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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 07 2015 05:44 GMT
#921
if somebody has meta on Onegu, multiple people or else I wont consider it, it would be helpful.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 07 2015 06:01 GMT
#922
One thing that was unclear.

He comes into the thread day two saying he is going to lynch me or MM. I dont think he had any interaction with me. Prob Mm too or very little.

Kinda weird to say that after not interacting with us day one and then continuing that.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 07 2015 06:37 GMT
#923
I will do more shit tom when I get home from work but before mm. Idk how many posts I got left.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2015 08:03 GMT
#924
Multiple people did nothing yesterday, so annoying right Robik.

Ritoky, why did you vote slam so late? You seemed pretty set on him.
No gg, No skill.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 07 2015 10:37 GMT
#925
@ Damdred Im not scum I claimed vt and I don't lie as SCUM.

Second I pushed slam, I was the first damn vote on him, I gave the real meta reads, and I pushed the lynch. Slam even came into the thread and asked why he was getting scum read I was the only one who responded.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2015 11:59 GMT
#926
Hey onegu, who's scum?
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 18:37 GMT
#927
Meh, so first off, apologies for my general suckage this game. Not that I don’t have a bad track record at finding scum anyway, but it irritates me more in games where I have higher influence -_-
Secondly, I think the key to this game right now is getting reads on the lynchbait (lurkers, policy lynches) because we’ve got too many:
To that end, Oatsmaster is town precisely because he was AFK during the Slam almost-lynch. A profile check shows that this lack of activity was thread-specific. If he’s mafia he should be bussing or jumping on another wagon. That he didn’t care means he’s likely not scum here. The Robik push was actually pretty good, too, with the way Robik has been playing this game, and he’s been in the thread scumhunting both nights. I’m comfortable putting him as solid town.
That leaves the more difficult trifecta of MM/Onegu/Snickers.
MM has a super clean filter. It’s kind of startling how clean it is, even. Clear thought process with prp’s overreaction to a joke, the pressure vote on oats followed by consolidation on to previously stated scumread prp, not having a good read on slam…lol it’s not like slam’s easy to read really especially if you haven’t played with him much, and regardless of alignment that AFK excuse isn’t one you make up. Too unusual xP So. I’m going to put him at a town lean here. Not as solid as Oats, but he feels townie to me.
Snickers…okay, I’m just gonna say it. I have no good specific reason to think he’s town here and yet I still do. Call it a soul read or a mindmeld or something…but he and oats both have been saying things I’ve been thinking (him more than oats) throughout the game. Long-ass filter, interesting comments sprinkled in with the trolling, a case tonight when there was no need for him to put that work in. This doesn’t make him 100% town but I can’t shake the feeling that he’s not scum here.
That leaves Onegu. I had a townread on him earlier that I think was preemptive. I still find it strange that his entire filter Day 1 was on Slam if he’s scum. Like, the only thing that makes sense to me then is that scum was bussing Slam from the beginning, or that the wagon took off too quickly and he didn’t feel he could move his vote without looking suspicious. Simplest answer is scum bussed slam or Onegu is town. Classic low-hanging fruit approach to Day 2, though. MM, Oats and Snickers…lol. Note how I mentioned trying to get reads on the lynchbait? The vote onto Super was bad, too, when he had MM as a stronger scumread, but I’m not sure how that makes sense as a scum move unless Robik is scum. Null leaning scum. Would lynch, and the scummiest of the four.
TLDR;

Town
Oats – vote Day 1, follow-up on Robik
Snickers – mindmeld, night work

Town Lean
MM1 – clear thought progression

Scum lean
Onegu – lynchbait scumreads, EoD2 vote
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 19:04 GMT
#928
Which leaves Trfel, Robik, Ritoky and Damdred

I'm just gonna remove ritoky from consideration right now. His voting has looked bad, between piling on Slam last second and not moving EoD2, but I just can't get past all the work he's put in in between. I go into his filter looking for scum and can't find anything but an awkward start. You're town to me, ritoky. And if you end up being scum, this was an excellent game of yours and I'm not sure why you'd try so hard when getting mislynches should be pretty easy here for scum lol.

Robik

On March 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Signup List
5 Trfel
6 prplhz
7 Onegu
8 Alakaslam
10 MysteryMeat1
11 Oatsmaster

People I could lynch today.

Trfel - weird content. I was able to clear in previous game. not able to this game
Prplhz - why me? fry me
Onegu - not sure why but would maybe lynch
Slam - not sure why but would maybe lynch

MM1 - don't want to lynch but lack of content is disturbing
Oats - i might just be bitter cause he was a meanie to me last game and tried tunneling me


Low-hanging fruit + maybe would lynch Onegu(scummiest lurker)/Slam(scum) for...no reason? Weird as shit.

