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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:19 GMT
#486
Rasputin, I'm not talking about the RNG scumread. Read the bolded. Try again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:25 GMT
#495
On February 15 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote:
I believe the point was whether or not you were getting anything from your game of 20 questions. So what makes you lean scum on him?


On February 14 2015 14:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:39 Breshke wrote:
HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions?


We're only 40 mins into the game.

I have some preliminary thoughts right now. I was scumreading LS based on his first few posts on Robik, didn't seem like he wanted to commit one way or another, even though I qualified the read to a single post. He answered though based on his meta. Still noncomittal though. Surely he formed a read when Robik afked in Linux. Seems weird he wouldn't. I'm not liking the answers I get from LS so far, so tentative scumread.


I explained the same to Breshke. If he can talk about Robik more, it would help me resolve this issue.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:30 GMT
#501
On February 15 2015 00:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, I'm not talking about the RNG scumread. Read the bolded. Try again.


Lol, wow. Sweetie. Lovely. Dumb one. <3 Why would you think that BH would have legitimate reasons to scumread an RNGd scumread? Or that his illegitimate bastard reasons would make him more scummy than the 30% scummy he objectively is?


Am I missing something? Or completely misreading? I'm sure I'm having a dumb moment, but probably even more frustrating I'm not even sure what you are driving at.

To answer your question, he wouldn't. I said it was unproductive. That method in theory could have just churned out any name. I'm just focusing on the non-RNG reason for scumreading him.

I think we're talking about something completely different.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:31 GMT
#504
Also I've read the thread twice, and I've read BH's filter twice. So at this point I'm clearly not understanding that you all are.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:36 GMT
#516
Robik, I was, and I did. I formed a scumread on LS. It might be wrong, but I did form a basis for it. And right now I'm trying to see if that gets resolved, since it's early yet in D1.

I'm wondering if you're trying to bury me as the easy mislynch.

Honestly at this point if you guys are that desperate to lynch me, then, nothing I can really do. My play in trying to figure things is probably sub-optimal, but I'm also not going to help town by doing nothing either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:38 GMT
#523
On February 15 2015 00:32 rsoultin wrote:
Nope, what we're actually talking about is the ridiculousness of you expecting BH's non-RNG reason to push his RNG scumread to be valid xP


Valid, as in a real reason? I made my interpretation of that early on before BH reappeared.

So let me read past page 17 one more time.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:49 GMT
#541
On February 15 2015 00:32 rsoultin wrote:
Nope, what we're actually talking about is the ridiculousness of you expecting BH's non-RNG reason to push his RNG scumread to be valid xP


Alright, I'm still not getting it, despite reading a third time. Call me stupid/bad/whatever. At this point I'm just going to ask him to clarify straight up, and move on for the time being.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:50 GMT
#542
EBWOP - Ask BH when he pops in, or leave a message if I have to afk for the day.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:07 GMT
#562
On February 15 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are people really this dumb?
geez i guess BH was right.

RAYN: BH ARE YOU FORGING THE READ ON VAYNE BESIDES RNG?
BH: OF COURSE I AM RAYN!


......


And yes, I saw this, but it makes me wonder why he brought it up in the first place.
I was intending to ask him this.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:25 GMT
#570
On February 15 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Half the Sky reads on Kelsier, liancourt and Superbia?
Also that meta i asked on VA.

please.


Sure.

I'm leaning town on Kelsier for now. I have played with Kels as both town and scum. When he is town, he generally focuses on a few people at a time and takes sharper, more critical looks at the quotes. The one scum game I played with him was in Carol, and I recall him adding a lot of people to his town circle almost too easily. He appeared to be making a lot of generalisations on both his town and scumreads (as in not as well supported) when he was scum. His post on VA, even if it's not accurate, reads like his town games.

Liancourt...I have yet to play with him as scum. He's going to be difficult for me to read, because he has his "chosen metas" in the 3-4 games I've had with him. On this game alone, he appears to have sheeped the reasons for calling FF scum. I also don't like his reasons or him mentioning that he's going to policy lynch either of VA or Palmar when he's seen those two play the way they have respectively (not doing anything and in Palmar's case, trolling) and then he's still willing to vote someone that still very likely could roll town.

