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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 19:07 GMT
#997
On February 16 2015 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:
I disagree with the meta read because it disagrees with my conclusion


And again, you are telling me jack all about VA besides RNG or even why the meta is wrong.

I'm going to add BH to my lovely list of lynchables.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 19:08 GMT
#999
On February 16 2015 04:05 Blazinghand wrote:
So, just to be clear, nobody here actually thinks Vayne is useful. All you think is that he has a meta of not playing during D1 so he should be allowed to live. Well, there's no argument I can make against that. Follow the RNG for glory, or be left behind in the darkness.


Just saw this.

Where are your reads on others? Or if you live to D2 and beyond are you going to keep RNGing people?

Step it up Blazinghand. Now.

##unvote
##vote Blazinghand

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 19:09 GMT
#1002
I'm out for a few hours, but will be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 19:13 GMT
#1005
On February 16 2015 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok don't lynch me, I'm the jailkeeper


You're claiming 10h before EoD with the wagons still forming?
I'd think you'd know better...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 19:23 GMT
#1014
Not only don't I follow the crumb, but I can't follow why you'd claim with this much time to go. You have plenty of time to read the game and propose an alternate target. You brought up Palmar and Rayn in a post before. Claiming an hour before lynch, sure. But 10 hours?

I can see a new player doing this but you?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 19:24 GMT
#1016
Now I really do have to go. Bah.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 23:58 GMT
#1189
I'm back and caught up.

I have no idea why Ritoky is scumreading me. I discussed BH's lack of contribution and got on with BH for several posts discussing his RNG and potential non-RNG reasons for scumreading VA before voting him. And then when he claimed, I had a problem with BH's claim that far from the deadline, when he could alternatively read the thread or discuss alternate targets. Context please.

Not surprised Eden CCed. Which makes the matter very trivial - if BH IS the real JK, we lynch Eden or should we have a vig, he gets shot tonight. Trivial, folks. I can't see why scum would make themselves an auto-lynch by claiming as Eden did.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 15 2015 23:59 GMT
#1190
My vote stays on Blazinghand. Off to bed I go.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 13:44 GMT
#1633
On February 16 2015 22:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and KSC the time I had played with Robik when he got mad was when he was town so it just meta read on that part. Also rolf at lian being a Miller I guess is it possible to have multiple Millers?


Catching up, though I'm going to be stuck in meetings at work mostly all day. Skimming through, looks like I'm going to be also doing some filter diving as well given how EoD went.

LS apparently in this game there is, like I said before 17-person games could def have more, 13 prob only just one. Of course now that Lian's flipped now I know there's definitely two.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 20:06 GMT
#1726
On February 17 2015 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he wasn't around......


Ugh that could be possible too....It really did bug me as to the timing of BH's claim, and I was much more likely to believe Eden's over BH's. BH keeps saying he claims fairly early but he could do that as scum too.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 20:46 GMT
#1753
I think he meant BH.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:02 GMT
#1757
KSC, I usually find myself asking LS many questions just to see where he is. And in most of his games, he's not very coherent, even as town. Right now I have no reason to be suspicious of him.

Looked at VA's last filter - last two posts on BH/mod issues. Not sure if he's still OMGUS-ing BH, but if he doesn't believe anything was mod confirmed, I'm surprised he didn't have any input on Superbia's researching that possibility or even had any input on balance. We've had a flip but he isn't trying to determine anything from it yet...

There's ritoky still maintaining I was voting BH for no reason when I first voted him, so that remains problematic. Into the scum pile he goes.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:04 GMT
#1758
Eden, Palmar and I were making some of the same points on Rayn earlier when both of us were scumreading Rayn. So I'm fairly confident Palmar's town, if not for the way he broke his case down.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:11 GMT
#1762
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to.

Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:11 GMT
#1763
Well speaking of the devil....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:14 GMT
#1765
Since you're here Ritoky, why were you saying I was voting BH for no reason when I'd a) already discussed my issues with him in one post and b) engaged him prior to voting him? You basically isolated that one post taking it out of context from the rest of my discussion. I voted Rayn, but after pushing BH I switched.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:16 GMT
#1767
No I was talking about you silly
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:30 GMT
#1771
Tried to meta Breshke from his NYE party game and Student IV. He seemed a bit too passive, and I was tempted to ignore him at first, since he had afked a bit this weekend, but once I metaed him I'm pretty sure he's mafia too.

LS, if you have any thoughts on my reads since you were in both those games, just shout.

In SMIV, he was pretty active and changed his votes a few times over the day. Also a bit more verbose than he is in this game or in NYE. In NYE, he had 1-2 scum reads very close to EoD, but didn't have any strong ones through most of the day from what I could tell. Here I am seeing some parallels to NYE, much of the same stuff with his reads. So he is likely scum.

I don't see the same types of (bold/confrontational) reads I saw in SMIV. So scum on him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:36 GMT
#1776
On February 17 2015 06:17 ritoky wrote:
you spent your entirety of your early posts that were meaningful/I can remember being all about that rayn mafia lyfe, then voted on him, then almost on a dime went onto BH for what I felt was a weak reason. made me think you lacked conviction in your rayn read that you had built. makes you suspect, makes you feel like you were looking for an excuse to unvote rayn.


You can have conviction on multiple reads, surprised you didn't see or consider the things I said after I voted BH.
The fact I didn't move my vote from BH prior to going to bed (after the cc, but before the whole dual-JK issue came up) should probably tell you something, and that something shouldn't be a scumlike behaviour.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 16 2015 21:37 GMT
#1777
On February 17 2015 06:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Funny you mention that NYE because he was sheeping a ton in that game. He might be null for now but if there is a SK in this game he could be it idk what else to expect but also check Metal Mini and Student V to compared another Mafia Game and another Town game.


Student V he was town....was he town or scum in Metal? I can't remember.
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