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On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...  On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious?
Im dumb i should really read nested quotes.
So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke.
@Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone?
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On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...
+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] +On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.
Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.
Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?
I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.
But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)
These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..
Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?
1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."
What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first? It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet. (1) Do you have an issue with this point? (2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise. (3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead? I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.
from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? Im dumb i should really read nested quotes. So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke. @Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone? Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders. Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.) That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^
oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything
I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything
On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/
Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative.
Your reads would be nice thanks
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On February 15 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 08:05 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
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Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?
You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.
super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
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You think HtS is scum? No i don't i am obviously just talking shit.... What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? Im dumb i should really read nested quotes. So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke. @Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone? Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders. Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.) That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^ oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/ Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative. Your reads would be nice thanks Coming in to tell someone where to post and joke about them being modkilled is blah, which translates to at best null. It's just an entrance post, of course...but that you've managed to develop no clear scumreads since start of day has me leaning scum on you. Note the context of the post: I was contesting Rayn's townread on you.
I'm not going to force a scum read when i don't have any. You have played with me before i don't see how you think its weird i didn't have any clear scum reads.
Yes you were contesting rayn's read but you brought it up so either you were just doing that to post words or you thought there was something alignment indicative about it. Yet you came to the conclusion of blah which you say means null so why did you feel it was necessary to bring up?
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On February 15 2015 10:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2015 10:14 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 08:09 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 08:05 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:On February 15 2015 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
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So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:
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You think HtS is scum? and then On February 14 2015 18:55 Superbia wrote:
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What? It was all a joke or some shit? if he was joking around ? I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies On February 14 2015 18:49 Superbia wrote:On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. You think HtS is scum? They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? Im dumb i should really read nested quotes. So superbias scum read on rayn was because he was scum reading HtS. Okay maybe it wasn't a joke. @Rsoul do you have any reads or are you just going to throw scum on everyone? Lol, of course I have reads xP Even some townreads. Actually reading people's posts does wonders. Do you have any scumreads, or are you just going to be defending everyone all day? (HtS, Eden, LS, Superbia, half-and-half me, etc. etc.) That bolded phrase is probably the most common sentiment used to scumread me in all my town games, btw ^^ oooooo that dig hahaha. I read peoples posts I just dont click the button to read everything I struggle to get scumreads D1 town reads are much easier. I think that FF's stuff on superbia is actually really good now. I also think you are fairly scummy because you are posting but you arnt saying anything On February 15 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this. town I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/ Take this for example. Is blah town or scummy, why is trying to clarify where people vote alignment indicative. Your reads would be nice thanks Coming in to tell someone where to post and joke about them being modkilled is blah, which translates to at best null. It's just an entrance post, of course...but that you've managed to develop no clear scumreads since start of day has me leaning scum on you. Note the context of the post: I was contesting Rayn's townread on you. I'm not going to force a scum read when i don't have any. You have played with me before i don't see how you think its weird i didn't have any clear scum reads. Yes you were contesting rayn's read but you brought it up so either you were just doing that to post words or you thought there was something alignment indicative about it. Yet you came to the conclusion of blah which you say means null so why did you feel it was necessary to bring up? Null at best. Learn to read xP So are you saying you still have no scumreads?
How bout you stop dodging the question and actually give your reads.
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Also superbia are you still around?
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On February 15 2015 10:34 Superbia wrote:
I'm around now for a little bit. What's up breshke?
Why did you not expand on your rayn read straight away instead of just dropping it in the thread and leaving. Did it not feel important to you?
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I actually really like puppys case and the follow up
##Vote KSC
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So im fairly sure superbia is scum here aswell
He opens up with a scumread on Rayn with no explanation. This is his response when asked why he didn't talk more about his rayn read
On February 15 2015 10:43 Superbia wrote:
I don't really like elaborating on reads until necessary.
Which is total bullshit as maybe one other player at the time was scum reading rayn so why would town superbia not try and convince the rest of town that rayn was scum. This is infact a great way to get town read because ive seen vets give newer players townpasses for going after big targets like rayn would be this game.
The only thing that gives me pause is that he then goes on to try and find a flaw in BH's RNG which is really awkward to me. Like he has a scumread but instead drops it to focus on the semantics of scum bh's RNG.
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On February 16 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 06:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
what is this BH omgus vote thing by ritoky? I already explained how he was playing very similar to when he played as Old Partner in golden sun, i was on his mafia team in that game. you did? I wasn't aware you had posted more than 4 times in the entire thread.
What's the point of this post
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On February 16 2015 06:44 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 06:39 Breshke wrote:On February 16 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:On February 16 2015 06:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
what is this BH omgus vote thing by ritoky? I already explained how he was playing very similar to when he played as Old Partner in golden sun, i was on his mafia team in that game. you did? I wasn't aware you had posted more than 4 times in the entire thread. What's the point of this post if you have to ask then you've missed the point
No i get that you are trying to put down VA when he told you you were wrong about something. I don't understand why.
