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On March 05 2015 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote: DEADLINE WILL BE 01:00 GMT (+00:00) IF THIS ISN'T COOL YOU BETTER SAY SOMETHING BEFORE THE GAME STARTS can you make it 0:00 CET? im european and cant stay up until 2 every day. | ||
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On March 05 2015 14:10 _Tormented_ wrote: Coag? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On March 05 2015 15:06 yamato77 wrote: /replace 100000% chance of modkill http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=yamato77&view=all | ||
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On March 06 2015 14:39 yamato77 wrote: right, so where do you get off asking me if I'm mafia? i vote the guy you claim to like after you make that statement | ||
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On March 06 2015 08:24 GlowingBear wrote: Ok Soren is town Because voting me like that means nothing in the first 5 minutes of the game. It actually made me think you were possibly a cute Mafia trying to get town cred for being aggressive On March 06 2015 09:31 GlowingBear wrote: I thought Soren is town because he feels like newbie town. I don't think newbie scum would be this vocal already at the beginning of the game. I also believe that he is putting clear statements in the thread which aren't actually looking fabricated, but rather fluid Also, damdy, I have no idea why you ready believe I'm mafia Reminds me of HTS in a game I can't mention *wink*. Only difference is that here the x is town conclusion is present from the first post on. | ||
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On March 06 2015 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Those posts by MM1 are just dripping with mafia. Like, I understand that Holyflare asked him how he's doing, but seriously if he wanted to type paragraphs why wasn't ANY of it about the game? Don't like this post cause VE seems so convinced on a guy being mafia just cause MM talked about something game irrelevant. I'll have to give him the opt-out to say that he said that to make him post about the game, but I'm not convinced that this is reason enough to believe MM is mafia. | ||
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On March 06 2015 16:28 Holyflare wrote: well duh it obviously doesn't make him mafia at all You talking about MM I hope | ||
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On March 06 2015 17:06 yamato77 wrote: folded meekly when responded to with a strong opinion oblivious to thread atmosphere I'm honestly thinking it's like kush or something Folded meekly? Wtf are you talking about. Thread atmosphere? What's the thread atmosphere, yamato? Are you a thread metereologist? | ||
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On March 06 2015 17:46 yamato77 wrote: you stopped responding to my condescending comments people were trolling and you were too serious the thread was a real bore to read, that was the atmosphere. And your "condescending" (?) + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2015 14:41 yamato77 wrote: It's hard to care about votes like that, you see, given that they mean essentially nothing. comments didn't invite for a reply. you are exaggerating the reasons for me being anything by calling it "meekly folding" when I don't respond to something that doesn't ask for an answer. | ||
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On March 06 2015 17:51 yamato77 wrote: you can't make a read based on the timing of someone stopping their posting you also can't assume to know how GB would act based on whether or not his read of soren changed it's just bad lol what a hypocrite | ||
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Attention: Viscera Eyes On March 06 2015 16:51 VisceraEyes wrote: It's not JUST that he was talking about thread irrelevant things. It's that thread RELEVANT things were going on, and that stuff was happening EVEN ON THAT PAGE, and he opted to instead spend characters and characters talking about his day. WHICH GRANTED, COULD BE CONSTRUED AS THE QUESTION HOLYFLARE ASKED, I just didn't like how he neglected to mention anything actually relevant. I think what's more damning though is his response - to put his hands up and say "whoa got me" rather than actually talk about the game. Can you walk me through what you found relevant, cause when I look at the same page I just see yamato and MM entering the game, and HF posting this: On March 06 2015 12:02 Holyflare wrote: i would be posting in here but none of you are talking and i'm doing the op for my mini so yeh ... someone do something interesting So smells like bs when you say that page was worthy of being analyzed, unless you can prove otherwise. | ||
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On March 06 2015 18:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: care to elaborate? It's pretty simple, for me 100 % doesn't exist like in HFs world, especially when the guy in question didn't show up to respond to the accusations so far. I'm sure not going 100 % scum on GB yet and stick my vote there no matter what happens. | ||
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On March 06 2015 18:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean what's the point of your vote if you show you are uncomfortable with the scumread in the first place? Like if i was mafia and you did that to me it would tell me you are more easily swayed and i would play more comfortably (which usually makes mafia play better). It's the best vote I can place at the moment, I'm not uncomfortable with the reasons for the scumread but I'm not 100 % sold that GB has to flip scum. And what mafia does is up to them. Disagree on the second part cause in a world where GB is mafia, they know that they can try to sway me. And I want mafia to be active and try that. | ||
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On March 06 2015 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: tbc,tatwta. lwvsam. am. fully agree | ||
