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On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.
Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me
Honestly I like the work you put in to start the game with, I just hate the parts about me honestly. You took a path that wasn't going down just seemed at points you didn't read a few things or misconstrued things at a point.
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On March 06 2015 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Well you townread hf because he wasn't pushing the thread his way but the games ive played with hf as town he like bullies the thread to go his way.
Not always, I've noticed some things that HF has done as scum that indicate what he did earlier comes more from a town hf than scum hf.
And it just depends, I've seen town HF be more laid back earlier letting the thread develop and bully later after more things have happened and the reverse as scum.
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On March 06 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 23:22 captain fail wrote:On March 06 2015 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2015 23:15 captain fail wrote:
I actually disagree with that. HF at town could tell people in early game don't do X to give Y more time, it doesn't tie their alignments together at all.
Your trying to split hairs You are right it doesn't, but you read Holyflare town and that was one of your reasons. I can read someone as town for an action that they do or a combination of things. People can scum defend and be still town read to how they approach things, they could defend town. soren is null made a few bad posts hes a newb here what I see as bad can be newb. One of the reasons you read Holyflare town for was "I like your tone you told people to leave soren alone for a moment instead of s allowing us to pile on him." If you do not think Soren is town your read on Holyflare does not make any sense because if they are both mafia he would be protecting his scumbuddy from being attacked, which should be a concern for you. How much mafia have you played? How many games approx?
You make it seem like that is the only reason I townread HF when I gave more than one reason at that point.
Also your second point isn't necessarily true at all, I in no way said that soren isn't town and I didn't say he isn't scum hes a null newb who made bad posts. And HF is a busser rayn he doesn't defend a floundering partner don't give me that crap
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On March 06 2015 23:33 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 23:29 captain fail wrote:On March 06 2015 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Well you townread hf because he wasn't pushing the thread his way but the games ive played with hf as town he like bullies the thread to go his way.
Not always, I've noticed some things that HF has done as scum that indicate what he did earlier comes more from a town hf than scum hf. And it just depends, I've seen town HF be more laid back earlier letting the thread develop and bully later after more things have happened and the reverse as scum. What things specifically make him more town than scum?
Tone, how hes interacting in the thread currently
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On March 06 2015 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 23:51 Mocsta wrote:On March 06 2015 23:48 KelsierSC wrote:On March 06 2015 23:38 KelsierSC wrote:On March 06 2015 23:36 your mom wrote:On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.
Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny. Explain what you mean by low hanging fruit? means u grabbed the fruit on the tree that was easiest. i.e. low so nomladder o.e. u made no effort and cpmmented abou ppl cos they looked bad, not cos they are mafia Who is the low hanging fruit? Specifically?
me probably kel? I don't think VE is low hanging fruit
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I kind of think mocsta is mafia.
He's really jumpy his reads are interesting, rayn mafia noe rayn top town in a very small space. Then hr basically becomes rayns hype man it feels like. Kind of weird.
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GB I think that you are more than likely town in all of this mess that I have to go through to find the grain of truth in it. (Hint I do see one grain in what you are saying and something that HF did)
Firstly I disagree with what you disagreed with me on. For example he feeds into Rayn a bit that Kel is mafia at one point he even says "Oh rayn will get you" basically, he tries to get Rayn really on a roll tunneled on Kel when he was unable to fully get Rayn focused on me. He in fact said several times Captain should be the one voted off today, but when it was obviousy rayn was going on kel he switched to go along with thread sentiment at that moment and pushed Rayn little by little in that direction. Does that specifically make him mafia? Maybe, I think it makes him scummy in my eyes for sure.
Also your case on HF is mostly weak, I think the strongest point is him backing off of the scum read. I can remember him doing something similar to Damdred in Linux mafia and claim its to get conversation started, so you do have a point there. The rest i'm not so sure yet nor do I know if HF should be the lynch today. But i'm willing to listen and reread him and what you have to say about it.
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On March 07 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is where I'm at right now, in order:
Yamato
Rayn
Kelsier
Torment
Soren
Captain Fail
VE
your mom
Mocsta
Robik
Holyflate
Also why do you not have ocsta red on this list when you just called him mafia a page or two ago?
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Actually i'm taking back that you are probable town at this point now. After rereading some of the things you said.
Why did you make the point about VE saying MM is dripping scum but shifts to you effortlessly but you have him above Your mom mocsta and the like and you never really bring any conclussions of that just kind of throw it out there.
Why is your mom so far down your list at this point when he was clearely going against one of your top scum reads in Robik?
You were going hard against soren why is he so far up the list now?
Why Kel so high?
Like your list doesn't make sense at all to me?
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Actually it foes matter since your mom said he's shooting robik lol, day one bus usually seldom happen in that form perhaps but I digress on that point.
you always call hf mafia as well sometimes you are right sometimes not, you also call damdred and robik mafia s ton. But now someone else in the same category you want to give more time to? When you just made this case ok hf when he's guilty of the same thing as ve by your standards.
Your big yelling and anger fit at the start of the game is going hard...idk what else to say about that.
Your last point id laughable as mafia can easily defend a player for that exact reason and not blink.
Honestly this list is horrible and bad reasons, you fall back to scum
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On March 07 2015 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 12:23 captain fail wrote:
Actually it foes matter since your mom said he's shooting robik lol, day one bus usually seldom happen in that form perhaps but I digress on that point.
you always call hf mafia as well sometimes you are right sometimes not, you also call damdred and robik mafia s ton. But now someone else in the same category you want to give more time to? When you just made this case ok hf when he's guilty of the same thing as ve by your standards.
