• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:48
CEST 10:48
KST 17:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 237Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague BSL Season 23 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11368 users

XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+) - Page 38

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 41 Next All
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:13 GMT
#6034
i'm trying to figure out the graceful failure mode for koshi if he's wrong here. does anybody see it?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:14 GMT
#6037
On March 21 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:11 Eden1892 wrote:
god i really wish koshi didn't basically have a confirmed-town pass

Let's pinky swear to lynch koshi together next time we get the chance in a game.

nah, cuz we have the "chance" right now and i don't feel like gamethrowing

but we gonna talk postgame. chill koshi

No I mean next game.

I don't think lynching him right now is viable.

I just want to randomly day 1 lynch him for being a bit of a dick.

oh

lol

maybe but i don't think i'll have the fire for it by next game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:15 GMT
#6039
On March 21 2015 00:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:09 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Do not ever lynch Palmar until someone rebuts his big townie case.
Do not ever lynch marv because if there's a framer it's prplhz.
Do not ever lynch Koshi because he never fakeclaims cop there.
Probably do not ever lynch prplhz because it's doubtful there is a framer. If ray is town then lynch him but only if ray is town.

Eden wants to lynch prplhz before Palmar.

well yeah but that's not right now, that's after ray flips. not the same thing as what you said.

now quit being a fucking dick, koshi

STFU YOU FUCK

STFU

THIS IS FUCKING NOW. THIS WAS YOUR GOODBYE POST. THIS IS FUCKING THE REALITY IN WHICH YOU ARE LIVING AND YOU TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELVES AND IN THE SAME POST WRITE THIS. THIS FUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE.

ray hasn't flipped yet so... no

It literally says;

When rayn flips town, lynch prplhz.

SO YOU SAY LYNCH PRPLHZ BEFORE PALMAR.


NOTHING I SAY IS UNTRUE


You are fucking impossible to work with. You don't fucking use any form of logic.

no it literally says "if"

and you said i wanted to lynch the cop and his greenchecks. i have one greencheck as a maybe lynch which doesn't even matter much cuz i think a non-greencheck is mafia. where's your logic?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:18 GMT
#6043
shower and work, i broke my no-check-in rule but idk how much i'm gonna be checking this thread today. leave any questions here and i'll do my best to check em
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:19 GMT
#6047
On March 21 2015 00:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:16 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:15 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:09 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Do not ever lynch Palmar until someone rebuts his big townie case.
Do not ever lynch marv because if there's a framer it's prplhz.
Do not ever lynch Koshi because he never fakeclaims cop there.
Probably do not ever lynch prplhz because it's doubtful there is a framer. If ray is town then lynch him but only if ray is town.

Eden wants to lynch prplhz before Palmar.

well yeah but that's not right now, that's after ray flips. not the same thing as what you said.

now quit being a fucking dick, koshi

STFU YOU FUCK

STFU

THIS IS FUCKING NOW. THIS WAS YOUR GOODBYE POST. THIS IS FUCKING THE REALITY IN WHICH YOU ARE LIVING AND YOU TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELVES AND IN THE SAME POST WRITE THIS. THIS FUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE.

ray hasn't flipped yet so... no

It literally says;

When rayn flips town, lynch prplhz.

SO YOU SAY LYNCH PRPLHZ BEFORE PALMAR.


NOTHING I SAY IS UNTRUE


You are fucking impossible to work with. You don't fucking use any form of logic.

no it literally says "if"

and you said i wanted to lynch the cop and his greenchecks. i have one greencheck as a maybe lynch which doesn't even matter much cuz i think a non-greencheck is mafia. where's your logic?

You say

Never lynch Palmar.
Lynch rayn.
if rayn is town lynch prplhz.


If eden happens to be town, this is actually a brilliant observation.

? explain cuz i am and it'd be awesome to be brilliant
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:19 GMT
#6048
oh lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:20 GMT
#6049
idk that it's that brilliant
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:33 GMT
#6062
On March 21 2015 00:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:19 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:18 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:16 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:15 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:12 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:09 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
Eden wants to lynch prplhz before Palmar.

well yeah but that's not right now, that's after ray flips. not the same thing as what you said.

now quit being a fucking dick, koshi

STFU YOU FUCK

STFU

THIS IS FUCKING NOW. THIS WAS YOUR GOODBYE POST. THIS IS FUCKING THE REALITY IN WHICH YOU ARE LIVING AND YOU TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELVES AND IN THE SAME POST WRITE THIS. THIS FUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE.

ray hasn't flipped yet so... no

It literally says;

When rayn flips town, lynch prplhz.

SO YOU SAY LYNCH PRPLHZ BEFORE PALMAR.


NOTHING I SAY IS UNTRUE


You are fucking impossible to work with. You don't fucking use any form of logic.

no it literally says "if"

and you said i wanted to lynch the cop and his greenchecks. i have one greencheck as a maybe lynch which doesn't even matter much cuz i think a non-greencheck is mafia. where's your logic?

You say

Never lynch Palmar.
Lynch rayn.
if rayn is town lynch prplhz.


If eden happens to be town, this is actually a brilliant observation.

? explain cuz i am and it'd be awesome to be brilliant


You figured out I'm town, to the point that you're so sure of your read you're willing to entertain tinfoil hat theories over lynching me. That's a massively strong townread when there is lots of lynch inertia towards me in the game.

It's basically a very hard read to make, so hard that it's one of the things that's making me struggle to figure you out. I'm not sure I think you're good enough to do that without perfect information

I have made reads sort of like this before. I point to d1 of Horn of Africa, where everyone wanted to lynch "obvious" candidates sicklucker and Damdred, and I tried to lynch Koshi instead. Koshi was mafia, both of them were town.