On February 14 2015 15:59 liancourt wrote:
BH is doing his job of creating content and discussion, although I am fully aware of VA's day1 meta his meta afterwards isn't very shabby either so he's a perfect policy lynch. In my first game with him I lynched VA, second game I gave him a chance, but didnt really meet expectations. Perfect policy lynch. Praise the RNGesus.


I specifically find this quote confusing. The "didn't meet expectations" part indicates VA should be getting read as town based on his meta, so I'm wondering why he's willing to lynch VA when he's already implicitly acknowledged where VA's read should be putting him. So I am also leaning scum on Lian.

(Continuing to Sup, and VA...)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:31 GMT
#572
VA - I played with him in NYE party mafia and Void. I have yet to play with him as scum. The information I got on his scum game was in an obs QT. His town game, he honestly does jack all. I don't know how else to describe it. In NYE, the first game I played with him, I scumread him based on doing nothing and not wanting to solve the game...IIRC, the only posts he made were that he was relying on blue roles, and didn't care for reads, or something. I incorrectly scumread him and pushed his lynch, others called me on it, - and he got lynched. Void - same deal. He did jack all D1 and most of D2. Only after I flipped scum D2, did he start doing work.

In this game, because he seemed to be trying right off the bat I had given him a scumread because it's not what he's ever done as town, not in the few games I've played with him as. I backed off once he said the start time was conducive to his schedule.

For now, I'm reading him null. Ritoky suggested I wait until the votes came in D1. If someone should flip he might start doing more work, like he did in Void when I flipped. This is probably the way I'm going to go about reading VA.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:42 GMT
#580
Rayn, on Superbia, I have never played a game with Superbia, so my reads on him will ignore meta.

Limited filter on him makes it hard to figure if him questioning BH's RNG was a genuine misunderstanding on his part, or if he did roll scum, an attempt to try and scumread BH. I'm going to say null on him for now because I don't know him and I feel I need more to read him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:45 GMT
#582
On VA, just the fact he's made two posts in the first twenty minutes of the game. And specifically this post:

On February 14 2015 14:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see half the sky as a level headed player that wouldnt go for big plays so im adding miller to my town circle will vote with HTS, thats 2 town votes on mafia already


From what I recall he never tried to actually read players or evaluate anyone that soon in the game. That's why it struck me as odd.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:46 GMT
#583
On February 15 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 01:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Rayn, on Superbia, I have never played a game with Superbia, so my reads on him will ignore meta.

Limited filter on him makes it hard to figure if him questioning BH's RNG was a genuine misunderstanding on his part, or if he did roll scum, an attempt to try and scumread BH. I'm going to say null on him for now because I don't know him and I feel I need more to read him.

Is there a reason for him to call me mafia for the reason he is calling me mafia for?


I interpreted those first few posts as him trolling you, and also based on this.

On February 14 2015 18:24 Superbia wrote:
It's fun and there's a decent chance I might be right. :D
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:54 GMT
#587
LS, since you're here, can you please clarify your read on Robik? Or any changes in it?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 16:56 GMT
#588
On February 15 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I getting the same type of feeling on him this as I had in Campus but this time I got more experience and not afraid of him now.
##Vote: Superbia


Is this a gut read or is there a specific post in Superbia's filter that jumped out at you?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 17:00 GMT
#592
On February 15 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Half the Sky i am really puzzled about the fact we have an argument going on and instead of arguing with me you decide to comment on other ppl's posts. And this is not even the first time you have done so.


I answered all your questions on all the people you asked on. You gave me four people and I gave you my reads on them. Including the extra question on Superbia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 17:01 GMT
#593
EBWOP - Including the extra questions on VA and Superbia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 17:05 GMT
#594
On February 15 2015 01:56 LightningStrike wrote:
He might be an angry town since he seemed angry at me and he was angry with me in the last game esp since we wanted to lynch him in Linux but nothing really stood out for him other than his anger towards.


Alright, this makes sense on where you're coming from, and I can see why we're seeing different on Superbia. Townlean for now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 17:06 GMT
#595
On February 15 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Half the Sky i am really puzzled about the fact we have an argument going on and instead of arguing with me you decide to comment on other ppl's posts. And this is not even the first time you have done so.


On the other hand you are scumreading Kelsier. I gave you my reasons for townreading him based on experience. What don't you like about him?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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