Your big yelling and anger fit at the start of the game is going hard...idk what else to say about that.
Your last point id laughable as mafia can easily defend a player for that exact reason and not blink.
Honestly this list is horrible and bad reasons, you fall back to scum I've never being able to read VE properly and he hasn't played much with me and he hasn't touched the topic of 180 reads flip with me. I'm not comfortable with reading VE that way. Mafia can easily defend a player to get town cred, yes. Will them do that when there is a free lynch going on? Could be, but less probable. Will a Mafia defend a free mislynch then go against of one of the most vocal and strong players in the thread, one that is somewhat emotional, and that never got suspicion thrown at? Way less probable. Damdy, pls.
Not damdred.
Also how does what you say here about ve fit with how you read kel? You say previously that kel was right and be has played with you to not scum read you here bit you say the inverse here.
Also your whole posting from cute to ranty posts and going to bed sounded angry
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I'm here for a bit, the case on soren is good i'm just not sure if its good because hes mafia or we are just making a newbie play look like mafia. Its really easy to do at this stage of the game.
I actually hate your list here GB on people that you would want to lynch, why isn't VE on that list again? I just don't understand what your doing with all of these lists you aren't even really scum reading the lower people it feels like just a lot of policy lynches -_-
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GB thinks i'm obviously Damdred a he refers to me as Damdred in almost every post.
From past experience GB has a really good read on damdred and knows his meta very well, but has me only as a lower tier lynch for bad play. Now if I was Damdred, that would be really mafia indicative. GB would know this but doesn't push this angle or the meta, usually he would harp on this until it was into the ground.
So why am I just an outside shot, when its pretty obvious that Rob is town here even if hes over extended?
I think GB has a pretty good shot at being scum here
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Also to YM, I don't know if i'm the best judge of what is a newb mistake and what is legit scummy.he hasn't done anything that's screamed town this cycle though.
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On March 08 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 05:21 captain fail wrote:
GB thinks i'm obviously Damdred a he refers to me as Damdred in almost every post.
From past experience GB has a really good read on damdred and knows his meta very well, but has me only as a lower tier lynch for bad play. Now if I was Damdred, that would be really mafia indicative. GB would know this but doesn't push this angle or the meta, usually he would harp on this until it was into the ground.
So why am I just an outside shot, when its pretty obvious that Rob is town here even if hes over extended?
I think GB has a pretty good shot at being scum here Why are you town if not damdred. Like do you think he is superior to you as town?
I think damdred has a pretty obvious town meta where hes involved in everything and says smart things. I am neither at this point and if gb thinks i'm damdred why isn't he voting me since I would be playing to his meta? doesn't even push me
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On March 08 2015 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 05:26 captain fail wrote:On March 08 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 08 2015 05:21 captain fail wrote:
GB thinks i'm obviously Damdred a he refers to me as Damdred in almost every post.
From past experience GB has a really good read on damdred and knows his meta very well, but has me only as a lower tier lynch for bad play. Now if I was Damdred, that would be really mafia indicative. GB would know this but doesn't push this angle or the meta, usually he would harp on this until it was into the ground.
So why am I just an outside shot, when its pretty obvious that Rob is town here even if hes over extended?
I think GB has a pretty good shot at being scum here Why are you town if not damdred. Like do you think he is superior to you as town? I think damdred has a pretty obvious town meta where hes involved in everything and says smart things. I am neither at this point and if gb thinks i'm damdred why isn't he voting me since I would be playing to his meta? doesn't even push me So why are you not saying smart things?
I've said a couple of good things like this good point.
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GB why aren't you pushing for my lynch?
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Robik wasn't a scummy lurker, robik is more than likely flipping town.
You lynch the scum in front of you not the one down the road. If you think i'm scum, why am I so far down your list?
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GB whats your updated list of scum currently?
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On March 08 2015 02:19 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 08 2015 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:On March 08 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 08 2015 01:37 GlowingBear wrote:On March 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 08 2015 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On March 06 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think there is quite a high chance Mocsta is scum aswell.
The trolling phase is over already. I mean, it's a 180 flip Read my filter. Youre being fucking annoying right now and i am soon losing my cool because of it. You say stuff thats really fucking dumb. "I'm reading Mocsta as scum" "I no longer read Mocsta as scum (REASON UNKNOWN)" Just stop being a bitch and help me here? I'm not trying to lynch you, you know? That was when mocsta was not playing. Since he started playing i have agreed on almost all of the things with him. Isn't that fucking obvious why i townread him? Does everything need to be written for you to aknowledge it? Yes, because reading someone town just because he came active and started saying things you agree with is lame. Anyway, if kelsier is not the lynch today, who would you be willing to lynch, Rayn? So i should scumread ppl who agree with me on the people i wanna lynch? Kelsier is the lynch today. I am not going to push anything else. I have already said i also think mm1 is mafia but i am not going to push anything but kelsier. I'm just saying you can simply put the guy under null alignment category, instead of giving him a town pass. Whatever. People I can lynch today: HF Robik MM1 Soren People I may consider lynching today: Captain Fail (uninspiring gameplay) Tormented (lurker policy lynching) Yamato (I thought he is town for gut feeling mostly, now I am reconsidering it because he came to the thread just to say he won't be active - also a lurker policy lynching) Maybs Kelsier (if he doesn't step up, but I would prefer to give him a pass since he had some townie traits in his filter. Also lurker policy lynching) That's it.
Is this still the most updated one? still pretty secure in this?
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