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On March 16 2015 20:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 19:53 marvellosity wrote:On March 11 2015 02:22 prplhz wrote:this is from 8 hours into a game where justanothertownie is town linkOn December 17 2014 08:37 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 17 2014 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:On December 17 2014 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Also marv is kinda scummy for lurking instead of posting. hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch. ##Vote: coagulationRemember? The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.But it's ok for now. Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default Huh? I find marv hard to read. The assumption is that Palmar is mafia and marv is town, and that Palmar is trying to curb his influence by tossing scum on him. I realized the townMarv part of the equation was missing, but that's where my head is at...I'm reading marv town and Palmar as ???. Ok, I don't think he is that hard to read but you may disagree. BUT if you think so then why the hell are you townreading him? Because I think he is not that hard to read and I certainly don't have a townread on him by now. I also don't think that scum Palmar thinks he can curb town marvs influence. he doesn't want to give a town read on someone he thinks is "not that hard to read". in this game 10 hours in On March 10 2015 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 10 2015 09:51 marvellosity wrote:
how many games have you played with him since you were calling for breshke to shoot me over him then? roflroflrofl This game hasn't become more interesting since yesterday. At least I like rsoultin, Eden and Palmar so far. And another person I am not telling. huehuehue Would policy lynch ritoky for keeping an mediocre joke alive for ages. Would also policy lynch slam (unfortunately not that easy). 4 town reads. I'm going to take these one at a time as I consider them. Thanks for making the links. First off, obviously the meta is completely awful. I'm not gonna break it down too much, but townJAT not townreading mafiaMarv when I'm in the midst of calling marv scum isn't very telling. Like it's completely unreasonable to expect JAT to have thrown out a townread on marv right there.HOWEVER, the validity of the meta isn't the main point here, because all that matters is whether prplhz actually believes the meta. It's completely irrelevant if it's good or not.I'm not convinced he does, because it's such a start contrast yet he never votes or pushes it. Like if not to try to lynch JAT, what exactly is the purpose of this? Still not certain, but I actually don't think this particular point does very much to alleviate concerns regarding prplhz.
i don't even understand this post. especially the bolded part.
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On March 16 2015 20:34 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:32 Palmar wrote:On March 16 2015 19:53 marvellosity wrote:On March 11 2015 02:22 prplhz wrote:this is from 8 hours into a game where justanothertownie is town linkOn December 17 2014 08:37 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 17 2014 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
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hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch.
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Remember? The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.But it's ok for now. Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default Huh? I find marv hard to read. The assumption is that Palmar is mafia and marv is town, and that Palmar is trying to curb his influence by tossing scum on him. I realized the townMarv part of the equation was missing, but that's where my head is at...I'm reading marv town and Palmar as ???. Ok, I don't think he is that hard to read but you may disagree. BUT if you think so then why the hell are you townreading him? Because I think he is not that hard to read and I certainly don't have a townread on him by now. I also don't think that scum Palmar thinks he can curb town marvs influence. he doesn't want to give a town read on someone he thinks is "not that hard to read". in this game 10 hours in On March 10 2015 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 10 2015 09:51 marvellosity wrote:
how many games have you played with him since you were calling for breshke to shoot me over him then? roflroflrofl This game hasn't become more interesting since yesterday. At least I like rsoultin, Eden and Palmar so far. And another person I am not telling. huehuehue Would policy lynch ritoky for keeping an mediocre joke alive for ages. Would also policy lynch slam (unfortunately not that easy). 4 town reads. I'm going to take these one at a time as I consider them. Thanks for making the links. First off, obviously the meta is completely awful. I'm not gonna break it down too much, but townJAT not townreading mafiaMarv when I'm in the midst of calling marv scum isn't very telling. Like it's completely unreasonable to expect JAT to have thrown out a townread on marv right there.HOWEVER, the validity of the meta isn't the main point here, because all that matters is whether prplhz actually believes the meta. It's completely irrelevant if it's good or not.I'm not convinced he does, because it's such a start contrast yet he never votes or pushes it. Like if not to try to lynch JAT, what exactly is the purpose of this? Still not certain, but I actually don't think this particular point does very much to alleviate concerns regarding prplhz. i don't even understand this post. especially the bolded part.
I'm saying the meta point is invalid.
That doesn't make the point invalid. It was correct that it was inherently scummy for JAT to make so many easy townreads, but trying to contrast it with the situation from the other game adds nothing to the value of the point.
