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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:13 GMT
#254
On February 28 2015 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
for the record i asked a legit question.


let me summarize your play for you thus far:

this guy is town with no explanation!
this guy is mafia with no explanation!
this guy is weird!
this guy is town with no explanation!
obvious town is mafia!
you're mafia for commenting on something that was already commented on!
oh you proved me wrong....time to find a new reason!
you didn't explain your reads just like me!
look I am being a bag of dicks!
I didn't read anything you typed!
you asked me questions and responded to things but I am ignoring them!
well you're town!
no wait, mafia!
I'M MAD THAT YOU'RE IGNORING ME RAWWWWWWRRR I AM RAYN RAWWWWRRRR!
notice me senpai!

I think it is a pretty accurate account.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:21 GMT
#259
On February 28 2015 08:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:13 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
for the record i asked a legit question.


let me summarize your play for you thus far:

this guy is town with no explanation!
this guy is mafia with no explanation!
this guy is weird!
this guy is town with no explanation!
obvious town is mafia!
you're mafia for commenting on something that was already commented on!
oh you proved me wrong....time to find a new reason!
you didn't explain your reads just like me!
look I am being a bag of dicks!
I didn't read anything you typed!
you asked me questions and responded to things but I am ignoring them!
well you're town!
no wait, mafia!
I'M MAD THAT YOU'RE IGNORING ME RAWWWWWWRRR I AM RAYN RAWWWWRRRR!
notice me senpai!

I think it is a pretty accurate account.

False.

He made a good case on trifezl.


Yeah it's pretty okay, it's the primary reason why I think rayn might just be a bag of dicks instead of mafia. But when going for comedic effect, you can't toss in all the positive attributes....ruins the flow.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:38 GMT
#263
On February 28 2015 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh i wish english was my mother tongue so i could write insulting words just to insult the people i want to.
meh.. well at least i am am a man and get bans for what i say when i am truly angry (and not a pussy) as honestly i have no idea what's ritoky's beef in this game. he should just probably get some sleep.


I have no issues whatsoever, I am primarily joking and being jovial. Perhaps you are upset because you're trying to fit a town shaped peg into a mafia shaped hole.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:41 GMT
#266
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:46 GMT
#270
On February 28 2015 08:43 KelsierSC wrote:
I was town in imperial


ugh, wrong game name. let me find the game name.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:48 GMT
#271
carol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:50 GMT
#273
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:53 GMT
#276
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=KelsierSC

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=KelsierSC

compare them side by side for yourself if you want
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:55 GMT
#279
On February 28 2015 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?


On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2015 23:58 GMT
#285
On February 28 2015 08:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:46 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:43 KelsierSC wrote:
I was town in imperial


ugh, wrong game name. let me find the game name.


A better use of your time is to look at my stuff on prplhz .

Like your case is I'm focused on reading a few people here? No one has done anything where I'm confident giving a read. Except fir rayn and prpl


I read your stuff on prp, and I find it less compelling than rayn's stuff on trf. I like your point about palmar tucked in there though. That doesn't seem like something palmar normally gives a town read for.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 00:01 GMT
#289
On February 28 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?


On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

Like what the fuck is so hard with you?
You gave a meta read which said "here is this game, it's different than this town game but i have no scum game to compare". I asked you to give out a scumgame of his to compare, you called me dickbags.

So fuck you fuckface. What the fuck are you even arguing for you idiot?


You asked badgering and leading questions, made no comment on a refuted accusation, attempted a new accusation, did not read the responses, did not respond to questions on why you disagreed, and then flipped out. So I trolled you, deal with it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 00:09 GMT
#297
On February 28 2015 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 09:01 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

if you do not understand why i didn't read your case's justification further you are an idiot. srsly, you are.
again, why didn't you provide full proof from the beginning?


On February 28 2015 08:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town.


I guess I can respond to this as well.

