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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:00 GMT
#1381
On March 12 2015 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 03:29 Eden1892 wrote:
I already talked about my relative lack of interaction. I was able to scum read JAT for a good reason without interacting with him. If he doesn't do anything to change his behavior then why would I need to interact with him further?

Because if you are town you can never be sure. If you are scum you only need one reason to justify your vote though.
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm ready to quit TL mafia rn
So fucking mad. People aren't giving me any chance to improve my game without giving up my mislynch streak. Why the fuck even play?

Might be a case for dickmove analysis.
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 03:39 Eden1892 wrote:
If I can't be townread without spamming the game to unplayable levels then fuck y'all I'm spamming the game to unplayable levels

I am NOT getting mislynched, now or ever

This is not true. If you are town you can play really well and be townread without being ridiculously spammy -> imperial.

Sure I can't be 100% sure I guess? I don't get what that means. As town I might only need one reason to justify my vote. This happened with Artanis in Student VI, and all my pestering him to do stuff just made people mad about spam and did nothing to get him to do anything, so it just ended up being a waste. If my read is that someone is mafia for not trying to scumhunt, and they continue to not scumhunt, why do I need to do anything else?

What do you mean by dickmove analysis?

And not anymore I can't, apparently. I played Imperial before my last bout of spammy games so no one had the expectation of it. Now they do, which I guess is fair, but when I explicitly give reasons for why I'm not as spammy and I still remain highly productive (as I believe I am, and no one has actually tried to argue otherwise with any strength), I think it's fair to expect that people don't stick their faces 12 inches up their assholes and refuse to acknowledge this and keep scumreading me for shit reasons.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 11 2015 19:01 GMT
#1382
I've literally 100% said what I found bad about your filter Eden, reading thread and going that post looks good is one thing but your filter is bad.

You lack conviction, you drop things fast. You are 100% sure on JAT being mafia at points but drop it to now go after me who nobody is pushing.

Either way you are ignoring the thread to try to make other people look bad

On March 11 2015 22:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 22:31 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not entirely sure whether eden is capable of that long post he made as mafia

i mean it wasn't the most impressive piece of work ever, but it wasn't bad either


Heres the problem I have with that post Marv. He spends most of the post only talking about town reads, their is a ritoky scum read in which he goes back on to maybe ritoky is town for another one of his pickle posts?

And he says hes voting for JAT earlier he says its pressure but gives no further explanation in the big post why JAT is scum to him, but gives all these reasons why x is town. Its just weird to me his filter is kind of devoid of scum hunting while at the same time gives 100% town reads .

Drops the vote on me effortlessly because of one question I asked and still avoided the question I asked him.

Like hes just to sure about Rsoultin, for example when I asked him if I was right or wrong about Rsoultin being super wishy washy etc., and he says i'm not wrong but hes still 100% town. Rsoultin is a good mafia I think, and I don't think I could give rsoultin a 100% town read at that point.

And his weird Rayn is town thing when there was no real reason to think rayn had been thinking about the thread?

it all is just really weird

Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:03 GMT
#1383
On March 12 2015 04:01 Damdred wrote:
I've literally 100% said what I found bad about your filter Eden, reading thread and going that post looks good is one thing but your filter is bad.

You lack conviction, you drop things fast. You are 100% sure on JAT being mafia at points but drop it to now go after me who nobody is pushing.

Either way you are ignoring the thread to try to make other people look bad

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 22:40 Damdred wrote:
On March 11 2015 22:31 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not entirely sure whether eden is capable of that long post he made as mafia

i mean it wasn't the most impressive piece of work ever, but it wasn't bad either


Heres the problem I have with that post Marv. He spends most of the post only talking about town reads, their is a ritoky scum read in which he goes back on to maybe ritoky is town for another one of his pickle posts?

And he says hes voting for JAT earlier he says its pressure but gives no further explanation in the big post why JAT is scum to him, but gives all these reasons why x is town. Its just weird to me his filter is kind of devoid of scum hunting while at the same time gives 100% town reads .

Drops the vote on me effortlessly because of one question I asked and still avoided the question I asked him.

Like hes just to sure about Rsoultin, for example when I asked him if I was right or wrong about Rsoultin being super wishy washy etc., and he says i'm not wrong but hes still 100% town. Rsoultin is a good mafia I think, and I don't think I could give rsoultin a 100% town read at that point.

And his weird Rayn is town thing when there was no real reason to think rayn had been thinking about the thread?

it all is just really weird


That was all true when you called it a really town post. How did you somehow miss all this and then conveniently pick it back up once Koshi decided I was mafia?

And how the FUCK are you gonna scumread me for "dropping things too fast" (which I'm not even sure is true but w/e) when you were SCUMREADING ME FOR NOT MOVING AROUND ENOUGH EARLIER????

And why did you say I dodged the question on rsoultin and then say I answered it? What's actually wrong with my rsoultin read?

