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On March 19 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote: Eden, this game would be better if you yelled that Palmar is scum. And Palmar would yell you are scum.
And we are sitting here just lynching both of you. Well, y'all could talk about the things I already said about Palmar since you revealed prplhz was town. I already voted Palmar. I said that it's suspicious that he's just fishing for a way not to lynch me today literally without having any reasons for doing it. (Contrast my questions about a framer, which was done in pursuit of an actual relevant line of inquiry about the game state, and how I POE'd it as being Palmar immediately if there's no framer.) Right now Palmar is the lynch and no one seems to have an issue with my arguments so I'm feeling ok taking a break from arguing about it.
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On March 19 2015 08:23 marvellosity wrote: i can lynch them both really happily tbh.
eden for the investment comment i've never got over palmar for calling me mafia all the time
they deserve to die good time to start, unless your list is in reverse lynch order in which case you can take your sweet time getting over it as long as you lynch palmar first and don't ruin my perfect mislynch streak
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On March 19 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote: I RNGed the order Lmao
On March 19 2015 08:30 prplhz wrote: ##Vote NoLynch
everybody should just vote no lynch and then go read stuff Bruh that just means Palmar gets 72 hours to troll everyone into thinking he's not mafia instead of giving Koshi 24 hours to figure the game out in the blue moon that Palmar is town
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On March 19 2015 08:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 08:27 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 08:23 marvellosity wrote: i can lynch them both really happily tbh.
eden for the investment comment i've never got over palmar for calling me mafia all the time
they deserve to die good time to start, unless your list is in reverse lynch order in which case you can take your sweet time getting over it as long as you lynch palmar first and don't ruin my perfect mislynch streak Don't give Palmar more reasons to play. wouldn't you want him to play? i mean obviously I have an incentive for him to give up but none of y'all should
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^won't no-lynch, vote is on Palmar. he gets it
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On March 19 2015 08:36 Koshi wrote: Let it be perfectly clear. I have cleared rayn 100% from being mafia. so... I'm pretty sure Palmar is mafia.
but if he's town, what do you advise me to do if I'm town given the circumstances?
because as pretty sure as I am about this, I am not looking forward to the possible universe where he flips town
pls advise
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On March 19 2015 08:37 marvellosity wrote: Like Onegu? *giggles*
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On March 19 2015 08:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 08:38 Eden1892 wrote:On March 19 2015 08:36 Koshi wrote: Let it be perfectly clear. I have cleared rayn 100% from being mafia. so... I'm pretty sure Palmar is mafia. but if he's town, what do you advise me to do if I'm town given the circumstances? because as pretty sure as I am about this, I am not looking forward to the possible universe where he flips town pls advise panic. well I know THAT what after that? i don't think you guys understand how much i'm dreading the possibility of him flipping town and me being in 4p mylo with ray/prplhz/you. i never want to be the reason my team loses and i never want to be ml'd and i feel like both of those are happening if he's town
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ok friends, this is my plan for today. let me know if this is ok.
i am going to vote for palmar (check) i am going to make some arguments for why palmar is mafia (check) i am going to respond to queries about them and make more arguments as needed i am going to otherwise not really try all that hard.
if palmar is going to get me lynched instead, then i will spam thread and be loud to get him lynched.
if palmar flips town, i'm going to freak out and then you guys will please not lynch me at 4p mylo
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On March 19 2015 08:51 Koshi wrote: Lynch his own gf
--> tries to shoot cop in the night. when you put it that way it's not patently ridiculous.
but that's not what happened, i agree. he wasn't forced to lynch onegu yesterday at all
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On March 19 2015 08:50 Palmar wrote: I like how eden is copying my idea of setting rules of engagement. sort of. i just want to know if i can get away with being a little lazy, because i've been busting my ass all day in this game when i haven't been busting my ass at work, and i foresee this trend continuing for the next 2 days, and i'm tired
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On March 19 2015 08:55 marvellosity wrote: oh yeah, i was going to save it for postgame, but i don't have to now
the reason i've posted so much - i posted a lot on day 1 for shits and giggles, but planned to fall back to a more reasonable amount of posting.
but then people were getting suspicious of me, and i basically reasoned the best way to not get lynched was just to masspost. so I did. just thought i'd be lynched otherwise :/ well now you can never lynch me ever because i did the same thing except in reverse
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I'm probably burying myself here but Palmar's town case is hella convincing.
I am town though. I swear. I don't know what Palmar being town means for the game state. But I think he's town.
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Y'know, Koshi was awful eager to lynch marv d3 for having a green check on him.
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These are my 3 theories right now. Idk which one is right. But I think one is.
1) Koshi fake claimed cop 2) ray bused his team 3) prplhz is framer
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You think (3) really is impossible?
It would basically make the game vanilla w/town RB. Which seems mafiasided given past history of 9-3's. But it doesn't seem impossible...
I think (1) is the least likely. I think Koshi moved around a lot on marv d3 for having a green check, but I can understand it if he basically disregarded the check until a godfather flipped. His reaction with ritoky seemed pretty legit when I factchecked his claim yesterday. And there's the question of necessity... why would mafia!Koshi need to do any of this? He could let everyone believe he is vet and coast to a win. So it's not (1).
(3) basically depends on whether or not you believe a normal 9-3 would have 3 cop-hating roles when town has cop/rb. I do tend to think that's not what happened, but I don't feel confident saying that's not it in the same vein that I did with (1).
(2) ...man, (2) is hard too. I can see the necessity of ray busing JAT. That's not terribly difficult to figure out. ray was on the chopping block for all of d1 and then JAT started getting on the block late, so it makes some sense for ray to bus JAT; whichever one isn't lynched looks better for the push (either ray looks better for pushing mafia or JAT looks better for being the target of lynched mafia's final gambit at survival). But it seems like he wouldn't want to switch off me and onto Onegu. I probably need to look at when he moved to Onegu to figure it out, because my recollection was that Fecalfeast moved first, marv moved second, then ray. It's still weird, because I don't know why ray would feel the necessity of lynching Onegu there. Maybe he figured Onegu was going down soon and wanted the credit for endgame? It makes sense to make a final bus move at MYLO-1 instead of at MYLO, because people don't expect a bus at MYLO-1, whereas they'll believe anything about MYLO.
I don't feel like I can make a hella convincing case about (2), but it seems like the best shot based on what I said. I don't believe that marv would be the framer or that there would be two godfathers; if I'm entertaining a setup like that then it's prplhz for sure over marv. And Palmar's town case is really fucking convincing. I think he's town.
##UNVOTE ##VOTE: raynpelikoneet
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I don't want to die at all, I think I've been clear about that.
I don't think it's either me OR Palmar at this point, Koshi. Work with me here.
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ray was third to switch onto Onegu, after prplhz and before marv. His switch tied the vote but left me as the lynch via modified plurality tiebreaker. Maybe ray thought no one else was willing to move?
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On March 20 2015 03:58 Koshi wrote: It's you or Palmar. Quite obviously. If you want to be a jackass. You can die first. I don't think it's obvious. Why do you? You're apparently completely unconvinced by Palmar's town case, why don't you show me why?
And how am I being a jackass? What would you do differently in my situation? Lynch the obvious target who seems really townie and then shrug your shoulders, get mislynched next day and lose the game for your team?
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On March 20 2015 04:00 marvellosity wrote: it is in mafia Eden's best interests for 3 ppl to be on the table Then why am I taking one of them off? Especially the easiest one to lynch out of the group?
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