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On March 06 2015 19:08 Mocsta wrote: Wat chu gonna do rayn I'm so scared ##Unvote ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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On March 06 2015 19:29 Mocsta wrote: You know I did an interesting course on leadership the other day. Many people judge others by behaviour. But behaviours are guided by values. Many values result in the same behaviour. You are judging the behaviour incorrectly. You are not fit to lead. How would you call the value leading to your behaviour. Idiocy? | ||
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On March 06 2015 19:34 Mocsta wrote: Well, like is aid before. i didnt get a confirmation. I browsed the early game, everyone was talking shit. my carefactor went down. I dont particularly have an interest to re-read it either. If that makes me mafia, so be it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but everytime i have promised to do that as mafia, i don't. This makes you mafia as well. | ||
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On March 06 2015 19:44 Mocsta wrote: yeah, precisely. instead hes trying to talk to me, to be the hero. Anyways, i voted him and its a sincere vote. and that's all you will contribute this entire day? | ||
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On March 06 2015 20:03 Mocsta wrote: im bittersweet with you. on one hand i feel sorry im making this so hard for you. - bitter on the other hand I can't believe how serious you are taking this. - sweet For you i will make an effort. mainly cos i liked you in the other game we can't speak about. i dont know when i have to leave, so ask me something you want an answer to. Hopefully i can respond tonight. Read HF's case on GB and the replies of the people who disagreed, read GB yourself, give an opinion on that. Read what VE wrote and I asked him about. Opinion etc. Please. And of course I take it seriously when you don't care. | ||
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On March 06 2015 20:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: while you are here your mom what's your opinion on cpt fail? He's not from an english speaking country, so not damdred. Unless he fakes typos and unusual expressions on purpose. His filter ends with no scumreads besides GB, and when I look at that he scumreads him right after HF. HIs explanations for the townreads don't read to me either way, but what I see lacking in them is the mindmeld argument for HF being town as well (he uses other arguments here). He used the same argument to townread Torm, but not on HF so that surprises me when they scumread GB on the same page with a few posts of distance. Might be he thought it would be too repetitive. Until I see more he sits null. | ||
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Waiting for GB. ##Unvote | ||
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On March 06 2015 20:33 Soren333 wrote: jesus christ, I wake up to 10 pages to read Welcome to TL | ||
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I also have the impression you aren't really caught up. | ||
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You also say GB does a lot of stupid shit and his reasons are bad and cause he admits it he's not scum? I don't see how that's a reason to treat him differently from CF from your PoV. If CF admits his reasoning sucks your case becomes irrelevant? | ||
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On March 06 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote: I know GB's game, I know he does stupid shit. So does VE and Hf so the read makes no sense to me Are you saying you know VE and HF do stupid shit here? Did you read my post to VE? | ||
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On March 06 2015 22:46 Mocsta wrote: FYI, i find this interesting.. or is it ^^ not interesting?? Captain Fail, doesnt include soren as a town read. Yet, thinks HF is town because he asked ppl to leave soren alone??? I think this is TMI from mafia ##Vote: captain fail Good point! | ||
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On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote: Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them. Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that. Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny. | ||
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On March 06 2015 23:38 KelsierSC wrote: Explain what you mean by low hanging fruit? That you picked people that at least somebody has already suggested for lynch, so you don't bring in any novelty, you also don't touch upon things already mentioned about these people. 2 pages to read ahead but wanted to reply to this first. | ||
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On March 07 2015 00:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, I exaggerated a bit. THAT PAGE didn't have much going on, but there had been plenty of stuff that had happened in the game to that point. Is it possible that he didn't read anything to that point? Yes. Does that make him town? He could be. Why did you exaggerate, in retrospect? | ||
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On March 07 2015 00:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Well that's convenient. The guy his case is on shows up, disappears before the guy can respond to his case. Typical. -.- Don't think he only left coz mafia, if he's mafia he'd want to stick around right now. Keep that tinfoil hat in your closet pls. | ||
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On March 07 2015 02:15 Holyflare wrote: gonna go get wasted on 0 hours of sleep, fun! don't expect anything from me till tomorrow Are you from my country? | ||
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On March 07 2015 02:25 Holyflare wrote: if anything im a bit wary of mocsta too but maybe i just don't remember how he plays, he's jumping all over little things that don't make people mafia and is very flippant based on whoever people are scum reading The flippant thing isn't a mafia trait, especially on D1. The "whoever people are scumreading" is the thing I meant with Kelsier picking the low hanging fruit. | ||
