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LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

March 10 2015 23:37 GMT

#981

On March 11 2015 08:27 justanothertownie wrote:

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You are wrong though.
Could you please explain what you were talking about earlier when you said your case on me from horn could be applied in this game?

Your tone is very similar being angry all the time practically.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

March 10 2015 23:40 GMT

#982

On March 11 2015 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:

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Your tone is very similar being angry all the time practically.

This is not true. At least not when you said this:

On March 11 2015 02:42 LightningStrike wrote:

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But the quotes weren't from this game though. Anyways this was my Meta Case on JAT being Mafia in Horn of Africa:

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On February 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I'm back and now I bring the case on why JAT is confirmed Mafia. Now lets start with my first piece of evidence his case on HF on page 15 of his filter:

On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.

On February 05 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if i'm honest I'm probably more sure about rs than damdy

On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

On February 05 2015 10:10 Holyflare wrote:

On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.

it is what it is, rsoul has literally posted nothing all game and it hasn't really changed i don't care what your gut tells you or not

On February 06 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:

On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:

On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me.

Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players.

I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...

I'm more inclined to vote rs tbh

But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:

On February 06 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
let's kill oneguuuuuuuuuu

if i'm wrong you can flame me for wasting your time

On February 06 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
abandon wagon ABANDON WAGON

SHEEP TO DAMDRED OR I LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

On February 06 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
god this breshke is actually 100% mafia or something

Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:

On February 06 2015 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny how rsoul just appeared at deadline to vote onegu and then completely disappeared again so probably 100% breshke/jat/rsoul

So, I point this out and this is his reaction:

On February 07 2015 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
How have I treated rs? I've thought she was mafia all game and at deadline onegu was way more convincing mafia but then he wasn't mafia so i went back to talking about rs being mafia?

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:

On February 07 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not he said my read progression is damning because I drop it when I haven't

And then the real gem comes:

On February 07 2015 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also going to preemptively defend myself from a jat onslaught by saying i wasn't invested in this game at all until deadline so my rs read isn't very concrete compared to reads i was making in real time then. Seeing as I was mostly trolling, apart from the nagging what if on damdred.

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.

On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it

Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?

On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling

I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me.

On February 06 2015 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still 100% lynching jat though he's done a void all over again where he avoids all the wagons and reasoning while still agreeing with it. He did the exact same thing in heavyweight too.

Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.

Then his defense against me:

On February 07 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
It's absolutely not irrelevant because do you see him talking about rsoul at deadline? Absolutely not so if he is town then why does his read make sense to him when he did the same thing?

This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread.

On February 07 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:

On February 07 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't

so.

Rsoul has been in his poe list and someone he could have lynched the entire game and he barely ever commented on her

Like it doesn't matter anyway because his read is totally irrelevant if you read the deadline and if it's his only proper read this game when it should be pretty damn easy to poe the majority of mafia then he doesn't have much hope

Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him.

On February 07 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
which is a pain because my effort level is low and i know jat is just going to whine and make it difficult to lynch him

He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight.

Now if you looked in Void Mafia he was just as aggressive towards HF at Pages 1,2, and 3 of his filter on these same type of behavior towards a different player named Half the Sky before turned his attention to his scum read Marv in that game. Also note his behavior after HF backed off of JAT , JAT started to like him in Void Mafia at page 4.
From Void Mafia:

On January 21 2015 04:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

On January 20 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:

On January 20 2015 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
I'm pretty confident on one mafia, but you're gonna have to wait for those pearls of wisdom until tomorrow.

P.S. I thought HF was leaning town already due to how he backed off his Wile push.

^
I liked that too but he would've made himself look pretty awful had he kept pushing.

Now if you look at his behavior regarding the votes on him or prssure on him he just attacked everyone including me and HF in this game. He did similar behavior throughout Void Mafia as scum and here is a convenient quote that JAT also in this game when someone mention him as scum in void Mafia when Koshi was town:

On January 23 2015 08:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

On January 23 2015 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Tomorrow I sheep HF. Just got to check he isnt as crazy as I was in the previous game. Maybe lynch Wile and then HTS. But hts will have to go soon.

no comment

and now here's some similar type of quotes from this game:

On February 09 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 09 2015 03:09 Holyflare wrote:
I still think it's jat :p

No comment.