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Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too.
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On March 16 2015 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Can someone tell me I'm overreacting (or not) with deciding Damdred isn't a dick enough to replace out like this as mafia? It feels like I could get away with an easy read right here. Damdred slot is definitely town or this game is invalid.
Last I will say on this, but I agree.
I also agree that I don't think Damdred would replace out because he was under pressure as mafia. I've often wished I could just replace out when I'm having a tough game as scum, but I never actually considered going ahead and doing it.
And I think Damdred is probably morally superior to me already which further adds to this feeling
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On March 16 2015 20:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 16 2015 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Can someone tell me I'm overreacting (or not) with deciding Damdred isn't a dick enough to replace out like this as mafia? It feels like I could get away with an easy read right here. Damdred slot is definitely town or this game is invalid. Last I will say on this, but I agree. I also agree that I don't think Damdred would replace out because he was under pressure as mafia. I've often wished I could just replace out when I'm having a tough game as scum, but I never actually considered going ahead and doing it. And I think Damdred is probably morally superior to me already which further adds to this feeling
I agree with this.
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On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too.
so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing?
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On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too.
where???
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On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too. so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing?
No I'm saying the meta is irrelevant. Can you not be a dick about it please.
Do you agree that we should treat FF as confirmed town right now?
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##Vote Palmar
i don't know but if palmar thinks i'm a liar he should have voted me or some shit?
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I am on page 7 of jat's Imperial filter and I found the first thing i can call a hint of a townread
"geript might be town for being a complete donkey"
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On March 16 2015 20:43 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Palmar
i don't know but if palmar thinks i'm a liar he should have voted me or some shit?
he is voting you
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that's not even the same game though.
And he is joking.
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On March 16 2015 20:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote:On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too. so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing? No I'm saying the meta is irrelevant. Can you not be a dick about it please. Do you agree that we should treat FF as confirmed town right now?
sorry if i am coming across as a dick, i'm not trying to be a dick.
if your argument is "prplhz doesn't believe that the meta he provided proves koshi's point" then i can't really argue against that. yes i did/do?
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On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too. so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing?
He is saying you can't compare this game to the game for what you said.
You said JAT didn't read marv town in that other game despite marv being easy to read for him but marv was mafia in that game so why should JAT read him town in the first place there?
This game JAT gave out half-arsed townreads. That game he did the opposite. Therefore the meta you presented is invalid.
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On March 16 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:43 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Palmar
i don't know but if palmar thinks i'm a liar he should have voted me or some shit? he is voting you
yes but he should have voted me and pointed this out ages ago. instead he's just been like "maybe he's scum maybe not i dunno" all game instead of calling me out on my lie.
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And no I don't think you lied. I don't think you would lie about this even if you are mafia. It makes no sense to do that. If you are mafia the fact that you made the meta read is not why. It's what you then did with it that worries me.
Did you not think your meta thing was a good enough reason to vote JAT prplhz?
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On March 16 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote:On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too. so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing? He is saying you can't compare this game to the game for what you said. You said JAT didn't read marv town in that other game despite marv being easy to read for him but marv was mafia in that game so why should JAT read him town in the first place there? This game JAT gave out half-arsed townreads. That game he did the opposite. Therefore the meta you presented is invalid.
oh, i didn't consider that marv point. but it's still true that he didn't give out town reads like he did this game.
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On March 16 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 20:42 Palmar wrote:On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote:On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too. so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing? No I'm saying the meta is irrelevant. Can you not be a dick about it please. Do you agree that we should treat FF as confirmed town right now? sorry if i am coming across as a dick, i'm not trying to be a dick. if your argument is "prplhz doesn't believe that the meta he provided proves koshi's point" then i can't really argue against that. yes i did/do?
Well that has to be my argument. I don't think you're dumb. I don't think you'd blatantly lie about shit as mafia. If you are mafia and decided to bus you would probably make a pretty good point! like you did!
Like I wish I hadn't even mentioned that I think the meta is irrelevant because for some reason yall are now talking about that instead of what is actually the matter.
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On March 16 2015 20:46 Palmar wrote:
And no I don't think you lied. I don't think you would lie about this even if you are mafia. It makes no sense to do that. If you are mafia the fact that you made the meta read is not why. It's what you then did with it that worries me.
Did you not think your meta thing was a good enough reason to vote JAT prplhz?
yes i could have voted him for it. but i liked the rayn case more.
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