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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:28 GMT
#335
It doesn't say you are an other user if you are logged in. Because I read the QT at work and at home. And ours wasn't infiltrated.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:53 GMT
#346
You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:55 GMT
#348
Just figure this shit out.

VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:56 GMT
#351
On February 20 2015 08:54 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:50 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:45 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie.

This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling.

If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it.

Except that I know that's not true. I literally have done this twice now and it's worked exactly opposite for me

"What we found out is that for every registered visitor that views the forum, a visitor is counted.

This gives us a new statistic that we should consider. The Registered Users statistic. This is (unique visitors) – (unregistered Visitors)."
We had 4 registered users. 0 unregistered. So 4 unique accounts.

Wait. 4 registered users? Ok. That is interesting then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:57 GMT
#353
Nha it is too late. gn all.


Keep calling each other mafia. And pray to jeebus Onegu comes and bleeds something.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:57 GMT
#355
On February 20 2015 08:56 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote:
You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript.

Why the fuck should I put pressure on Oats when I fucking know that the extra unique is quite literally from my phone? Like WTF Koshi?

Ok. I didn't know that. Jeez.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:58 GMT
#356
On February 20 2015 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:55 Koshi wrote:
Just figure this shit out.

VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting.

I did not, I've accessed the QT only on my home PC.

Ok. Then LS must have used 2 devices. Let's see if he did.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 00:01 GMT
#358
I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#364
On February 20 2015 09:04 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 09:01 Koshi wrote:
I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.

Except that this is essentially Kurumi's push that someone has compromised the QT's and is a baddie and needs to be lynched. That this proves mafia in some way. But he's literally doing nothing to prove that of any sort. He didn't even take any further steps to identify the "leaking" member when doing that was like super easy.

I agree on that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#367
Here is something to read. I am now really off to bed. I don't know if I got something out of this conversation. Maybe Eden can say something interesting for a change.

+ Show Spoiler +

[23:32] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #LightningStrike
[23:32] <LightningStrike> What is it Koshi O_o
[23:33] <@Koshi> Nothing much
[23:33] <LightningStrike> I thought we had a different IRC channel for us to use lol
[23:33] <@Koshi> Since your list you haven't been doing much
[23:34] <LightningStrike> I been focusing on the other game I'm playing that hitting EOD in about 5.5 hours
[23:34] <LightningStrike> I mean EoN
[23:34] <@Koshi> Nothing much happening in this one though.
[23:34] <@Koshi> Want to play a game?
[23:34] <LightningStrike> Sure I guess
[23:34] <@Koshi> Coolio
[23:35] <@Koshi> You say a name, then I give my opinion on this person, then you give your opinion on this person. Then I say a name and we do the same
[23:35] <@Koshi> Just what pops in your mind.
[23:35] <LightningStrike> sicklucker
[23:36] <@Koshi> hmm damn. I think both rayn and eden make a good point that he was overly defensive when he said 'here we go again, again I get focussed day 1". Especially because nothing happened yet and only a vote was casted, no reason was yet given.
[23:37] <@Koshi> It shows that SL might have thought that town!rayn found something on him
[23:37] <@Koshi> Which is odd. Because as townie you don't assume that the person voting for you for no reason is town.
[23:38] <@Koshi> The case from rayn is not convincing me yet though. I agree that it is pretty lackluster from SL. But not definite mafia
[23:39] <LightningStrike> I find it hard to read sicklucker on Day 1 after I failed a meta read on him in Linux calling him Town instead of Mafia but you got a good point he been on the backfoot on defending himself
[23:39] <@Koshi> I think that is it.
[23:39] <LightningStrike> He could a power role for all we know
[23:40] <@Koshi> Maybe. But that shouldn't affect his play that much.
[23:40] <@Koshi> My turn: liancourt
[23:41] <LightningStrike> He seems meh in the thread at first I thought he had a ton of motivation this game but you got remember he's in South Korean right now so he's asleep atm.
[23:41] <LightningStrike> Korea
[23:42] <@Koshi> Is that it?
[23:43] <LightningStrike> Basically
[23:43] <@Koshi> It has nothing to do with what he already wrote :/
[23:44] <@Koshi> Haven't you already played a lot with him? I thought that you/LS/Lian came from the game newbies
[23:44] <LightningStrike> Going to recheck since I was to busy on doing something in the other game
[23:45] <LightningStrike> I had played with Lian in Carol, NYE Party, Linux, and I seen him play in Void.
[23:46] <@Koshi> Ok so what is he doing here? His early post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=7#133
[23:46] <@Koshi> Can you say what you think?
[23:48] <LightningStrike> I agree with Lian in that post since he's right that Snickers is outright refusing to use one of the towns biggest weapon in the game that is communcation outside of the thread and the fact that Snickers said to ignore meta is kind of weird tbh with you
[23:50] <LightningStrike> What's your take on it?
[23:52] <@Koshi> I don't know liancourt. That's why I am asking you.
[23:54] <LightningStrike> I see him doing that more as Town than Mafia but than again I had never played with Lian when he was Mafia (shrugs) but it shows he actually thinking about the game but he didn't really follow up much in the thread though
[23:55] <@Koshi> ...
[23:55] <@Koshi> So you never saw him play mafia but you think he wouldn't do it as mafia?
[23:58] <LightningStrike> He tried to get people to talk outside of the thread which is townie in my opinion given this is a outside communcation game and this my first time playing in such a game so I still new on this type of game mode. He also doesn't seem to follow up yet on the thread on Snickers although I make the same mistake as Town on not following up but I remember earlier that he said he was going to bed.
[23:59] <LightningStrike> So currently he's sleeping and he should be here later tonight for me.
[00:00] <@Koshi> hmmk.
[00:01] <@Koshi> Got a clue on who the 3 mafia are?
[00:01] <@Koshi> A guess?
[00:04] <LightningStrike> Okay my guess maybe Snickers, Sicklucker, and VE since you said that VE had given acess to the other QT somehow Sicklucker I had Null and Snickers is my weakest Town read
[00:06] <LightningStrike> What's your guess on the Mafia Team?
[00:21] <@Koshi> I don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#547
hmm I am also making a list. Damn. After reading your list it might suck. I am still going to press enter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 08:53 GMT
#550
Yeah, I am going to call sicklucker town from that list. Fuck me I am deleting my shitty list.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:06 GMT
#556
On February 20 2015 17:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
lmao Koshi that list is so bad are you kidding me? ARe you scum bro?