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Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there
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if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded.
On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there cause he doesn't like rolling mafia
Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it.
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BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game?
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On February 16 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game? I don't RNG as scum. Actually, more accurately, I haven't RNGed as scum. I suppose if I were scum and in the right mood I might. But RNG makes people want to lynch me and it's hard to dodge the noose as scum since you're lying about it, see?
hmmm
My problem now is that if you don't RNG as scum arn't your town and mafia games too easily distinguishable from each other. Wouldn't the fact that you don't RNG make you look scummier hence you would be forced into doing it as scum. I don't know what i expect you to reply to that but any reads you might have other than VA i would like to hear.
On February 16 2015 07:45 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:37 Breshke wrote:if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded. On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there cause he doesn't like rolling mafia Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it. I think he enjoys town way more. It's my perception that he doesn't enjoy mafia. If you want an example of his lack of enjoyment of the mafia role, look no further than the linux game
I agree that he likes town more but there wasn't exactly suspicion on him today so why CC BH when it signs his death sentence tomorrow if he is scum. Yes if he doesnt enjoy scum he gets to kill BH and get out of the game but he could have just let BH's claim go by keep doing whatever he was doing and just kill BH in the night.
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On February 16 2015 07:55 liancourt wrote:
so what made BH claim in the first place?
Some people say pressure, BH says he always claims when he is blue
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On February 16 2015 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 07:54 Breshke wrote:On February 16 2015 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game? I don't RNG as scum. Actually, more accurately, I haven't RNGed as scum. I suppose if I were scum and in the right mood I might. But RNG makes people want to lynch me and it's hard to dodge the noose as scum since you're lying about it, see? hmmm My problem now is that if you don't RNG as scum arn't your town and mafia games too easily distinguishable from each other. Wouldn't the fact that you don't RNG make you look scummier hence you would be forced into doing it as scum. I don't know what i expect you to reply to that but any reads you might have other than VA i would like to hear. On February 16 2015 07:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 16 2015 07:37 Breshke wrote:if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded. On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there cause he doesn't like rolling mafia Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it. I think he enjoys town way more. It's my perception that he doesn't enjoy mafia. If you want an example of his lack of enjoyment of the mafia role, look no further than the linux game I agree that he likes town more but there wasn't exactly suspicion on him today so why CC BH when it signs his death sentence tomorrow if he is scum. Yes if he doesnt enjoy scum he gets to kill BH and get out of the game but he could have just let BH's claim go by keep doing whatever he was doing and just kill BH in the night. You are scum. You don't like being scum. You see someone claim (basically) medic. You come in, claim medic. Get him lynched, trade yourself 1 for 1 and then mafia can kill whoever the fuck they want moving forward. It's not a grade trade, but it's not terrible. Especially considering the fact that there are way too many mafia/sk already and town basically has no chance of winning
Yeah i get this but it still seems like such a shit play. Looking at it yeah if scum or sk dont kill each other town is fucked so once again why would eden just throw himself away like that. The only thing that would make sense to me is that if one of edens partners was getting pressured but at the time votes seemed to be swinging my way so that cant even be it.
What im saying is that edens claim makes sense to me whereas BH's doesn't. I don't think eden hates scum enough to make such a shit play.
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On February 16 2015 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, this is why I don't trust anyone's meta reads. Here's a lesson for you new kids about meta: you need to look at the counterexample. For example, say we say "Blazinghand is always spammy as scum". Well, guess what, that's true, but I'm also spammy as town. Or, "Blazinghand makes claims as scum" well, sure, I've fakeclaimed as scum, but that doesn't mean that every time I claim I'm scum. In fact, 90% of the time that I claim, I'm town.
ALSO, look at it this way. This is a 17player setup with 5 scum-- town obviously has a good number of PRs. Town has only 4 types of PR, and JK is like the only active saver, so town DEFINITELY has a JK. If I'm scum, why would I claim JK? If I'm scum, I KNOW there's a JK somewhere out there, and I KNOW I'm gonna get CCed. I was under some pressure, sure, but if I were really scum I'd wait until later with the claim when tehre wasn't time for a CC. Jesus christ people, think about it for a moment. Just because I claimed first doesn't make me scum; as scum I'd be anticipating a CC.
The second paragraph is really convincing. The only reason i can give is to bait out the JK but that has the same problem as eden's claim in that I don't think mafia go for a 1 for 1 trade there and obviously there's your point that you would do it later so there wasn't as much time.
I've got to afk for 2 hours be back then
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TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
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On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
Because (1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it. (2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role?
This is all setup stuff. What do you think about BH's alignment outside of his claim?
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