Now, not the same situation for 2 reasons:
(1) ray is far more townie this game than Koshi was in that one.
(2) given the stakes I do think this is a harder read than sicklucker and Damdred being town.

But I think I've at least shown the potential to make a read like this in this situation before. It's a natural progression of improving as a player.

[inb4 Palmar is mafia and the above sentence is hilariously wrong]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:36 GMT
#6064
I don't think it's horrible! They are fundamentally similar to me :/
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 15:37 GMT
#6067
I wish I could point to not-TLMafia examples. I had one where everyone scumread me d3, one of the mafia said "everyone scumreads him so he's confirmed town" (which BEFORE YOU LAUGH was a legit heuristic in our meta at the time) and I lynched him. I can make these reads
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 16:28 GMT
#6125
On March 21 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like nothing is about what this game and my actions. It's about something else.
People are saying shit i can't possibly even defend myself against.

It is so BS.

That's not true. I have repeatedly asked you about your Onegu read d2 and d3. You said you "pushed him" d2 but you never once vote him. You waffled on him d2 in fact. You claim you sheeped marv onto ritoky d2 but you were tr'ing ritoky and you never discussed the difference in reads with marv, you just ditched your tr without explanation and voted him.

All of these are suspicious things you actually did. Things you can answer for. Things you refused to answer for when I pressed you before. Maybe now you'll answer for them?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 16:32 GMT
#6127
Is it too late to revisit prplhz? I know a framer is unlikely, but none of the other cases seem super likely either. And let's be real, if not for the cop check we would have lynched him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 16:46 GMT
#6138
On March 21 2015 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm just not entertaining prplhz, game is void in my mind if he's framer so i'm not going down that path

if he's framer you're in the situation where, AT BEST, 2 of the mafia permanently show as green to checks, and a townie shows as red. That's actually misinformation

Now that's just bullshit. It's a cop out to rationalize losing instead of an attempt to win. Come on, I can accept "I doubt there's a framer" but I won't accept "I don't care because in my mind it's not really a loss." Like how easy would that be? I could just say "Well I was obvious town so if I get ml'd it's not really my loss." But that's bullshit I still lose.

If you think he's town bc you just don't think there's a framer then ok. But don't give me the rationalization man. We can still win this game even if there's a framer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 16:48 GMT
#6141
On March 21 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please just lynch Eden. You can lynch me the next day if he doesn't flip mafia.

Lol you will regret this so so much. I give you one chance to take this back if you're town cuz you just buried yourself otherwise
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 16:58 GMT
#6151
On March 21 2015 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:28 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like nothing is about what this game and my actions. It's about something else.
People are saying shit i can't possibly even defend myself against.

It is so BS.

That's not true. I have repeatedly asked you about your Onegu read d2 and d3. You said you "pushed him" d2 but you never once vote him. You waffled on him d2 in fact. You claim you sheeped marv onto ritoky d2 but you were tr'ing ritoky and you never discussed the difference in reads with marv, you just ditched your tr without explanation and voted him.

All of these are suspicious things you actually did. Things you can answer for. Things you refused to answer for when I pressed you before. Maybe now you'll answer for them?

I told marv many times i want to lynch Onegu. I told you this before. I sheeped marv in the end. Like what do you want me to explain, it's that fucking simple.

Maybe you can explain all the suspicious things i have asked you to explain what you have never bothered to touch even with a long stick. Hypocrite.

Also this isn't true. Again you don't push Onegu d2. I looked in your filter. You just don't do it. And I've answered everything I thought. Post what else you need answered
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 16:59 GMT
#6154
On March 21 2015 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:48 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please just lynch Eden. You can lynch me the next day if he doesn't flip mafia.

Lol you will regret this so so much. I give you one chance to take this back if you're town cuz you just buried yourself otherwise

no.

Your loss should these chuckleheads lynch me.

Like literally, your loss. No matter what alignment you are.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 17:08 GMT
#6166
I'm not mafia. At all.

Someone tell me one thing I haven't answered. To the best of my limited ability I will answer. I have like 40 pages or so. That's longer than all my filters as scum combined. I readily acknowledge I haven't been at my best but I am town. Don't lynch me please.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 17:09 GMT
#6167
On March 21 2015 02:07 marvellosity wrote:
like as far as I can see, I just sat around today thinking about the game, trying to think about all different angles, and you decide to call me shit for some reason?

i really don't get it

What?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 17:12 GMT
#6169
On March 21 2015 02:07 marvellosity wrote:
like as far as I can see, I just sat around today thinking about the game, trying to think about all different angles, and you decide to call me shit for some reason?

i really don't get it

Then why you vote me? I am town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 17:16 GMT
#6171
On March 21 2015 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
because apparently right now i go for gameplay reasons than meta reasons.

But what are the gameplay reasons?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 2008
Bisu 455
Shinee 97
HiyA 54
ToSsGirL 44
NaDa 43
Bale 33
ggaemo 29
Sharp 14
soO 12
Dota 2
XaKoH 452
NeuroSwarm142
League of Legends
JimRising 449
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss704
ceh9560
Other Games
gofns18850
summit1g10409
Happy353
crisheroes283
Sick203
Livibee128
KnowMe84
Mew2King77
UpATreeSC41
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream12348
Other Games
gamesdonequick672
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 434
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 36
• StrangeGG 20
• mYiSmile18
• Letter147
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2137
League of Legends
• Jankos574
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 12m
Replay Cast
15h 12m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 18h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
2 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.