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I mean...
Since the start of the game I felt Artanis was treated by most players as a pro player. This was confirmed by 2 things:
1- Every time he was asked questions about others? he would answer giving some "free" (if he is mafia) reads who no one questioned. But actually only me (a bit of Snarfs, Deamdred and finally Eden) pushed him directly.
2- Snarfs posted a damm long list of his games.
If was in his position and about to be lynched I wouldnt post that "flu" excuse (which I want to believe). This will be recorded in his meta forever. Therefore my question? do you think this is "normal" in him?
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On March 01 2015 07:17 The Shining wrote:
OK, Tronak. The haste with which you switched your vote was just odd to me and the tone with which you just defended yourself seems...well, overly defensive. Did me telling you to read the thread that one time get to you that much? I mean, I did say in my last post that you were sheeping Prob onto FF. But you said you wouldn't move off of Artanis unless he showed he was town. You moved off of him so I needed to see if you thought Artanis was town or not. You moving off the wagon you claim to have started because he hasn't offered us anything to a guy who is here and doing something before EoD doesn't line up. And it might just be wording but "easily" being willing to switch off of your main wagon to another just doesn't fit the tone you've had regarding Artanis.
About my "tone". After 15hours waiting for debate on FF and Artanis and while I was reading Kelser's filter (damm long). I come back i find 3 people asking/pushing me about my swtich.
About why I swtiched so "easy": Prob's case looks good and by switching I wanted to push FF (and looks worked a bit, as he gave a full scan on Tormented). If we lynch Artanis and he flippes to be town. This could be very usefull.
On March 01 2015 07:17 The Shining wrote:
That being said, I really am thinking we should give Artanis a chance here. There are quite a few players who had much more content and posts D1 as opposed to now. Artanis, yamato, Snarfs, Kelsier are names that come to mind as driving forces D1 and almost non existent D2.
And if that is alignment indicative, I'm really bad at this game because there are four names there.
Artanys case is not based only by my arguments (Snarf's put some others on the table you may want to refresh). I would only switch for FF at this moment. Unless a really really good case appears.
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On March 01 2015 07:18 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 06:55 Tronak wrote:
I mean...
Since the start of the game I felt Artanis was treated by most players as a pro player. This was confirmed by 2 things:
1- Every time he was asked questions about others? he would answer giving some "free" (if he is mafia) reads who no one questioned. But actually only me (a bit of Snarfs, Deamdred and finally Eden) pushed him directly.
2- Snarfs posted a damm long list of his games.
If was in his position and about to be lynched I wouldnt post that "flu" excuse (which I want to believe). This will be recorded in his meta forever. Therefore my question? do you think this is "normal" in him? Out of game teaching moment: Really don't think much of it. As far as I'm aware people around here don't make up out of game excuses for either faction. if he feels like ass then maybe he's not gonna care too much about this game either way. Be lenient on people when they have valid reasons and try to judge them based on other characteristics.
Ok, thanks.
On March 01 2015 07:18 Snarfs wrote:
Back in game:
Can you give some examples of the free reads he's been giving? Because that is an alignment indicator and the main reason I think he's mafia and it seems others do as well is because he hasn't been giving out free reads.
He read "town" on me because of what he calls "my genuine paranoia". I never gave importance for his alignment since during D1 I've been seen as the "useless noob" so if he has to give a free read I am a good one to give for free.
I think he has a "few" more, gonna bring them from his filter.
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On February 25 2015 22:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Reading through I'm pretty sure Eden is town. Case on Tormented then backing away from it based on reflection plus his response to Yamato felt really townie.
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On February 26 2015 01:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 01:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Artanis what the.fuck you just caught this fool.
Lynch his.azz No, Damdred is probably town. His explanation makes sense, he just worded one post poorly.
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On February 26 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 07:37 Snarfs wrote:On February 26 2015 07:30 _Tormented_ wrote:
Sigh...that post does seem rather towny. I do agree with your opinion of artanis, but I believe someone posted that he usually does tunnel someone they think is scum. So the fact that he provided very little else to the entire D1 could possibly be explained with that. I just really dislike that I need to go back and read to figure out who he thinks is scum. If he was tunneling I'm pretty sure I'd know off the top of my head. I think it was yamato? Okay, I've made up my mind. You're scum. There's no way you're reading the thread if you don't know who I've been going after all game long.
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Nothing more...
Well I lost the focus.
Back to the point...
##vote Artanis[Xp]
Now... may I have reads on FF? (I asked you a couple of times Snarfs, I asked you too Shining).
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On March 01 2015 07:53 Snarfs wrote:
And what was the general thread feeling towards those people at the time?
About me, Tronak: I was being read townie/scummy/null not a clear trend.
About Damdred: was clearly town for most since Prob's had refused his case already.
About Eden: guess townie for most (not sure).
About Snarfs: you were about to be lynched lol.
Btw I didnt mentioned Tormented/Yamato on purpose they were discussed many times already. So hope you guys know what Artanis posted about them. If not jump in his filter.
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On March 01 2015 08:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Damdred had list of scum
Right people get lynched
Artanis is town
So node is mafia.
On February 27 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
Well right now here sums it up
town:
damdred
yamato
Kel
Eden
snar
prob (rereading)
Tormented
nullish town
Shining
Tron
Scum
Sl
Node
Art
Obviously you think I will be wrong on you so who am I really really reading wrongly on. is all of my scum team incorrect to you?
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Damdred had both Artanis and Node=FF in his list.
So we should be safe if he was right (hope so).
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On March 01 2015 08:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Let me explain to you tronak one more time.
People who are right get lynched.
But damdred is wrong on artanis.
So he was probably right on node.
So node/ff is scum
No need to explain me, I would jump in FFs wagon easyly (dont wait until last minute because I'm damm slow typing english)
Now you have had 48h to actively defend Artanis and you could have come here to push FF as I encouraged you to do. Now dont hurry me, explain your points so we can understand you.
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If Node was being AFK and replaced for that reason he couldnt have shoot Damdred right?
(this just came into my mind, well he could /afk shoot)
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On March 01 2015 08:47 sicklucker wrote:
Artanis isint even voting to save himself I see no reason we should
I thought in that already, he actually voting to save him self. He votes his tunneled Tormented the one possible switch he could expect if we considered Artanis town.
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On March 01 2015 08:55 KelsierSC wrote:
Do what you want
Done with this game.
Hoping you dont.
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The noobs >> you, gg 
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On March 01 2015 09:03 yamato77 wrote:
prob/sl/snarfs
pick 2
At this moment I have to save Snarfs (Artanis' 2nd target) = And I chose 5 KSC/probs/sl/FF/Shining the rest are still somehow in my paranoia, gotta think further though.
1am here, I'll read you tomorrow.
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EDIT: At this moment I have to save Snarfs (Artanis' 2nd target) = And I chose 5 KSC/probs/sl/FF/Shining THESE are still somehow in my paranoia, gotta think further though.
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EPT