This is a post limit game what that means is that naturally.people will be more timid with their posting. This is not alignment indicative. Therefore the lack of activity is not surprising. I did comment on the first post of value.i saw, trefls long post. When I saw prplhz post about trefl that was a red flag and I'm asking him questions now to read him.

I think your case is pretty terrible.


When I was mafia with you in imperial, you did a similar thing to what you're doing now. Your style of posting is much different from last game, but the thing that stands out to me most is your scope. In the previous game when you were town you cast a very wide net on day 1 and really were invested in multiple people, determining their alignments, and figuring out the game. In Imperial, you cast a shallow net focusing on 3-4 people as your reads day 1. You have a similar narrow focus this game, and I think the differentiation of play is because you are not town.

Why couldn't you just say this in the first place instead of acting like a massive dick?


Because I gave a read, you openly stated you didn't read it, then I asked you questions and you refused to respond to any of them. So I decided to not respond to you. You were actually the one being the bag of dicks good sir.

Like what the fuck is so hard with you?
You gave a meta read which said "here is this game, it's different than this town game but i have no scum game to compare". I asked you to give out a scumgame of his to compare, you called me dickbags.

So fuck you fuckface. What the fuck are you even arguing for you idiot?


You asked badgering and leading questions, made no comment on a refuted accusation, attempted a new accusation, did not read the responses, did not respond to questions on why you disagreed, and then flipped out. So I trolled you, deal with it.

quote my fucking posts where your post here stands any fucking ground.


Here is your accusation:

On February 28 2015 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky why are you doing this:
1) commenting on something x hours ago
2) commenting on y hours ago (when x is kinda resolved)
3) come in just now and comment on X again?


Here is my response:

On February 28 2015 06:37 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky why are you doing this:
1) commenting on something x hours ago
2) commenting on y hours ago (when x is kinda resolved)
3) come in just now and comment on X again?


last night I read part of the thread on painkillers, I woke up and realized I had no fucking memory of what I read. so I read it again, commented on something I didn't like, who gives a shit if someone else commented on it already?


Here is your response:

oh wait it doesn't exist. instead you move toward forcing your way into me asking a question to robik.

On February 28 2015 06:43 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
He just got married and he's already in pain lawl


lol, ain't dat the truth.

also what do you think of kelsier?

I submit to you this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=KelsierSC

and this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478805-mini-mafia-down-under?user=KelsierSC


On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think?


do I need to display the rest for you? you clearly lack self-awareness and we are both running out of posts.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 06:38 GMT
#401
On February 28 2015 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea where Onegu's push comes from.

KSC and Rayn focused on prp for valid reasons.
I never gave any kind of reason before or after my vote on trefel so when Prp says that he understands where I am coming from, its not accurate at all.

Robik is a dirty liar but the mod confirmation is pretty damming.

I would actually lynch ritoky now, his push on rayn is really bad.



what are you talking about here?

quote this plz.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 06:50 GMT
#404
you're not reading the thread
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 06:55 GMT
#405
On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.

Whatever.

The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.


so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?

how very town of you. /sarcasm
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 07:13 GMT
#407
On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.

Whatever.

The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.


so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?

how very town of you. /sarcasm


I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much?

You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?


what do you think of oats trying to push a lynch on me without even having the right info?

I will respond to the ksc stuff in like 10 mins when I am on a real comp
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 07:27 GMT
#409
On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.

Whatever.

The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.


so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?

how very town of you. /sarcasm


I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much?

You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?


Eh might be a bit longer than I thought to go grab examples. Basically I think his read on prp is a crappy version of the read I gave on LS last game where he referenced a conversation that never happened in the thread. Unfortunately in this case I find it to be a stretch compared to last time when it was very clear cut even though it just turned out to be LS making stuff up. His scope is also very narrow like it is during his scum games thus far. Dunno, am not impressed enough with him to move off of my meta read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 28 2015 21:40 GMT
#552
/confirm
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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