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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 05:32 GMT
#3883
On February 17 2015 08:58 Palmar wrote:
Okay, I wanted to be less lazy and do some more tonight, but this is what you get. I mostly want this posted because i'll be super mad at myself if I don't post this and then get shot.

rayn I don't know now. Basically yesterday when I wrote the case on him, part of the case was also to gauge his reaction to it. I sort of thought to myself "if he responds with straight up omgus, he's mafia" and "if he actually recognizes that what I'm saying is true and valid, and just argues why it doesn't apply, he might not be mafia". The fact that he just left the thread made me more sure he's mafia, and he came back today and just pulled an OMGUS. Then he went and posted _exactly_ what I would have expected him to post as town.

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On the other hand i have no idea why Kelsier decided to step up on me. Like everything you say in your case is "correct" except that it's not because it's ME we are talking about here. Kelsier definitely doesn't know me good enough to know because apparently you don't either.

On top of that you should probably read his filter. It's really bad.


See the bolded. Now I'm not sure. Maybe he's town? If he keeps lynching townies and keeps not having any influence on the lynch, kill him, but I don't think we lynch him tomorrow.

ritoky is mafia. Lynch with fire. Besides being completely uninvested and most of his very short filter being chupazi jokes with slam, he actually did suspect rsoultin at some point for what seemed to be reasons he actually believed, then later he posted both a list post with various players that didn't even include rsoultin and a mafia team that didn't either. It's like he forgot she exists which is strange as he in theory already had a read on her. I know all this because it took me well into the night to realize he was even playing so I read his filter. That's how boring his posts were.

Town Puppy and Blazinghand are probably town. Someone pointed out that it fits the flavor for there to be two people and there is literally no reason for mafia to fakeclaim that on day 1 (if one of them is 4real mafia just shuts the fuck up and shoots the other in the night). I haven't really read their posts though.

IAmRobik probably town, I've gotten more confident reading him lately and somehow his posts in the last few games have been less awful than before. I liked how he acted regarding the HTS claim and I really like his read on me and calling me top town (pro-tip mafia, just call me top town for free townreads).

rsoultin is probably town too. I think her interaction with BH early regarding the RNG lynch was pretty much okay. Also despite getting the idea behind my case on rayn completely wrong, I still think she showed an actual interest in it. Her general vibe is also just sort of bubbly/happy which makes her less likely to be mafia.

LightningStrike is a wizard.

KelsierSC could be mafia. Looks especially worse if rayn turns out to be actually town because that defense was basically unnecessary. And I guess the main thing isn't really the defense, it's the fact that he could easily not have argued with me about the rayn thing and instead really tried to push his own thing. He seemed fine with getting caught up in that despite having just posted his own case.

Alakaslam: who knows

I thought prplhz was town yesterday. He made the point about me not reading OPs but didn't seem to really jump to conclusions over it. Howerver I sorta feel like he's disappeared and not been much of a factor in the game since then but still. I actually used to pride myself on being basically a prplhz whisperer because I'd always know his alignment. So maybe I'm just shit.

Superbia is a hard read atm. I kinda liked his initial vote on rayn because it basically was a bit of a "I don't care" move, and he definitely doesn't have that kinda flash as mafia from what I have seen. Soooo town maybe slightly?

Fecalfeast gave me the attention I crave so much. very slight townread.

Half the Sky
Breshke
VayneAuthority

No idea, can't remember anything they've posted. (especially for HTS that might be scummy, because I always tend to figure her out as town quite early, I even wrote about how it's a pretty unique skill of hers).


He doesn't read LS or Slam and calls Ritoky mafia. He goes back and forth on prplhz...

If LS is indeed scum, I think I'm going to take a vacation from TL Mafia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 05:32 GMT
#3884
No....can't be.... *takes off tinfoil hat*
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 05:46 GMT
#3890
#yolo prediction right here....upon reading Palmar's filter:

LS and Slam might actually be the last two scum.....and I'm doing this by PoE.

Ritoky is probably serial killer.

You heard it here first.

Good night/morning and well done again <3

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 17:57 GMT
#3907
On February 23 2015 00:59 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm awake. I want everyone's input on my case on prplhz now.


Well Superbia, I think he sounds a bit frantic for post-lynch.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 18:12 GMT
#3910
On February 23 2015 03:04 rsoultin wrote:
Okay? So what does that mean to you?


Hang tight....getting a bunch of quotes together to prove my point....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 18:19 GMT
#3913
On February 22 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow so my meta read on him was off. Fuck. But still seriously lets lynch prplhz tomorrow guys.


On February 22 2015 14:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Also it's funny that Palmar was hard townreading me...........