His read on Snickers seems like TMI (objectively Snickers has looked more townie recently, and I never like the too scummy to be scum argument).

The argument that he always NKs Snickers is not only WIFOM, but stupid if he's scum and gone on record saying Snickers is a PR. Palmar was scumreading him (along with ritoky, and I'm town and probably ritoky is) and looking like shit himself.

I'm just not seeing any real scumhunting in his filter. He comes in when people start scumreading him, gives reads when asked, but where is the pressure? Also, lol at the pushing prp wagon claim. The hell he did. That's almost as funny as Onegu claiming he was the main force behind the slam lynch. Yup. His filter is like 60% defensive posts...80% by Day 2. I'm really happy with a Robik lynch.

Sidenote:
Damdred I'm having trouble reading. Gut says town. Filter says town. Little things bug me. The last minute switch, for one, and that it came after Onegu voted Super. Also having one scum on Slam and one on Prp seems strange to me. I mean, it probably happens, and could be explained by Onegu not being in-thread near EoD I guess, just seems like a general lack of commitment from the scum team. Damdred also falls in the category of doing an awful lot of work for a game where scum can easily coast, though.

TLDR; I really think Robik and Onegu are the scum here. Questions about anything...I've got two posts left before EoN. So I probably will hold off until closer to the flip and address them all in one post, if there are any. Feel free to ask though ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2015 19:05 GMT
#929
So as mafia, I decided to try to pull a lynch off of town!superbia and onto mm1 with the possiblity of getting lynched in the process. You're a fucking genius. Where do I sign up for lessons on how to blow dick
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 07 2015 19:42 GMT
#930
Rsoultin I thought you understood.

Had to make a change

@ Robik. I <3 me some bussing, but I am trying to change my ways as you know. Tell me I wasn't pushing the slam lynch. And my whole.reason for voting Superbia was to make sure you didn't get killed.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2015 19:46 GMT
#931
I'M NOT FUCKING PUSHING YOU ONEGU. WTF ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME FOR. I THINK RSOUL IS TRYING TO THROW SHIT AT ME NOW AND IT'S PISSING ME OFF.

As for you pushing slam...your reasoning was bad as fuck, but I think it's prolly towny given how ludicrous it was
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 07 2015 20:06 GMT
#932
No caps lock at Onegu. You make Onegu uncomfortable. Onegu scared. Onegu takes a pill.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 07 2015 20:57 GMT
#933
Rsoultin is almost certainly town here. Just saying this again.

Rsoultin started pushing Alakaslam very early on. The only reason that this would happen is if the mafia team agreed to bus Alakaslam. But then, rsoultin wouldn't have vote switched off of Alakaslam. Rsoultn's play simply makes no sense at all from a mafia perspective.

Ritoky seems kind of strange. Many parts of his play seem to make him look like mafia. For example, the way he eventually voted on Alakaslam so late in the day, and the way he set it up ("If Alakaslam looks like town, he's town, but otherwise he's definitely scum"). That said, his play has seemed like focused scumhunting, and with the thread being such a mess, there is not much incentive for him to do so. I almost want to townread him for effort alone.

Robik and Onegu both look suspicious, but they can't be scum together based on they Day 1 voting.

I'm sorry, I wish I could provide more, but I'm busy with unexpected real life issues.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#934
Let's take a look at the votes again, shall we?

5 on Super
3 on robik
2 on MM

The people potentially available to switch were: me (had already said I'd only switch to MM), ritoky (Super, MM or me were the people he was looking into Day 2), onegu (mm, oats, snickers, super)...

So yes, if all three of us decided to switch to you in that last minute and a half when you were exposed, robik, you would have died. But it's a bit of a stretch to say that there was any reasonable expectation that this would actually happen.

In fact, you switching back last second at all is a crazy level of paranoia, imo. Possibly even indicative of a guilty conscience. Meanwhile, you get the credit for being "willing" to lynch someone other than a mislynch, as demonstrated by your vote which you announced in thread...though you didn't seem terribly interested in broadcasting the fact that you were switching back to Super. There is certainly scum motivation for making a switch that minimally exposes you for a grand total of 90 seconds, especially when it detaches you from culpability of a mislynch.

More to the point, you are still not trying to solve the game. If your innocence is supposedly so "obvious" now...where is the analysis to help town?

-

Onegu, oats asked you a question. Unlike me you actually have plenty of posts to engage.

