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your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 21:55 GMT
#592
I'm vigi and I'm shooting Robik tonight. First cause he's an asshat that doesn't contribute anything of use, second cause he dared to post a dead baby seal and should be killed with fire. What a shit of a player.
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your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#598
Don't like Torm either when I check his filter.
Gonna be tough to find out who is really lynch worthy tomorrow.
But I'll put everything into that, I promise. Not today cause it seems to be the "get wasted" day and for some reason I got mildly wasted as well.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#601
On March 07 2015 07:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 07:08 your mom wrote:
Don't like Torm either when I check his filter.
Gonna be tough to find out who is really lynch worthy tomorrow.
But I'll put everything into that, I promise. Not today cause it seems to be the "get wasted" day and for some reason I got mildly wasted as well.

i think your reads suck


And you don't have any, but soon a bullet in that empty head.
If you're lucky it might end up looking like you grew hairs.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#602
You're too bald for my taste
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 22:14 GMT
#603
ebwop: bold
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 22:22 GMT
#605
On March 07 2015 07:16 IAmRobik wrote:
That's fine. Like I said -- just don't mislynch me and we're all good. I think tormented is town and i think that gb is town. I hope that rayn is town and he probably is.

Are those good enough reads for you?


Tormented and GB need explanations you likely won't give.
Any explanation done before EoD 1 will do, if you start playing properly during N1 when it doesn't matter I will nuke you.

It's up to you.
Hell, I might start a bandwagon on you just to threaten your town lynch rate, except that it's not unlikely to remain unaffected cause right now you don't have a single scumread.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 06 2015 22:33 GMT
#608
On March 07 2015 07:29 IAmRobik wrote:
As for you nuking me...like i said -- go for it. Literally don't give a fuck as long as I don't get lynched. That would really agitate me and might get me to do something dumb.

As for justifying my town reads -- i don't need to do it. You just need to accept them


We'll see about that.
Until I manage to arrange that, I'm going to bed.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 11:02 GMT
#672
Yesterday was the official get wasted-day, FYI, I also participated.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 11:06 GMT
#674
Anyway voted Robik.
Cause if he's town I want to see what happens when his 0 % lynched stats get threatened.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 11:14 GMT
#676
It's not even that many pages for a D1 on TL, I think I'll bother to reread the entire game.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 15:00 GMT
#698
Actually played some other game with friends instead of rereading the whole game, but while doing that at least for D1 start and Soren's filter I got a new impression of Soren, a mafiaish one I didn't notice at first read of D1 start. Anyway I'm not willing to give him a newbie BotD for the stuff to follow.

I'll try to make the case nice and formatted so you don't have to read everything, or everything at once to be convinced.

# Series 1

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On March 06 2015 08:02 Soren333 wrote:
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On March 06 2015 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
still townnnn

Interesting.


On March 06 2015 08:03 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 08:02 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!
I'm mafia!

I don't like this at all.

Why did you write mafia in green?

On March 06 2015 08:09 Soren333 wrote:
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On March 06 2015 08:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:02 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
still townnnn

Interesting.


^ not interesting

Why do you find it uninteresting?

-------

So I got a flood control warning from posting this.

Am I going to have to deal with this throughout the entire game when I have something to say....


On March 06 2015 08:11 Soren333 wrote:
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On March 06 2015 08:03 captain fail wrote:
Why is that interesting.

Will you join me on this hf attack force

It's interesting because I feel inclined to believe but at the same time I have no rational basis to believe him.

What is your intent behind the holy fare attack task force?


So this series of posts gives me the feels that he's trying to make his posts appear more important than they actually are.

  1. Him finding HF's post interesting is one example of that, but has no influence on his reads.
  2. Him not liking GB writing that suggests he finds it dramatic, but it really isn't. He doesn't scumread GB at all afterwards.
  3. Glowingbear makes a cool move in this regard and doesn't go into that comment about himself, instead challenges Soren on his HF post. All Soren thinks of is to ask him "why", even though he just claimed to not like his post. So pretty underwhelming post in the moment he has the chance to interact more with his suspect. Instead he takes a passive, defensive stance and limits himself to a question.
  4. When CF asks him why it's interesting, he gives somewhat a satisfying answer at glance, so I'll just conclude that HF sits null. But that kinda makes the whole interesting thing uninteresting, so I have to guess that he just posted it for the sake of posting something and make it appear important in a stage where everyone else was waaaay less serious. Also he sees the vote on HF excessively serious, which is mafiaish on page 1.


