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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 24 2015 13:05 GMT
#6781
i mean people keep going "IMBA IMBA" and "muh winrate" and stuff like that when, if the game is winnable with good analysis, people shouldn't worry about that at all. okay, so maybe sometimes you get a game that's somewhat mafia favoured and then you lose, big fucking deal? if you did some good analysis but then things didn't work out anyway because mafia had that extra edge then who cares about that really.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 24 2015 13:05 GMT
#6782
On March 24 2015 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
gj prplhz btw. i was so hoping you'd end up agreeing with me

i was under the impression it was the other way around lol
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 24 2015 13:06 GMT
#6783
anyway fun game i hope rayn comes back even if he's quite a sore loser sometimes
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 24 2015 13:08 GMT
#6784
yeah I kind of think there was one too many misdirection roles, but it's not broken beyond belief. Town did have a stroke of luck with their cop checks though.

9v3 is a difficult one. If it's a completely vanilla setup I think it's mafia favored. Without having much to back it up I think a 9v3 with a single naked cop can actually be a pretty good setup for balance. An alternative would be 9v3 with a pair of masons. So this game you add a town roleblocker to the mix so clearly mafia needs something. However I think the trifecta may have been a bit too much.

Also roleblocker is such a difficult role to balance in a small game, because it's very weak early game due to the lack of possible mafia roles and then it becomes very strong late game because it can essentially clear a player once we're down to one mafia.

If I was to balance this game I think I would have given mafia the miller/gf combo to deal with the cop, and then some alternative way of dealing with the roleblocker. (although I probably would have just used a veteran instead of a roleblocker).
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:10 GMT
#6785
On March 24 2015 22:05 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
gj prplhz btw. i was so hoping you'd end up agreeing with me

i was under the impression it was the other way around lol

i obviously wanted rayn. but i was gonna vote with you whichever way you chose.

HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
03-21-2015
09:39 AM ET (US)
if you look at it really simply:

palmar: played towny
marv: played towny
prplhz: played towny d1 i guess but seemed pretty honest throughout lynches
rayn: played scummy but lynched mafia

ezpz

i think that's a good summation
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 24 2015 13:10 GMT
#6786
like I think both sides played well and town got a bit lucky.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:13 GMT
#6787
i really would have been crushed if it was Palmar.

Everything I know and feel about mafia would have come crashing down.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 24 2015 13:14 GMT
#6788
on the day we killed eden

On March 21 2015 06:21 prplhz wrote:
anyway, if i was me i'd lynch rayn today

pretty sure you ended up agreeing with me
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:15 GMT
#6789
whatever makes you feel good babe.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 24 2015 13:16 GMT
#6790
okay we were probably both converging on rayn

(but i converged faster)
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:17 GMT
#6791
see above :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 24 2015 13:17 GMT
#6792
On March 24 2015 22:10 Palmar wrote:
like I think both sides played well and town got a bit lucky.

Town got incredibly lucky with the damdred replacement. If nothing like that happens mafia wins. If mafia makes better nightkills throughout the game mafia also wins. Sad times.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 24 2015 13:18 GMT
#6793
rsoul nk was crazy bad
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 24 2015 13:18 GMT
#6794
The rsoultin kill still makes me rage...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 24 2015 13:21 GMT
#6795
i hope some of you understood the true beauty of the obs qt name
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:26 GMT
#6796
On March 24 2015 22:21 Holyflare wrote:
i hope some of you understood the true beauty of the obs qt name

I pegged rayn from his first 2 posts

and yes I get the sexual reference
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 24 2015 13:29 GMT
#6797
On March 24 2015 22:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 22:10 Palmar wrote:
like I think both sides played well and town got a bit lucky.

Town got incredibly lucky with the damdred replacement. If nothing like that happens mafia wins. If mafia makes better nightkills throughout the game mafia also wins. Sad times.

I put less emphasis in the damdred replacement than you guys do. Town did however get three free townies the day before lylo when conceivably we could easily have a framed target in there.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:30 GMT
#6798
On March 11 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
jat:

rayn's original couple of posts, I don't necessarily believe what he was doing (starting the game), they're just off. maybe rayn's explanation is right, maybe not, i can't prove it

attacking LS in the fashion he did, it reads very bizarrely. further he's done the same with LS in previous games, so either he just learnt nothing and is repeating history, or he's doing it because it's quite easy to attack LS for almost anything

the post he made on prplhz, i stand by what i said originally, prplhz looks quite town so the entire post was off and pointless. threatening prplhz with the day 2 lynch if he "afks his vote and does nothing"? well, you don't say, it's too obvious to say, it also doesn't look like what prplhz is doing

the small thing about deleting a post on LS townread, repeating what already happened in the thread, said he missed it

said "i have no idea why ppl are scumreading slam" - already went over in the thread, it means he "missed" half a page of posts where people were all like "lol slam isn't in the game lol" - this and the last = 2 instances of rayn not being attentive, he's usually attentive

the damdred thing seems part of a pattern - he's finding reasons to call people mafia, not actually thinking about both sides of the story, damdred did a thing -> mafia. His aggression was really well balanced in the game that just finished and he was town, and it doesn't seem well balanced at all here.

of course i can be wrong about all of this and he's town and playing not really as i expect, but at the moment i don't think so

perfect day 1 case.

sad times.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 24 2015 13:35 GMT
#6799
On March 24 2015 22:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
jat:

rayn's original couple of posts, I don't necessarily believe what he was doing (starting the game), they're just off. maybe rayn's explanation is right, maybe not, i can't prove it

attacking LS in the fashion he did, it reads very bizarrely. further he's done the same with LS in previous games, so either he just learnt nothing and is repeating history, or he's doing it because it's quite easy to attack LS for almost anything

the post he made on prplhz, i stand by what i said originally, prplhz looks quite town so the entire post was off and pointless. threatening prplhz with the day 2 lynch if he "afks his vote and does nothing"? well, you don't say, it's too obvious to say, it also doesn't look like what prplhz is doing

the small thing about deleting a post on LS townread, repeating what already happened in the thread, said he missed it

said "i have no idea why ppl are scumreading slam" - already went over in the thread, it means he "missed" half a page of posts where people were all like "lol slam isn't in the game lol" - this and the last = 2 instances of rayn not being attentive, he's usually attentive

the damdred thing seems part of a pattern - he's finding reasons to call people mafia, not actually thinking about both sides of the story, damdred did a thing -> mafia. His aggression was really well balanced in the game that just finished and he was town, and it doesn't seem well balanced at all here.

of course i can be wrong about all of this and he's town and playing not really as i expect, but at the moment i don't think so

perfect day 1 case.

sad times.

The only reason I engaged this was that I knew you would get doubts when one of us flips.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 24 2015 13:36 GMT
#6800
good job haha ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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