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Gonna be tough to find out who is really lynch worthy tomorrow. But I'll put everything into that, I promise. Not today cause it seems to be the "get wasted" day and for some reason I got mildly wasted as well. | ||
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And you don't have any, but soon a bullet in that empty head. If you're lucky it might end up looking like you grew hairs. | ||
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On March 07 2015 07:16 IAmRobik wrote: That's fine. Like I said -- just don't mislynch me and we're all good. I think tormented is town and i think that gb is town. I hope that rayn is town and he probably is. Are those good enough reads for you? Tormented and GB need explanations you likely won't give. Any explanation done before EoD 1 will do, if you start playing properly during N1 when it doesn't matter I will nuke you. It's up to you. Hell, I might start a bandwagon on you just to threaten your town lynch rate, except that it's not unlikely to remain unaffected cause right now you don't have a single scumread. | ||
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On March 07 2015 07:29 IAmRobik wrote: As for you nuking me...like i said -- go for it. Literally don't give a fuck as long as I don't get lynched. That would really agitate me and might get me to do something dumb. As for justifying my town reads -- i don't need to do it. You just need to accept them We'll see about that. Until I manage to arrange that, I'm going to bed. | ||
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Cause if he's town I want to see what happens when his 0 % lynched stats get threatened. | ||
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I'll try to make the case nice and formatted so you don't have to read everything, or everything at once to be convinced. # Series 1 + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2015 08:03 Soren333 wrote: I don't like this at all. Why did you write mafia in green? On March 06 2015 08:09 Soren333 wrote: Why do you find it uninteresting? ------- So I got a flood control warning from posting this. Am I going to have to deal with this throughout the entire game when I have something to say.... On March 06 2015 08:11 Soren333 wrote: It's interesting because I feel inclined to believe but at the same time I have no rational basis to believe him. What is your intent behind the holy fare attack task force? So this series of posts gives me the feels that he's trying to make his posts appear more important than they actually are.
# Series 2 + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2015 08:17 Soren333 wrote: Well Im new to this site so I don't know what the mafia culture is around here nor do I know anyone's playstyle. But I don't think a mafia would be putting so much spotlight on themselves by saying that they're town. Or maybe he didn't expect that much spotlight to be placed on him. On the other hand, as someone pointed out. The excessive n's suggests either a forceful pursuit of getting people to believe, or maybe it's because he's excited about the game and got an power role. Or maybe it something else that I haven't thought of. Or, maybe im just reading too much into it. On March 06 2015 08:21 Soren333 wrote: Not a smurf. And what do you mean by you find it cute? On March 06 2015 08:22 Soren333 wrote: What's holy fare's meta like? I'm not a siren. And why do you find my response bad? On March 06 2015 09:40 Soren333 wrote: I'm just commenting on things by inputting my thoughts.
Tone readish I would say that this guy is stiff as a broomstick and never lashes out at people. And when people he should be lashing out to lash out at him, he takes on a defensive stance. Enough tryharding for now. I think the next posts are how he complains about thread size, talks about mechanics. GB pokes at him again and gets another defensive response etc. Read my stuff then read him, it's not really much to read. If it doesn't convince you I'll go on with my impressions. If he's newb, he's mafia newb and not town newb in my opinion. | ||
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On March 07 2015 03:33 Soren333 wrote: I agree with this. GlowingBear called me cute, and then suddenly got mad out of nowhere. Looks like he didn't foresee the implications of a "joke" mafia claim. Oh and again spotlight argument doesn't apply for Gb but for HF and the first time he calls him outright mafia is after HF posts a case on him. I think this is my fav lynch for today. | ||
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On March 08 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote: Mom, can you tell me what you think of HF? Specially on the points I've brought? Can I also go with my friends to a part... ehm, park? HF is one of the guys I almost never town or scumread at D1. If he's town he will likely get killed in the first two nights, if he's still alive after that then you should start considering him as possible mafia. I found his mafia play to be fairly similar to his town play, there's a tell I use to fully decide what he is which I'm holding back cause it's too early. Whatever happens I'm not even considering him for lynch on D1. | ||
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On March 08 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Soren has a pretty big towntell in voting for gb at the start of the game. Regardless of what he gives as reasoning i don't see noob/experienced doing that given he is new to this site. The last sentence I don't understand. Most people so far have adapted to what happened in the thread and switch their votes accordingly, just Soren was the first to vote and never change his opinion when stuff was going on. I don't see why I should townread him for being the first guy in the voting thread when that's the only thing he has done in there. | ||
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On March 08 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: As per his narrative he stated he has no clue how d1's plays out here so i don't think that's scummy. As per his narrative this isn't his first game of mafia? He said specifically he's new to the site, and every game of mafia has a D1. | ||