On February 09 2015 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 09 2015 02:52 batsnacks wrote:

On February 09 2015 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden.

DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO.

jat is mafia too?

That's the part where it gets ridiculous.

Notice how he got angry on people wanting to lynch him throughout this game and in void he displayed the same behavior. When I played with him in Metal Mini he didn't seem to get mad as easily as this game and was activly solve the game there too.

Some of it can be applied here I think but not much tbh but would still lynch him this game.

Because until Koshi started tunneling me like a moron I was evidently in a pretty good mood.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2015 23:41 GMT

#983

lol @ weird phrasing

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

March 10 2015 23:42 GMT

#984

On March 11 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is mafia because:
- He said i did something that's incorrect, therefore i am mafia. Then he corrected himself which makes his accusation invalid in the first place but he doesn't correct his conclusion. If he had an explanation to this he would have told it already.

So that's the basic accusation ^

It stems from this:

On March 11 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pretty much noone thought prplhz was mafia on D1. I was pretty much the only person (maybe Robik did?) to think he is mafia on D2. While my read on prplhz from the beginning is shit anyways i notice obvious scumtells. Now LS' read on prplhz on N2 was this:

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I actually misread his filter a bit, this was from N2 not D2 as i claimed. Anyways my point still stands.
He did read prplhz town on N2, after my flip.

rayn quotes a post saying that LS is townreading prplhz. But Damdred rebuts:

On March 11 2015 03:02 Damdred wrote:

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On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
My entire thought process for now:
Confirmed Town: Blazinghand, Superbia, Half the Sky.
Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz.
POE META: Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred.
Reason for each one of them:
Fecalfeast looks like he did in Slytherin Mafia although he looked worse than that game when I first read him but his read on me is bad

Palmar: Palmar being Palmar I heard he doesn’t try when he’s Mafia and he been trying this game since the weekend when he normally cba on the weekend.
Rsoultin: I know her pretty well and the last time she was Mafia she was reading very weird that entire game but this game she just been calling town and been standing her ground like she normally does <3
Damdred: Despite coming in late he looking like himself being very decisive which he was every time I played with him but I never played with him when he was Mafia though but he doensn’t really look like his scum game in Imperial which is a semi recent game that got a Mafia victory.
Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me which 4 Mafia and 1 SK is 5 players and I got 5 and Robik might have been a wrong meta read which I taking into account for this and the fact he been tunneling the shit out of me and Slam is mostly unreadable for me this game and the last I couldn’t read him he was Mafia in Slytherin so I think he might be Mafia this game on meta for me. Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. Prplhz he might be a vet as far I’m concerned and if he is one he looks really bad like Gobble bad meaning he could be mafia with very poor play and he doesn’t look very townie this game. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone.

Like if you are going to try to incrimidate someone by saying after I flipped he thinks damdred is town quote the whole fucking post

Now this is where the fun begins. Damdred uses the wrong names, but the point is clear (I say it's clear, it's clear in the context after I've thought about it) - LS was not townreading prplhz in the PART of the post that rayn quoted. The *rest* of the post goes on to explain how in fact prplhz is one of his scumreads.

So Damdred is angry because rayn is representing LS as townreading prplhz by cutting off a post, when the rest of the post makes it clear he was not.

The reason I just said "the point is clear" is because all of rayn's attack on LS was based on LS's read on prplhz. Damdred obviously didn't mean LS's read on Damdred, because that hasn't even been mentioned once up to that point in the thread. To note, Damdred is still right: rayn claims that LS was mafia-reading Damdred, when he was not

On March 11 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is here claiming he was so good, his case was so good, and everything. Yeah well, it happened on D4. Two days after.. And i am not sure if he honestly didn't took a look at my reads because he SHEEPED DAMDRED onto me, then when i got lynched Damdred is suddenly scum. It doesn't make any sense unless he took a look at my reads.

And frankly it is ludicrous to even conjure a mafia motivation for Damdred suddenly talking about LS's read on Damdred rather than prplhz. sense not makes it. So to continue:

On March 11 2015 03:03 Damdred wrote:
Or rather after rayn flips he thinks i'm scum

which isn't the case if you read the post

Damdred makes this incorrect correction, because again it's about rayn and prplhz (although what Damdred says is still right). Two things here:

1. According to rayn's original reading of the cut-off LS post, it would look like LS is reading Damdred scum (which he wasn't)
2. Again there is no reason for mafia Damdred to suddenly make the read about him when he hadn't been mentioned. Damdred just picked on the wrong thing

On March 11 2015 03:05 Damdred wrote:
Like seriously if you read the post you can see that LS says prp looks horrible and is on his anti-town list or whatever which he explains as such like two posts later to ritoky.