You are so fucking mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:03 GMT
#1384
And this bad-faith comment: "ignoring the thread to make people look bad"

BULLSHIT. I went back and quoted our entire exchange. Your post there still doesn't answer how it is that you miss everything "bad" about my post and then conveniently notice it after Koshi started pushing me
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2015 19:04 GMT
#1385
On March 12 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2015 03:29 Eden1892 wrote:
I already talked about my relative lack of interaction. I was able to scum read JAT for a good reason without interacting with him. If he doesn't do anything to change his behavior then why would I need to interact with him further?

Because if you are town you can never be sure. If you are scum you only need one reason to justify your vote though.
On March 12 2015 03:31 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm ready to quit TL mafia rn
So fucking mad. People aren't giving me any chance to improve my game without giving up my mislynch streak. Why the fuck even play?

Might be a case for dickmove analysis.
On March 12 2015 03:39 Eden1892 wrote:
If I can't be townread without spamming the game to unplayable levels then fuck y'all I'm spamming the game to unplayable levels

I am NOT getting mislynched, now or ever

This is not true. If you are town you can play really well and be townread without being ridiculously spammy -> imperial.

Sure I can't be 100% sure I guess? I don't get what that means. As town I might only need one reason to justify my vote. This happened with Artanis in Student VI, and all my pestering him to do stuff just made people mad about spam and did nothing to get him to do anything, so it just ended up being a waste. If my read is that someone is mafia for not trying to scumhunt, and they continue to not scumhunt, why do I need to do anything else?

What do you mean by dickmove analysis?

And not anymore I can't, apparently. I played Imperial before my last bout of spammy games so no one had the expectation of it. Now they do, which I guess is fair, but when I explicitly give reasons for why I'm not as spammy and I still remain highly productive (as I believe I am, and no one has actually tried to argue otherwise with any strength), I think it's fair to expect that people don't stick their faces 12 inches up their assholes and refuse to acknowledge this and keep scumreading me for shit reasons.

Dickmove analysis = I don't know if you are enough of an asshole to say something like "I want to quit TL" as mafia. Makes me doubtful.

You don't need to pester me to do stuff - I already explained that this isn't productive anyways but interacting/asking questions etc. is the least I would expect from town Eden.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:06 GMT
#1386
Damdred is 100% mafia

1) Townread me early without any of his usual town paranoia (see Student VI for an example of this, the guy was skeptical of my alignment until I flipped even in obs chat)
2) Townread me for my big reads post that he said he "liked a lot"
3) As soon as Koshi says he doesn't like me anymore he decides I'm mafia and wow how did he miss all this?
4) He doesn't bother to interact with me to get my reasoning on anything, he just says now it's mafia instead of talking TO ME about why he doesn't like my reads
5) Bad-faith bullshit like "you're ignoring the thread to make people look bad" which just isn't true

Lynch this guy
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2015 19:08 GMT
#1387
On March 12 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred is 100% mafia

1) Townread me early without any of his usual town paranoia (see Student VI for an example of this, the guy was skeptical of my alignment until I flipped even in obs chat)
2) Townread me for my big reads post that he said he "liked a lot"
3) As soon as Koshi says he doesn't like me anymore he decides I'm mafia and wow how did he miss all this?
4) He doesn't bother to interact with me to get my reasoning on anything, he just says now it's mafia instead of talking TO ME about why he doesn't like my reads
5) Bad-faith bullshit like "you're ignoring the thread to make people look bad" which just isn't true

Lynch this guy

lolololol
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 11 2015 19:10 GMT
#1388
Eden is wrong on so many things. Did I even voted him once? I just put him on an PoE list. Which he deserved to be on.

hmm.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 11 2015 19:11 GMT
#1389
Koshi sheep me man sheep me and the others on voting Eden!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:11 GMT
#1390
39 minutes into this game:
On March 10 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
I think Edens has a good shot to be town here. So four so far XD

On March 10 2015 10:46 Damdred wrote:
Yeah its a clear tell I shouldn't of backed off of. Anyway, I think RS and Eden are town ls do you disagree


First few hrs into Student VI:
On February 24 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:
Hts I think Eden is Scum. You didagree

On February 24 2015 11:44 Damdred wrote:
Eden you feel so disconnected and out of it right now. I'm really really worrying you rolled scum with hts

Same type of opening from me. When he's town, paranoia, thinks I'm mafia because I'm "disconnected and out of it," in this game, he has me as "good shot to be town" right away and "thinks [I'm] town" a few hrs in

I even commented on this earlier
On March 11 2015 01:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred townread me too easily for him too

I backed off cuz I'm retarded and a hyperactive cocaine squirrel herpderp wow edens so bad isnt it fun to shit on him???

Everything else I already explained

Lynch with fire
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 11 2015 19:11 GMT
#1391
Like, Eden is lying a lot. Saying things that are 100% incorrect. Saying things that he should know if he read the thread even semi carefully.