# Series 2

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On March 06 2015 08:17 Soren333 wrote:
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On March 06 2015 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you believe Holyflare is town or still town?

Well Im new to this site so I don't know what the mafia culture is around here nor do I know anyone's playstyle.

But I don't think a mafia would be putting so much spotlight on themselves by saying that they're town. Or maybe he didn't expect that much spotlight to be placed on him.

On the other hand, as someone pointed out. The excessive n's suggests either a forceful pursuit of getting people to believe, or maybe it's because he's excited about the game and got an power role. Or maybe it something else that I haven't thought of. Or, maybe im just reading too much into it.


On March 06 2015 08:21 Soren333 wrote:
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On March 06 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:07 captain fail wrote:
Glowing bear what do you think of soren voting you actually


I find it cute
Is he a smurf?

Not a smurf.

And what do you mean by you find it cute?


On March 06 2015 08:22 Soren333 wrote:
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On March 06 2015 08:13 captain fail wrote:
Hf is arguably the best player in thread and loves the attention an attack gives. We must vet him

However sirens response is bad

What's holy fare's meta like?

I'm not a siren. And why do you find my response bad?


On March 06 2015 09:40 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Soren what's your actual intention behind the posts you have made?
I mean the posts from "interesting" to the post where you say you have no idea what Holyflare's alignment is?

I'm just commenting on things by inputting my thoughts.





  1. The first thing I think of when he says that "mafia wouldn't put so much spotlight on them" is him saying he doesn't like GB for saying he's mafia. Of the two between HF and GB, who do you think attempted harder to put the spotlight onto himself? Right. And who gets scum- and who gets townread? Right. In the later part of his post he focuses on the amount of n's and then invalidates his own reasoning by saying he might be reading too much into it. So that's sort of wishy washy and the n's are absolutely irrelevant.
  2. GB pokes at him saying he finds him cute. Again just a passive response to the guy he claimed to not like, and who has challenged him twice already.
  3. He asks a rather pointless question about HF's meta, although this is my opinion. It just fits into the general feeling that this guy doesn't manage to pay attention to the "right" things. Again he replies in a defensive way after being asked something.
  4. Rayn asks him a good question, gets answered with some generic stuff


Tone readish I would say that this guy is stiff as a broomstick and never lashes out at people. And when people he should be lashing out to lash out at him, he takes on a defensive stance.

Enough tryharding for now. I think the next posts are how he complains about thread size, talks about mechanics. GB pokes at him again and gets another defensive response etc. Read my stuff then read him, it's not really much to read. If it doesn't convince you I'll go on with my impressions. If he's newb, he's mafia newb and not town newb in my opinion.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 15:08 GMT
#700
On March 07 2015 03:33 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 14:27 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2015 14:23 _Tormented_ wrote:
On March 06 2015 14:21 Holyflare wrote:
why is nobody voting gb? he's obvious mafia at this point in time


He may very well be, but training anyone at this time unless we are certain they are scum will just limit our information going forward. If he is mafia, do you think that makes soren town for sure?


he's certain mafia though!

On March 06 2015 08:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok Soren is town
Because voting me like that means nothing in the first 5 minutes of the game. It actually made me think you were possibly a cute Mafia trying to get town cred for being aggressive

On March 06 2015 09:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I thought Soren is town because he feels like newbie town. I don't think newbie scum would be this vocal already at the beginning of the game. I also believe that he is putting clear statements in the thread which aren't actually looking fabricated, but rather fluid

Also, damdy, I have no idea why you ready believe I'm mafia

On March 06 2015 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:49 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:37 _Tormented_ wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:03 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:02 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!
I'm mafia!

I don't like this at all.

Why did you write mafia in green?


Did you you vote him for this reason alone? o.O

Isn't day 1 just RVS anyways where votes don't have a strong conviction to back it up?

Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?


Hm. This is bad.

Why voting me at all in the first place?
You're also showing you have some knowledge in Mafia, which contradicts the "I am newbie" statement


I voted you because I didn't like how you claim to be mafia. Joking or not it causes confusions. If we take it as a joke, you're left of the hook. Either way I don't like it.

And all I said was that I am new to the site. I never said that I was new to mafia.


This is bullshit

It's a standard opening. You can simply call it null indicative.

