember reading you asked me (and Koshi) why marv is mafia or something like that.
I don't think marv is mafia so i can't answer that. Why were you even asking that? I have never called marv mafia in this game.

On March 13 2015 00:51 marvellosity wrote:

I don't really know, I wasn't really reading his posts. What do you think?

On March 13 2015 00:55 Koshi wrote:

I feel like Onegu shouldn't know that rayn is town if he is 50 pages behind.

On March 13 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
I wouldn't mind a vigi shooting me either tbh. i really want out.

On March 13 2015 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i think there is a chance purplehaze is mafia, because Palmar says so.
But Palmar does not look very townie either. I know in general him trolling is not alignment indicative but this game has a pretty impressive playerbase and it looks like he just doesn't give any fucks.

So i don't know. I don't think Damdred is mafia either. When i stopped posting the night before he had a set of posts i found really townie. Now everyone is calling him mafia when i read him town. I have no idea why.

On March 13 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:

when? can you show me?

On March 13 2015 04:42 Palmar wrote:
Rsoultin and Marv and rayn and Eden scum team

Koshi knows

On March 13 2015 04:48 prplhz wrote:

maybe even 2

On March 13 2015 04:55 Damdred wrote:
Ls do you think I'm scum? You've asked a ton but what's your opinion

On March 13 2015 05:02 Koshi wrote:
If I am dieing tonight I will be so pissed.

On March 13 2015 05:05 Koshi wrote:
LS. Chances are you will survive a long time.

Please.

Please.

Lynch marv after 2 town misslynches.

On March 13 2015 05:12 Koshi wrote:

I don't know about him. I can see him be mafia. But I don't know. I don't know anything this game except that rsoultin is the best shot on mafia and Damdred is town.

But if marv survives 3 nights he is mafia. Please just lynch him. And spread the word.

On March 13 2015 08:05 Palmar wrote:

So you decided just to hard it now lol?

On March 13 2015 08:07 Palmar wrote:

which blue claim?

On March 13 2015 10:05 Damdred wrote:
Why in the world did you block raoultin? You clearly were tr him?

On March 13 2015 10:12 Koshi wrote:
3 blues is not OP against 2 red power roles. it is 9 vs 3 after all. LS you shouldn't really have claimed I think. But what Palmar is doing doesn't make any sense and I think he needs to die.

It's not that he is trolling. This is beyond that. This is mafia.

On March 13 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:

Let's see why would Mafia have a Godfather or a Framer if there is no Cop? Chances are very slim thus leaves us with the typical Roleblocker and 2 Goons setup we all familiar with. We lynch Palmar and if he comes back Town I'm fucked unless I found Mafia and roleblocked them from killing me.

On March 13 2015 10:17 Koshi wrote:

Or you get docsaved
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I dnu.

doc + rb seems a bit insane.

On March 13 2015 10:26 Koshi wrote:
So mafia shot rsoultin. I don't even know on what planet I am living. There was a pretty legit docclaim.

On March 13 2015 10:30 prplhz wrote:

what would you gain from roleblocking a scum rso? what chance did you take and how did it bite you in the ass?

On March 13 2015 10:35 prplhz wrote:

do you mean "prevent a night kill"?

On March 13 2015 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
From the other game:


Remind anyone of anything?

On March 13 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:

he was under pressure, he literally said "let's stop this nonsense right now" while people were discussing him as possibly mafia.

It is also not difficult to claim VT as mafia. You go "hi I am VT"

On March 12 2015 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Everyone is listing you as scum but noone is pushing or voting you.

On March 14 2015 00:09 marvellosity wrote:

I don't quite understand what you're saying, could you rewrite for me?

On March 14 2015 00:21 Koshi wrote:
ritoky rayn mafia team? OoOoOoOoOoOo

On March 14 2015 00:54 Koshi wrote:

Your only ability is to stop Framers and NK. There isn't going to be a doc AND a rb in a mini. NEVER EVER

On March 14 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, LightningStrike, what i am does not help you in any way in this course at this point.
It might come handy later on and i WILL claim my role if i need to. There is zero need now.

On March 14 2015 23:12 Koshi wrote:
I wasn't ranting.