Saying we are lynching him because he isn't an angry squirrel is wrong. 1 person brought it up. That's it.


That being said. I am still not lynching Eden. Which I have been saying for ages now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 11 2015 19:12 GMT
#1392
Ummm you did ignore my question which has nothing to do with the question about rsoultin...

Anyway I've never said I scum read you for not jumping around like a crazy rabbit or something, that's untrue and I wasn't even in thread when that was being discussed.

A post can look towny and look scummy in a different light, just like it looks good having good town reads but when you don't scum hunt? And your only scum reads fall away so fast? Yeaaa not really a towny mindset to me.

Honestly I can decide if someone is scum or not by reading filter after 48 hours if things don't add up I say its weird and it is.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:12 GMT
#1393
On March 12 2015 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred is 100% mafia

1) Townread me early without any of his usual town paranoia (see Student VI for an example of this, the guy was skeptical of my alignment until I flipped even in obs chat)
2) Townread me for my big reads post that he said he "liked a lot"
3) As soon as Koshi says he doesn't like me anymore he decides I'm mafia and wow how did he miss all this?
4) He doesn't bother to interact with me to get my reasoning on anything, he just says now it's mafia instead of talking TO ME about why he doesn't like my reads
5) Bad-faith bullshit like "you're ignoring the thread to make people look bad" which just isn't true

Lynch this guy

lolololol

Bruh I know, but it's different

...not ALL that different but it is. If you're gonna scumread people for having reads you don't like then you should probably question them to understand how they got their reads, right? It IS different from "he has no reads so I scumread him"

Don't be obtuse about this please, I really do think it's different and not totally hypocritical
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:13 GMT
#1394
On March 12 2015 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Like, Eden is lying a lot. Saying things that are 100% incorrect. Saying things that he should know if he read the thread even semi carefully.

Saying we are lynching him because he isn't an angry squirrel is wrong. 1 person brought it up. That's it.


That being said. I am still not lynching Eden. Which I have been saying for ages now.

I am not lying, wtf is wrong with you? Learn what the word means. I might be wrong about some things (though I don't think I am? and can't know without you explaining) but I am not lying
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 11 2015 19:13 GMT
#1395
I am lynching JAT and am willing to celebrity lynch Palmar or submissive lynch rayn. But not really rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2015 19:14 GMT
#1396
On March 12 2015 04:12 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred is 100% mafia

1) Townread me early without any of his usual town paranoia (see Student VI for an example of this, the guy was skeptical of my alignment until I flipped even in obs chat)
2) Townread me for my big reads post that he said he "liked a lot"
3) As soon as Koshi says he doesn't like me anymore he decides I'm mafia and wow how did he miss all this?
4) He doesn't bother to interact with me to get my reasoning on anything, he just says now it's mafia instead of talking TO ME about why he doesn't like my reads
5) Bad-faith bullshit like "you're ignoring the thread to make people look bad" which just isn't true

Lynch this guy

lolololol

Bruh I know, but it's different

...not ALL that different but it is. If you're gonna scumread people for having reads you don't like then you should probably question them to understand how they got their reads, right? It IS different from "he has no reads so I scumread him"

Don't be obtuse about this please, I really do think it's different and not totally hypocritical

Are you seriously asking your mafia read to "not be obtuse about this"?
???

Your case on damdred is not the worst though.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 11 2015 19:14 GMT
#1397
On March 12 2015 04:13 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Like, Eden is lying a lot. Saying things that are 100% incorrect. Saying things that he should know if he read the thread even semi carefully.

Saying we are lynching him because he isn't an angry squirrel is wrong. 1 person brought it up. That's it.


That being said. I am still not lynching Eden. Which I have been saying for ages now.

I am not lying, wtf is wrong with you? Learn what the word means. I might be wrong about some things (though I don't think I am? and can't know without you explaining) but I am not lying

Well. You are wrong on a lot of things.

Fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2015 19:15 GMT
#1398
##unvote
##vote marv


100 % mafia.

I'll explain when in front of a computer.
Computer says mafia
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 19:15 GMT
#1399
On March 12 2015 04:12 Damdred wrote:
Ummm you did ignore my question which has nothing to do with the question about rsoultin...

Anyway I've never said I scum read you for not jumping around like a crazy rabbit or something, that's untrue and I wasn't even in thread when that was being discussed.

A post can look towny and look scummy in a different light, just like it looks good having good town reads but when you don't scum hunt? And your only scum reads fall away so fast? Yeaaa not really a towny mindset to me.

Honestly I can decide if someone is scum or not by reading filter after 48 hours if things don't add up I say its weird and it is.

What other question then? Wtf is this

And what are you talking about with "different light"? How about actually explaining why you initially thought it was townie and what changed? You're just bullshitting here until you do

Fucking lynch this guy he's so scum
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 11 2015 19:15 GMT
#1400
Celebrity lynch marv incoming?
I had a good night of sleep.
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