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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 09 2015 17:33 GMT
#1474
On March 10 2015 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 02:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 10 2015 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The thing is Kelsier made a case that didn't make any sense.
Like i could get what he said from towbn perspective in case he is considering possibilities. But one of his reasons was "VE is trying to pocket rayn - that's why VE is mafia". That's what he said in his case.

He can't possibly think VE is mafia for pocketing me if he does not think i am town, because then there is no pocketing.


The problem is: what if he simply thought you were actually town?

Anyway, the problem I had here is that he defended me and went against VE, strong and vocal player. Sounded like too suicidal to be Mafia.

On the other hand, filters like tormented, mm1 and a little of Soren sounded more plausible

Why? I love VE dearly but he's not known for relentlessly getting his targets lynched.

VE was really fucking townie in this game from the beginning (and has been lately).
In fact Kelsier's read on VE should have been the opposite. He was my first strong townread. An easy one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 09 2015 17:46 GMT
#1478
Hell i even gave him an out (which was also a trap but i kinda went all-in ^^ ):
On March 06 2015 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 22:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh he shouldn't have read you town for the reason he did.

How does this make sense given these are the facts:
- VE townreads me
- You townread me
- VE thinks my case is good
- You think my case is good

how?

Now he has two things to do. I intentionally didn't speak about the other part ("VE pocketing me" - argument), so:
1) Kelsier says "i don't read you as town" -> he is mafia
2) Kelsier says "while you can be wrong on your read and VE agreeing with you is scummy because [insert some reasons]" -> if the reasons are okay(ish) he is probably town.

He took the easy, no-need-to-think-way out.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 09 2015 17:48 GMT
#1479
GlowingBear, the thing is whoever he makes his case on does not matter.
The case wasn't a townie case because (1) VE was really obviously town, (2) the pocketing shit and (3) to me it looked like he wasn't really reading VE mafia but still ended up on a "conclusion" (i can't really explain this, but that's how i felt when i read his posts about VE).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 09 2015 18:14 GMT
#1483
Yeah basically the situation he would put himself in makes no sense if he is mafia.
Everyone knows his meta and HF doesn't except to get cop checked there?
Of course you can try to snipe the cop or smth but the again why are you alive in LYLO?

It just didn't make any sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 09 2015 21:24 GMT
#1489
I want to nominate Soren for "please play again as soon as possible" award.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 09 2015 21:30 GMT
#1491
There was really no need to breadcrumb the check though.
But yes, he played very well. He voted for mafia on D1 despite coming from different environment and looked really town all game long (at least to me).
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