EPTXXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+) - Page 20
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Eden1892
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On March 15 2015 04:22 Damdred wrote: The more eden posts the more posts like this give me an odd feeling... ._. i liked ritoky's big defense last night when i skimmed it on the way to friday night mafia, but y'all have a compelling point about his lack of willingness to kill people. i don't get what's weird about voting for someone you think logically is probably mafia but instinctively feel is townie when no one will kill your primary target | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 15 2015 04:21 marvellosity wrote: Eden ^ I might add to this that Palmar had the same thought to me about ritoky's trolliness being too "tryhard". I had never actually said it in thread but he brought it up and I had been thinking it. I think prplhz mentioned something about his trolly blueclaims and stuff. I'm not sure what end he expected ccing rayn there other than kinda drawing attention to himself? The reason Palmar isn't clear town to me is that stuff I said about replicable meta. There exists a world where I think Palmar *could* replicate this play as mafia. I just don't think so. first of all, thank you secondly, i don't think reading ritoky's trolling as being forced when ritoky admitted in-thread that it was forced is particularly compelling evidence of town. if you think it's one of those mindmeld things then i get where you're coming from, but from the outside it's not doing much for me :/ agreed that i don't get what the point of his blueclaims were either, but i have repeatedly asked him if he's really the cop after he claimed it and he ignored me, so i am forced to take it at face value, in which case his claim is transparently bullshit imo are you sure you couldn't be convinced to lynch palmar first? | ||
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On March 15 2015 04:26 Palmar wrote: Fuck the tinfoil hat Marv is town. I actually think damdy looks bad at times. I will however join the ritoky wagon are you the fucking cop with a fucking green check on fucking ray i heard somewhere that saying fuck makes you look cool and gets people to talk to you so maybe this will do it | ||
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On March 15 2015 04:30 Damdred wrote: I wouldn't actually mind getting lynched honestly i'm not really having fun this game man pls don't say this, all of the fuck-you klaxons are sounding in my head and i'm trying really hard not to just lock on and fire away | ||
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On March 15 2015 04:31 marvellosity wrote: yes it's bullshit, but why?? what's the play? I am pretty convinced yes. Like I understand what you are saying, if we're going by gameplay reasons there is very little game-solving in Palmar's game. i don't know  just trolling i guess. i'm inclined to throw it out altogether and ignore it because it makes no sense from either alignment | ||
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On March 15 2015 04:35 Damdred wrote: Meh, I make big posts people come in damdred looks bad in spots. Oh rsoul scum read damdred. Its what it is just don't care hopefully ritoky is the roleblocker though if that's what i think it is, congrats, i am never lynching you | ||
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y'see, I know I've probably destroyed the reputation of my instinct by now with all of my frequent movements when I'm town, but it really is pretty good most of the time. I just end up overthinking things and ignoring my instinct a lot so if ritoky flips town then I am dumb for once again doubting my good instincts and if he flips mafia then I am dumb for having bad instincts (even though I ultimately end up voting the right way, it is dumb that my instinct is so blatantly counterlogical) but it's good to be dumb, because that means I still have room to keep improving | ||
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On March 15 2015 05:13 Damdred wrote: Trying to be more intuitive without over analyzing everything perfectly, especially since more limited amount of time. Meh anyway I just don't know how to do it well enough nor have enough faith in some of the things I feel in my gut I suppose well now I am definitely never ever lynching Damdred lol I am terrible, I basically did to you what I complained about other people doing to me then :/ you should keep experimenting with this I think. always look for new avenues to improve as a player | ||
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my thought here is that, assuming ray is town, the mafia likely felt that getting jat to live for one more day wasn't going to be worth the hassle of being suspicious when he flips scum after d2. an inertia lynch on town!ray to save scum!jat would have looked terrible for the last-minute provocateurs, so they presumably decided not to save him. i'm not sure what else they would've decided to do instead though. "bus jat for credit" is the textbook answer but my first thought was actually "stand pat and see what happens" -- after all, it WAS a close vote for a while, maybe they figured they could just hang on and get the inertia lynch without making a move that would be suspicious later. hedging bets basically of course ray could be mafia. why do you have him as p. much 99.9% town damdred? obviously it's easy fmpov since i know that both of the other pushes that got a little momentum (me and ritoky) were town, but jat and his team not trying to save himself certainly could point to ray being mafia | ||
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On March 15 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote: Eden, why did you back off Palmar so fast? I remember in student mafia wave was no where near top of the lynch list and you yelled your head off until you got what you wanted. Why so submissive and willing to take a back seat at this point only to say i'll get palmar tomorrow! Two things: (1) Thread activity level. When I finally got on to start posting there weren't many people online. I kinda figured it was too little too late. I pushed on Wave for something like 24 hours I think and we had an active enough EOD to get the switch I wanted. (2) I'm all too painfully aware that my persuasion currency isn't worth shit compared to Student VI. The old farts in that game didn't really care much of what I had to say but there were still half newbies and then a couple of new-guard vets like you willing to listen. Here I feel like no one really cares at all and that I'm not getting anywhere. (And no that's not a woe-is-me boohoo post like a lot of my other ones this game have been, that's just the stark reality of the situation.) Since I didn't have a compelling logical argument for why ritoky is town instead I just went with the logical lynch that seemed like it would go through instead of following my instinct and yelling loudly in a mostly-empty thread full of people who don't really care who my suspects are. Just look at my pushes this game and you can see why my mentality might be different: (1) You, d1 and d2. Literally everybody that bothered to comment on it called it bad without engaging my cases on a point-by-point level. I never got any traction whenever I tried. (2) ritoky d1. The only confirmed mafia in the game was the only one who bit on it. No one really said much at the time but in retrospect people are again calling it bad. Combine that with my meta decision from game start to try to be less spammy and loud, after being told that it was bad for town and hurting my team's ability to win the game (and being told IN Student VI, no less), and hopefully the picture is clear. But this kinda really sucks too, because now I'm just sitting here impotent and lamely following what I presume to be my team while we misfire. I don't know what I have to do to play the reserved analytical style I want to try and be successful here. I can do it all the time in my irl group, but that's because I'm pretty universally respected as the best townie there, so I have enough positive karma built up from a year or so of playing actively to get people to let me do my thing and just listen to me. I'm kinda out of my element when I can't just be like "this guy is mafia sheep me" and get somebody lynched. :/ | ||
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