It makes no sense to like HF's entrance claiming town and don't like my entrance saying I'm Mafia.

Like, the game isn't that simple.



much fake progression! has a newbie town read on soren based on silly things he shouldn't be town read on (even though I pointed out that he shouldn't be town reading him) then gets mad that he's making newbie town mistakes (even if he's said he's played some mafia elsewhere the rng day 1 comment and that above quote should be more than enough reason to realise he's still just a newbie) and that reaction was so ott!


I agree with this. GlowingBear called me cute, and then suddenly got mad out of nowhere.

Looks like he didn't foresee the implications of a "joke" mafia claim.


Oh and again spotlight argument doesn't apply for Gb but for HF and the first time he calls him outright mafia is after HF posts a case on him.

I think this is my fav lynch for today.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 15:39 GMT
#706
On March 08 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Mom, can you tell me what you think of HF? Specially on the points I've brought?

Can I also go with my friends to a part... ehm, park?


HF is one of the guys I almost never town or scumread at D1. If he's town he will likely get killed in the first two nights, if he's still alive after that then you should start considering him as possible mafia. I found his mafia play to be fairly similar to his town play, there's a tell I use to fully decide what he is which I'm holding back cause it's too early. Whatever happens I'm not even considering him for lynch on D1.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 15:47 GMT
#712
On March 08 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Soren has a pretty big towntell in voting for gb at the start of the game.
Regardless of what he gives as reasoning i don't see noob/experienced doing that given he is new to this site.


The last sentence I don't understand.
Most people so far have adapted to what happened in the thread and switch their votes accordingly, just Soren was the first to vote and never change his opinion when stuff was going on. I don't see why I should townread him for being the first guy in the voting thread when that's the only thing he has done in there.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 15:50 GMT
#716
On March 08 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 00:47 your mom wrote:
On March 08 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Soren has a pretty big towntell in voting for gb at the start of the game.
Regardless of what he gives as reasoning i don't see noob/experienced doing that given he is new to this site.


The last sentence I don't understand.
Most people so far have adapted to what happened in the thread and switch their votes accordingly, just Soren was the first to vote and never change his opinion when stuff was going on. I don't see why I should townread him for being the first guy in the voting thread when that's the only thing he has done in there.

As per his narrative he stated he has no clue how d1's plays out here so i don't think that's scummy.


As per his narrative this isn't his first game of mafia? He said specifically he's new to the site, and every game of mafia has a D1.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#723
On March 08 2015 01:09 Mocsta wrote:
Side comment.

Rayn seems more focused on getting pressure off siren then advocating an alternative.

I find that unusual???


It made me think of him saying something like: "don't say anything until the guy in question posts" previously. Can't remember exactly what it was about. But he's kinda done exactly that knowing Soren's in the thread, so it makes me wonder why he's treating the situation differently now.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 16:13 GMT
#724
I have no idea why he feels so strongly about Soren being town that he would go out of his way to defend him based on a single vote.

Like, if that's the site meta Soren plays to, then the mafia on his site is likely to place votes like that as well.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 16:19 GMT
#728
Also rayn judges his early vote as townie by TL standards while at the same time saying that he has no clue about D1 cause of the standards of his own site. If town on his site does that then mafia does it too cause they try to emulate the town. Already said this a couple of posts ago.

Whatever site that is, I don't wanna be town on D1 there.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 16:22 GMT
#730
Not scumreading rayn cause of this however, I think he might simply be too generous with the newbie card and then tries to defend his read.
If you can find another reason for why he's supposed to be town I'm listening, but that filter is really void of anything substantial.
your mom
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
262 Posts
March 07 2015 16:36 GMT
#740
On March 08 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to be more civil and just not yell my way through.
I have tried that twice before after doing something really stupid.
Every time i do it i get scumread/lynched for it -- and only for it.

So fuck you, what am supposed to do? People don't like my aggressive playstyle but if i play like this it doesn't work either -- apparently. While the content is same....


You're supposed to not be so sensitive when people are just asking for clarification.


Just trust me when I say that there is a reason rayn is being more careful with his statements.
So no red flag for that post.

Also sorry if I don't want to consider HF for scum on D1, but that's just a good decision in my opinion, and I see little value in going through a case on somebody I already decided I won't lynch. Sorry bro . But I like that you try to make yourself heard, so there's that.
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