-

Reserving last post for EoN
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2015 21:19 GMT
#935
On March 08 2015 06:16 rsoultin wrote:
Let's take a look at the votes again, shall we?

5 on Super
3 on robik
2 on MM

The people potentially available to switch were: me (had already said I'd only switch to MM), ritoky (Super, MM or me were the people he was looking into Day 2), onegu (mm, oats, snickers, super)...

So yes, if all three of us decided to switch to you in that last minute and a half when you were exposed, robik, you would have died. But it's a bit of a stretch to say that there was any reasonable expectation that this would actually happen.

In fact, you switching back last second at all is a crazy level of paranoia, imo. Possibly even indicative of a guilty conscience. Meanwhile, you get the credit for being "willing" to lynch someone other than a mislynch, as demonstrated by your vote which you announced in thread...though you didn't seem terribly interested in broadcasting the fact that you were switching back to Super. There is certainly scum motivation for making a switch that minimally exposes you for a grand total of 90 seconds, especially when it detaches you from culpability of a mislynch.

More to the point, you are still not trying to solve the game. If your innocence is supposedly so "obvious" now...where is the analysis to help town?

-

Onegu, oats asked you a question. Unlike me you actually have plenty of posts to engage.

-

Reserving last post for EoN

So I'm sitting in voting thread after having voted mm1 and refreshing nonstop to see whether anyone is switching and then when nobody does at the 6 second mark i switch back because i'm a) paranoid b) have a guilty conscience? If you're really trying to push this agenda as scum then that's laughable. If you're pushing it as town, I advice you to splash water on your face and get to a state of normalcy. This type of behavior is only suited for a fucktwat like GB
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2015 21:21 GMT
#936
So did I do it town town!mm1? Did I do it to my mafia partner? Like you're not even trying to analyze the selfless act. You literally didn't even bring up the fact that I openly stated in the thread that I believed Superbia to be an obvious mislynch at that point and was bummed that no one was around to make the fucking switch. In fact, as ritoky and damdred so gracefully pointed out, I was sitting waiting for damdred to show up because I wanted to shenany off of superbia and didn't think I had enough people for it because there were too many people who wanted to lynch me instead.

So again, if you're town, please stop being dumb
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 07 2015 21:56 GMT
#937
On March 07 2015 20:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey onegu, who's scum?



Mm1 and stickers. With you as a outside shot. Also I guess rsoul also has a outside shot, but I doubt it. I don't see a slam bus day 1. Guys think about it talks about I couldn't get off because it filled up to fast, but the way I was playing I.could have been like yeah slam isn't doing anything so that townie when he doesn't do anything maybe I'm wrong ill consolidate on prob's and sheep my town reads... But no I kept on and pushed the lynch. You may say my formula isn't serious but it is and it works.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 07 2015 21:59 GMT
#938
@HtS Happy Birthday if it is your birthday. If not Happy Belated Birthday
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
March 07 2015 23:00 GMT
#939
Day 3



7 March 2015
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

"Alright," I said to my partner as I was making breakfast, "we're going all out with the seafood. I have the lunch reservation and Kita made the dinner reservation for us with a group of 10 total. DP and the rest will be joining us."

"Any particular flavour to them?" my partner asked. "I mean, French, continental, fusion, like, what?"

"This is traditional," I replied, "but I'm fine with that. By the way, Koshi's going to call us shortly, he and his wife are joining us for lunch."

"After that, we're doing another vineyard tour and we get some free swag in that package...a few bottles of wine for us to enjoy. I have no complaints."

"Koshi's joining us for that?" he asked. "Or are we on our own?"

"No, actually Damdred is joining us and so is LightningStrike. He's just happy he can drink, he's legal here whereas he's not in the States. Actually, let me call them both and see when they will be ready."

I phoned LightningStrike, and clearly, he was raring to go. Sweet. Then, I rang Damdred.

The dial tone went. No answer. Again. No answer.

I pulled a memo on my smartphone that had his hotel. I dialed the number. Connected with concierge.

"May I have room 802, please?"

The phone rang. No answer.

"Well this is odd." I mentioned. "Not an early bird, but shouldn't be sleeping in this late. Absurd."

My phone rang. It was DarthPunk.

The first thing I heard were a bunch of expletives.

"What the fuck happened?" I asked.

"I'm at hospital...Damdred....he was shot last night. You need to get here ASAP. He's gone."

After that, I felt nothing. Everything faded to black.

Damdred, the festivalgoer (Vanilla Townie) has been shot!

Day 3 has begun.


Day 3 ends in 48 hours at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
At that time, the player with the most votes gets lynched.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 07 2015 23:02 GMT
#940
Onegu is so scum haha.
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