Seriously rayn?

Damdred back to talking about the LS-prplhz stuff.

Back to the original accusation:

On March 11 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is mafia because:
- He said i did something that's incorrect, therefore i am mafia. Then he corrected himself which makes his accusation invalid in the first place but he doesn't correct his conclusion. If he had an explanation to this he would have told it already.

This is just untrue. Damdred's (baddish) correction did not invalidate his accusation.

The fact of the matter is that rayn did take an LS post, said it was reading prplhz town, when LS wasn't. Damdred's point was correct.

Go back and read for yourself - the quote is just above in this post, Damdred is angry for rayn misrepresenting what LS said, and he's right!

Right now I'm not saying that this means anything about rayn, I'm saying Damdred's accusation was not false, it was correct, in both facets. His correction did not make what he said invalid.

Nothing Damdred said was actually inconsistent here.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

March 10 2015 23:42 GMT

#985

On March 11 2015 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
still working on this post lol

I can't stay up all night...

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

March 10 2015 23:44 GMT

#986

I am reading all it tomorrow myself.

Onegu

United States9695 Posts

March 10 2015 23:44 GMT

#987

On March 11 2015 06:59 Koshi wrote:
Damdred = Onegu.

Claimed VT. I'm not scum... can't you people read? I don't lie as scum... Also I'm not blue this game...

Also I have this formula that I can't talk about because it was created in a ongoing game, but it has to do.with the amount of said chupazi, svengali, and HIJOLE slam says. And since I'm on page like 30 something and he hasn't said those words yet slam is scum.

Also Rayn soul read incoming.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

March 10 2015 23:45 GMT

#988

WHO THE FUCK HASN4T CALLED SLAM SCUM YET?

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

March 10 2015 23:45 GMT

#989

LIKE NOBODY EVEN READS HIM TOWN. THEY ALL SCUMREAD A GUY WHO ISN4T EVEN IN THE GAME. HOW THE FUCK

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

March 10 2015 23:46 GMT

#990

I use caps because I find it HILARIOUS.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

March 10 2015 23:47 GMT

#991

Onegu confirmed not reading the thread.

also read and understand what i wrote. it will make your life easier because otherwise you will take forever trying to piece it together yourselves.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

March 10 2015 23:47 GMT

#992

lol

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2015 23:48 GMT

#993

lolol

we should just all vote slam

this is totes a thing

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

March 10 2015 23:48 GMT

#994

I appreciate the effort marv but this has been rather disappointing.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

March 10 2015 23:49 GMT

#995

where's your footnote giving me my credit marv?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2015 23:49 GMT

#996

kinda already came to the conclusion that it was miscommunication 101 and rayn's scumread was NOT ADMISSABLE in RSOUL COURT lol

but thanks for making it clear to the masses, marv

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

March 10 2015 23:50 GMT

#997

On March 11 2015 08:48 justanothertownie wrote:
I appreciate the effort marv but this has been rather disappointing.

why is it disappointing?

at the very least we now know rayn's accusation on damdred there is incorrect.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

March 10 2015 23:51 GMT

#998

On March 11 2015 08:49 ritoky wrote:
where's your footnote giving me my credit marv?

because how you presented it was not right. at all.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

March 10 2015 23:52 GMT

#999

On March 11 2015 08:50 marvellosity wrote:

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why is it disappointing?

at the very least we now know rayn's accusation on damdred there is incorrect.

It is dissapointing because it does not tell us that much about their alignment.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 10 2015 23:52 GMT

#1000

On March 11 2015 08:46 Koshi wrote:
I use caps because I find it HILARIOUS.

Tbh since I called him scum 1st we should find ppl who sheeped me. They are probably mafia.

Also JAT is mafia cuz he wasn't doing anything proactively. Even when he wasn't defending himself (which is obviously excused) all of his posts were covering older ground or responding to others' queries instead of raising his own. Town JAT would have had some leads he wanted to pursue after catchup. Imo

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