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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:11 GMT
#244
Also Breshke, regarding the CC, I'm no balance queen (yet) but how do you know there cannot be a second miller?

17-player game might be possible. 13-man based on Horn, unlikely.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:17 GMT
#252
On February 14 2015 14:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Members of the scumteam!

[image loading]


On February 14 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:
@slam

[...]
fecalfeast:
[image loading]


Ritoky, you're scumreading FF? Why?

He doesn't seem to do much D1 as town from what I recall, but what is jumping out at you here?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:17 GMT
#253
Or rather, are you? Am I misinterpreting your post?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:20 GMT
#258
On February 14 2015 15:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I love how serious you are all the time lol


Heh. I can't tell sarcasm too easily unless I've played with you often, and in your case, I clearly haven't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:34 GMT
#264
On February 14 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote:
There could be I just think it would be ballsy for a mafia to claim miller this early because if like 2+ other millers out that sticks you in the limelight because it isnt really standard.


How so? Clarify the bolded please? Sticks me in the light, meaning that it makes me look scum? Or my claiming isn't really standard?

Based on what marvellosity said in Horn (and he was town), you typically want to claim it as soon as you can. Which I did as I was here at game start. Later claims of it by any player are more suspicious (though I realise right now a number haven't entered thread yet). And this is the first time I've RNGed that role, so I am going off that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:43 GMT
#269
On February 14 2015 15:37 Breshke wrote:
So therefore i don't think you claim miller that early because it could easily put you up for suspicion especially D1 when there isn't that much to go on. Obviously this isn't something you would want to do as mafia.


Now I understand you. Cheers.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:47 GMT
#272
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough


So Blazinghand, D1 meta for Vayne is that he does jack all. We're less than 2h into the game. Further, you're objectively scumreading him for doing jack all, when it's his known meta?

I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:48 GMT
#276
EBWOP - I am also considering Ritoky's advice to wait until first vote results to try and read him more solidly.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:49 GMT
#278
EBWOP again - last post was directed at BH.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:54 GMT
#293
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


BH, come on. Yes that was a reason, no I am not denying he got RNGed. But you stated another reason to objectively scumread him. My criticism is of the bolded:

On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough


I am disputing your OTHER objective reason for scumreading him.

On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
So Blazinghand, D1 meta for Vayne is that he does jack all. We're less than 2h into the game. Further, you're objectively scumreading him for doing jack all, when it's his known meta?

I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:55 GMT
#296
On February 14 2015 15:53 liancourt wrote:
welp no voting thread gg

my body is ready for 200p game, but my eyes are probably not


Read OP - Breshke called me on it as well as I missed it. Vote in here.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:56 GMT
#300
Sidenote: For shits and giggles, whenever I do vote, I am tempted to vote using MSPaint since that's how it was done in previous Titantic games

(Although will vote in the preferred/accepted format...)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 07:03 GMT
#309
On February 14 2015 15:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Lynch all liars

##vote ritoky


LAL tends to lynch town, and is generally more of a threat than actual policy, at least from what I have learnt.

Why aren't you commenting on his first assertion, which would appear more substantial.
I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to remember every game he's played in with you.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 07:08 GMT
#312
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 07:12 GMT
#316
On February 14 2015 16:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Am I to keep notes on when and why I make posts before, during and after I make them? I'll have to find a pen....


That is besides the point.

You don't seem very comfortable. Ritoky was the first to make such an observation. I agreed upon seeing your latest response to me.

But even prior to my observation, the easiest way to refute that would have been to change your behaviour.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 07:13 GMT
#318
On February 14 2015 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote: half the sky


Well good morning Rayn. Nice of you to greet me with a vote. Care to add an explanation to that?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 07:18 GMT
#329
On February 14 2015 16:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't care what you and ritoky think of my posting, though. I'm not sure how you can gauge my level of comfort through text anyway... You also don't seem very comfortable. You seem like you are trying so hard to act like you're trying to solve a game that's been going on for less than 3 hours...


Not any different from how I normally play as town. I say what is on my mind. If you don't agree with it, then counterargue.

Level of comfort? You just said you were annoyed at how serious I sounded. That indicates you're not comfortable with me, at least. You've played with me before. You should be somewhat familiar with my town play.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 07:20 GMT
#334
Alright, off to my training run. 28km of awesomeness. I'll be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:12 GMT
#474
I'm back. Rasputin, in either case, I thought that was what you were supposed to do if you rolled miller. If not, then well, what's done is done, and you, Rayn, whoever else can call my play bad for all I care.

Also I don't like Robik's post about me because he's not reading and understanding why I'm asking the questions I am, also ironic coming from a player that has said in the townplay discussion thread that he thrives on conversation. Funny that he'll scumread someone else for trying to do the same thing.

As I maintained in Horn of Africa, LS is someone I find it very difficult to read, so he is the type of player I will ask 20-odd questions in trying to figure out his alignment. (Right now, I'm leaning scum on him) If you think you have a better way, suggest it. Ritoky made the assertion that Fecalfeast wasn't comfortable. His behaviour didn't change when I started talking to him, I was looking for that change.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#481
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?
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