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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 08:52 GMT
#332
On March 06 2015 17:48 Holyflare wrote:
nah I haven't, there's some scenarios here:

a) Either GB thinks he is a newbie town in which case he wouldn't be mad at a newbie town for having a read like that at all, especially as he coaches and stuff in newbie games and I'm sure would be much more approachable.

b) GB thinks he is mafia in which case he wouldn't be yelling about the read being bad and would 100% be following up by calling him mafia. Since you were talking about thread atmosphere, the thread was absolutely dead at that point so he just left because he didn't need to do anything.

You're telling me town GB thought he saw a newbie with a bad read and yelled at him for no reason and then left after that without talking about it?

leaving is not alignment indicative at all here....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:02 GMT
#339
On March 06 2015 15:22 your mom wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote GB

On March 06 2015 15:40 your mom wrote:
I'm not fully sold that GB is mafia like you are HF, how much wiggle room do you give yourself to reconsider, or are you not going to consider anyone else for today.


care to elaborate?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:04 GMT
#342
lol where did he say he is going to sleep?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:10 GMT
#346
I mean what's the point of your vote if you show you are uncomfortable with the scumread in the first place?
Like if i was mafia and you did that to me it would tell me you are more easily swayed and i would play more comfortably (which usually makes mafia play better).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:14 GMT
#347
On March 06 2015 18:05 your mom wrote:
Attention: Viscera Eyes


Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 15:56 your mom wrote:
On March 06 2015 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Those posts by MM1 are just dripping with mafia. Like, I understand that Holyflare asked him how he's doing, but seriously if he wanted to type paragraphs why wasn't ANY of it about the game?


Don't like this post cause VE seems so convinced on a guy being mafia just cause MM talked about something game irrelevant.

I'll have to give him the opt-out to say that he said that to make him post about the game, but I'm not convinced that this is reason enough to believe MM is mafia.

It's not JUST that he was talking about thread irrelevant things. It's that thread RELEVANT things were going on, and that stuff was happening EVEN ON THAT PAGE, and he opted to instead spend characters and characters talking about his day. WHICH GRANTED, COULD BE CONSTRUED AS THE QUESTION HOLYFLARE ASKED, I just didn't like how he neglected to mention anything actually relevant.

I think what's more damning though is his response - to put his hands up and say "whoa got me" rather than actually talk about the game.


Can you walk me through what you found relevant, cause when I look at the same page I just see yamato and MM entering the game, and HF posting this:

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 12:02 Holyflare wrote:
i would be posting in here but none of you are talking and i'm doing the op for my mini so yeh ... someone do something interesting


So smells like bs when you say that page was worthy of being analyzed, unless you can prove otherwise.

I actually want to hear VE's answer to this question aswell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:16 GMT
#349
tbc,tatwta.
lwvsam.
am.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:22 GMT
#352
On March 06 2015 18:14 your mom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 18:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean what's the point of your vote if you show you are uncomfortable with the scumread in the first place?
Like if i was mafia and you did that to me it would tell me you are more easily swayed and i would play more comfortably (which usually makes mafia play better).


It's the best vote I can place at the moment, I'm not uncomfortable with the reasons for the scumread but I'm not 100 % sold that GB has to flip scum. And what mafia does is up to them. Disagree on the second part cause in a world where GB is mafia, they know that they can try to sway me. And I want mafia to be active and try that.

meh.. Maybe it's just differing opinion then.

In my opinion it's much harder to even try to sway someone who in your (mafia) opinion is sold on you being mafia, especially if there are multiple people who feel the same way. A lot of people just give up at that point as scum, or at least don't care about that much any more because as scum you (imo at least should) analyze what are your / your teammate's chances of surviving and what are the routes you can take to make the surviving happen.

If you feel like there is no way out it is more likely you go overboard which makes you more scummy.

That is also why i voted for GlowingBear. Yes of course there are some holes in HolyFlare's case, there is very rarely going to be a 100% foolproof case on someone being mafia, but even pointing out there are holes (if you think it's possible the dude is scum) is not wise in my opinion.

I can actually say this now because the "how GlowingBear will react" is irrelevant as yamato already made a contradicting argument to Holyflare's case. Assuming Holyflare is town, GB knows there is a way out sooo.. the initial (next) reaction means not that much purely reactionwise (as yamato is pretty damn sure to be town).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:23 GMT
#353
On March 06 2015 18:17 your mom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tbc,tatwta.
lwvsam.
am.


fully agree

i'll explain that post later.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:26 GMT
#355
I think there is quite a high chance Mocsta is scum aswell.
The trolling phase is over already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 09:49 GMT
#356
On March 06 2015 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
your mum is like 1000% town by the way, legit read from cell!

yes i agree with this, he is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:11 GMT
#358
Are you going to play this game or not?
If you are, please start playing then. If you are not you can go hang.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:27 GMT
#363
Mocsta:

I'd assume around here is timezonewise your "prime time" for playing mafia.
You also like to interact with people in real time rather than reading the thread and then post conclusions/questions.
You also like to interact with me.

My problem here with your trolling is that timezonewise NOW is your chance to do that, with me. I can't really understand why would you decide not to do that as town here...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:31 GMT
#370
There hasn't been a game where we haven't talked at least a decent amount with each other regardless of what our reads on each other / alignments have been.

Except for Really Small mafia and the game where someone vigged you on N1 (probably TL Mafia LXI), in both of those games you were mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:35 GMT
#374
In fact the other game was TL Mafia LXIII
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:36 GMT
#375
On March 06 2015 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There hasn't been a game where we haven't talked at least a decent amount with each other regardless of what our reads on each other / alignments have been.

Except for Really Small mafia and the game where someone vigged you on N1 (probably TL Mafia LXI), in both of those games you were mafia.

Well, like is aid before. i didnt get a confirmation. I browsed the early game, everyone was talking shit.
my carefactor went down.
I dont particularly have an interest to re-read it either.

If that makes me mafia, so be it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but everytime i have promised to do that as mafia, i don't.

dude the game is like 15 pages....
you could have done the reading in the timespan you have trolled right here right now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:37 GMT
#378
like you have been here for an hour now...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:40 GMT
#380
We are asking you to play the game and you are just shitting up the thread instead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:46 GMT
#388
On March 06 2015 19:43 your mom wrote:
tbh im wondering why rayn didn't vote you yet

Because i don't know what his alignment is.
I think it's certainly possible he is just being an ass towards me because it's me who is asking him to play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:46 GMT
#389
So Mocsta am i mafia for being reasonable?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 10:50 GMT
#392
On March 06 2015 19:49 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta am i mafia for being reasonable?
yes

we all know that "back to school" is your reference to be measured by.

yeah maybe you should just come back tomorrow.
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