No it is a pretty good list that sums up a bunch of important things that happened this game. He is paying attention to the game.

I van very easily put myself in his place and see how he came to the conclusion on you. There is nothing mafia about it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:08 GMT
#558
I deleted it. It was terrible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:17 GMT
#560
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.


On February 20 2015 11:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.

I feel that the whole conversation was kurumi saying, "Its like this", and geript saying, "No its not". Thats hardly tunneling.


The reason I dont like Koshi's read on Snickers is that Koshi is doing the exact same thing and complaining about no content and asking people to produce content.

You must have missed the part where geript says "No way you do this as town" then - I thought it was pretty clear that geript thinks Kurumi is mafia for this and is zeroed in on it. Seems tunnely to me because he's ignoring the possibility that you were the source of the leak. (Were you?)

Second part is pretty true, but it doesn't change anything about Snickers himself. I think Koshi's done more than Snickers pretty easily. Koshi dropped some info about LS, he's been questioning Kurumi about his plan for the game, and he brought up Snickers himself. Snickers hasn't done anything beyond calling random things bullshit without offering any analysis or potential suspects or anything.



On February 20 2015 13:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't even post the pms though yet I just waiting for mod to answer my question on it.

don't talk about pm'ing the mods about asking for a rule clarification, dummy

god have mercy on this poor guy (unless he's mafia)

I feel like Town!Eden would have stronger reads than this. I don't think that Town!Eden would start with saying "I could see Koshi being mafia" and then goes for all the green stuff about me. While he also pushes snickers based on everything I said.

I don't see Town!Eden do that.


Same thing with the LS read. I think this shows scum!Eden not knowing when he should have strong reads. This is a PM game ffs. Why is he having such weak reads? He just said LS was town after he read that entire conversation I had with LS. Now he doubts that read again? Is this town!Eden? I don't think so.

##vote: Eden


I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:21 GMT
#564
I am not calling VE town though. Like, I have no problem with him atm, but I am not calling him town based on anything.

He is on the live and let live list.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:22 GMT
#567
On February 20 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there another really bad read in sickluckers post.
Who knows why?

I don't like the geript read. He uses the towncircle to proof geript is town but he hates the towncircle and got somebody as scum who is on it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:25 GMT
#571
On February 20 2015 18:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
The part that he calls me town for attacking townies is pretty bad.

O rly. Which townies does sickluster say you are attacking?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:30 GMT
#580
Hmm I even somewhat misread that geript read. It had to do with LS and a towncircle
Ok. Good stuff by Oats and rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 09:32 GMT
#582
I have no interest in defending ls btw, I already did that one game and he turned out to be scum.

So I am going to say this once: atm I think sl is townish and I would prefer to go after somebody else.

Which I will do. But I will not be vocally opposing the pressure on ls. Probably ever.
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