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On March 08 2015 01:09 Mocsta wrote: Side comment. Rayn seems more focused on getting pressure off siren then advocating an alternative. I find that unusual??? It made me think of him saying something like: "don't say anything until the guy in question posts" previously. Can't remember exactly what it was about. But he's kinda done exactly that knowing Soren's in the thread, so it makes me wonder why he's treating the situation differently now. | ||
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Like, if that's the site meta Soren plays to, then the mafia on his site is likely to place votes like that as well. | ||
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Whatever site that is, I don't wanna be town on D1 there. | ||
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If you can find another reason for why he's supposed to be town I'm listening, but that filter is really void of anything substantial. | ||
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On March 08 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: You're supposed to not be so sensitive when people are just asking for clarification. Just trust me when I say that there is a reason rayn is being more careful with his statements. So no red flag for that post. Also sorry if I don't want to consider HF for scum on D1, but that's just a good decision in my opinion, and I see little value in going through a case on somebody I already decided I won't lynch. Sorry bro ![]() | ||
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On March 08 2015 00:42 Soren333 wrote: Is that a case that I see made against me. over 1 hour has passed zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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On March 07 2015 12:02 Hapahauli wrote: Vote Count: glowingbear (1): Soren333, Yes I think there are things you should be doing, if you were town | ||
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On March 08 2015 02:41 Soren333 wrote: Are people voting for KelsierSC because he jumped into the game making a few mini cases against people? And that seemed scummy because he attacked the easiest players/made easy cases? Read the thread cause making it longer for the sake of you being too lazy, and after you complained about thread length, isn't exactly smart play. Hell, your vote is stuck on GB and you contribute zero scumreads. Your only vote was placed after GB joke claimed mafia and even when I overlook the double standard your reads seem absolutely static. | ||
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Today I'd probably lynch Soren (see case and his followup), Robik (if he's mafia he's not doing anything of value, if he's town he ruins his stats for not doing anything) or MM (coinflippy but wouldn't shed a tear if he died cause he didn't do jack today). Kelsier is meh. Rereading his entrance, what I'm still wondering about is that he posts so many scumreads and ends up voting none, so not unlikely he tried to make as many as he could on the get go to avoid suspicion. If rayn wants to lynch him and manages to bring more people into the boat he can count me in. But most of all I just want to see more from these dudes. | ||
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On March 08 2015 03:25 captain fail wrote: I'm here for a bit, the case on soren is good i'm just not sure if its good because hes mafia or we are just making a newbie play look like mafia. Its really easy to do at this stage of the game. I actually hate your list here GB on people that you would want to lynch, why isn't VE on that list again? I just don't understand what your doing with all of these lists you aren't even really scum reading the lower people it feels like just a lot of policy lynches -_- So do you want to lynch Soren or not. This opinion is really unopinionated considering you called other actions of him scummy previously. | ||
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I challenge anyone to make a case for him being town. | ||
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On March 08 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I did. On March 08 2015 01:19 your mom wrote: Also rayn judges his early vote as townie by TL standards while at the same time saying that he has no clue about D1 cause of the standards of his own site. If town on his site does that then mafia does it too cause they try to emulate the town. Already said this a couple of posts ago. Whatever site that is, I don't wanna be town on D1 there. | ||
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On March 08 2015 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i don't think he is newbie. Go ask yamato or VE how other forums play mafia on D1. They played the same multi-forum game i did. Fact of the matter is that TL had a lot of newcomers from other sides in the last year or two years but all of them at least played the game to a certain degree, which included adapting your scumreads to what was going on in the thread (as town) and interacting with people not only passively. Soren isn't doing any of that and takes a purely passive stance plus all the other things I mention in my case. He claims to be in three other games, well surely not on TL, and if it's on other sites they're probably games with max 2 pages per day given he complains about 10 already. | ||
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On March 08 2015 04:40 Holyflare wrote: Not going to until you actually put effort into this game and have more reads than "rayn is probably town so I'll let 8 people carry me". You also called your mom bad for having a read on torment being mafia when that is most likely true. Soren* | ||
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On March 08 2015 04:44 IAmRobik wrote: Ive given more reads than the rayn read. Shit. I didn't evne fucking give that rayn read. I said I'm just gonna hope rayn is town and carry me. I gave a read on GB. I gave a read on torment. If you don't like the read that's fine, but it's my fucking read. There were certain posts that torment made that I didn't think a mafia would make. And yes, there is a reason to be mad...I'm getting spitevoted by you (or maybe you're just trying to push my mislynch...w/e). I'm getting voted by the PR because he doesn't know how to read me and thinks I'm mafia for no fucking reason. I'm getting voted by a brainless fucking wonder who I didn't want to play with in this first place who literally just afk's his votes on me every game, much like you. and I'm getting voted by yamato, another player that just spites me for no fucking reason. What reason is there for me to not be mad this game? The way you put it, it's like you're a victim with no fault for what is happening to him. But you had plenty of time to do something, none of the voters decided to vote for you from the start, it's just a consequence of seeing you doing nothing, and while that's something other people (Soren, MM) are also guilty of, for you it's aggravating that you're a regular player with the potential to lynch scum. | ||
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On March 08 2015 08:05 Holyflare wrote: Your mom is probably mafia for that vote switch I was having fun somewhere else, and I won't push for the guy everyone refused to vote previously when he has posted stuff I only read in a hurry. Also crazy 180 ° for your read on me just cause I voted scum when we have to vote? | ||
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IF YOU DIDNT SHOOT THEN MAFIA EITHER SHOT ONE OF THEIR OWN OR IS AFK. | ||
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On March 09 2015 07:28 Damdred wrote: Hf isn't Scum here I think, he wouldn't no shoot. Also if you were rb claim it would be helpful to me pls read the op man. It's a damn mini mafia | ||
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On March 09 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote: Meh, IDK he steeped Rayn really easily, yam voted Rob for bad reasons I think those were hilarious reasons. If yamato is scum he managed to actually appear really carefree, so I'll go ahead and think he's town. Moc moc on the other hand has some oddities in his filter. | ||
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Literally no way HF doesn't shoot at night rofl. | ||
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On March 07 2015 23:44 Mocsta wrote: yeah, potentially scummy. Hasnt gone out of his way to offer information to the thread i dont know where he stands on items. like.. i cant remember the thread convo, but the comment below about soren seems out of place in a filter dive. tl;dr if i had to make a point against tormented, it is that his filter feigns real contribution. draws superficial points, and then asks questions back to the thread for others to fill the gap. as evidenced below i suppose its interesting why tormented wants to know about robik as well given: GB is leaning town & Robik has done "nothing" what will GB reasoning illuminate? On March 08 2015 00:45 Mocsta wrote: lol... i had to type it out and then realied. he saysing mafia dont want spotlight, hence, you shouldnt be mafia. yeah, aftger rereading his reponse about hf being town or not... its valid. trying to appease rayn and give out as little as possible. i can swing this way. happy to vote between kelsier or soren. Here, one of the reasons Moc is mafia, he doesn't consider Torm for lynch. Plus the awful entrance. Plus he tries really hard to mimic town opinion in order to survive. | ||
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On March 09 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Am i mafia too because i didn't consider Torment for lynch? Mocsta voted Kelsier with me.... Moc generally buddied the fuck out of you, be careful for what reason you give him a pass. You two are like Sandro and Syllo so just think about this: If he wanted to survive, would he better be off going against you or with you? | ||
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On March 09 2015 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i don't get why he calls Tormented mafia if he doesn't wanna bus him but his other partner? Like throw the whole fucking team under the bus at the same time? Do you think Mocsta is this dumb? Not dumb but possibly frustrated with the "matchmaking". | ||
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On March 09 2015 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Or then he is just town and has decent reads? ![]() Nah man. His entrance is still stuck in my mind. I think he's the last mafia. | ||
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If I were, then...Wifomwifomwifomwifom | ||
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That's what you get for coming in late. | ||
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We write the year 2015. The game has been reduced to ego wars between the surviving townies. Team lynch-mocsta and team lynch-yamato. Only one of these can be victorious. | ||
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There's like 95 % chance only town posted so far during this day. | ||
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On March 09 2015 22:09 marvellosity wrote: Strong town players playing strongly against a lamentable mafia team. Predictable results ensued. Yea they deserved rayn or HF or moc-moc at least :/. GB also good scum. Yamato did a really decent job at appearing townie until he afkd, that actually surprised me. Sorry moc moc, that scumread had more wanting to be right than being right in it. | ||
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On March 10 2015 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: So your mom are you Clarity? Or Vivax? just a guy who is happy when he doesnt need a new smurf | ||
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On March 10 2015 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Idk this is still my favourite post of the game You can nominate it for funniest post along with the line where he says that if he was Damdred he'd probably be mafia. | ||
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