On February 22 2015 14:20 LightningStrike wrote:
HTS and rsoultin can I have your swords tomorrow on lynching prplhz?


On February 22 2015 14:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 14:32 Half the Sky wrote:
He doesn't read LS or Slam and calls Ritoky mafia. He goes back and forth on prplhz...

If LS is indeed scum, I think I'm going to take a vacation from TL Mafia.

I'm not Mafia and he said reasons why I'm town throughout his filter


Palmar was hard defending LS pretty much the entire game. Notice how he sheeped scum reads on Rayn and FF when we (Damdred/myself) presented our cases on them. One of Palmar's skills as noted in (I think????) Linux is knowing when to sheep a good case. Or as mafia here, what he perceived as a good case. I think his strategy this game (he has claimed in Hammertime as town that he doesn't have a meta) was riding people's wrong reads on others.

In the same vein, look at how you and I Rasputin were defending LS based on meta, others who didn't know him too well were scumreading him. Palmar....did he play with LS that often to be making the same judgment that WE were? I don't think so.

He was sheeping/copying/however you want to put it OUR reads on LS.

Additionally, let's go back to LS and my thoughts on him. I don't like his reaction to the lynch at ALL. He's more concerned about his scumread being right. Self-consciousness. Probably the most marked I've seen all game, I will admit.

Everyone was thrilled to see a mafia go....except him. Look at all his quotes post-lynch. (I've quoted most above.) Not just the one I posted in response to Superbia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 18:20 GMT
#3915
EBWOP - Like it's one thing for him to be scared about being lynched, as either alignment. But his entire post-lynch reaction...I would have expected him to be more in vein with everyone else.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 18:22 GMT
#3916
Between Palmar's reads on him and his reaction? He's most likely one of the scummers we've been overlooking.

The fact that he's targetting "easy" lynches in prphlz doesn't help, especially with Palmar leaving his vote on prplhz. I don't know the vote count at the time Palmar voted, but it's really not looking good for him at all.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 18:24 GMT
#3918
Also I can't remember if LS made his case BEFORE or AFTER Palmar voted prplhz. Knowing the vote count at that time would further soldify my feeling on this. If it was after, he needs to be lynched tomorrow unless town collectively agree to be SK hunting.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 18:29 GMT
#3924
On February 23 2015 03:26 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, I don't know that I'd call prplhz an "easy" lynch right now, HtS, but I see your point.


No, not now. I am referring to the time (D3) we were all mostly taking a look at lynching him. Even when I was tracking scumreads early D3, nearly everyone had him on their lists. That's what I meant.

Now? I don't think prplhz is the lynch tomorrow. It's possible Palmar could have bussed him, but unlikely as SK was still alive. And a lot of people, like I said, had him on their lists.

Sorry I wasn't clear there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:09 GMT
#3961
LOOOOOOLLLLLLLL Rasputin.

Much improved scum game m'lady.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:11 GMT
#3962
On February 23 2015 14:02 Blazinghand wrote:
well time to lynch LS. That RS flip pretty much seals it


100%

##vote LightningStrike

Contrived my arse Rasputin. I was convinced a town Rasputin should know how to read me.

Except you weren't town. LOL.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:12 GMT
#3964
Shit, I still don't fully understand how the janitor works. First game I've every played with a janitor.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:14 GMT
#3967
The only way we don't vote down LS is if we agree to lynch the SK, whom I'm pretty sure is Ritoky.

As long as we can come to an agreement, I think we'll be fine. We can finish the job either way since a positive lynch will take the enemy down to 1kp.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:15 GMT
#3969
On February 23 2015 14:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
this isnt the real janitor role. Janitor in mafia is some one that makes a kill at night and covers up what they were so its a no flip. Provides mafia with info the town doesnt have so they can fake claim a power role if thats what they janitored. This is just a made up role with an overloaded kit.


Good lord, I have a lot to learn about this game. Cheers for the info.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:22 GMT
#3971
Lynch LS please.....Palmar and Rasputin hard defending him, both scumreading/willing to vote down prplhz....this is a no-brainer.

Good night/morning, and cheers to the SK, you just made this game much easier for us.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:27 GMT
#3972
Congrats Ritoky on the big day! Just saw your post.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 05:55 GMT
#3979
On February 23 2015 14:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I now just going to get lynched and town loses. Grats on the lost town. May you guys feel my wrath from the grave


LOL? You realise town has the upper hand? And now that Rasputin's flipped, I'm pretty sure she was coaching you this whole time...zing.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 13:57 GMT
#3987
Slam,

2. Half the Sky
3. ritoky
4. VayneAuthority
9. LightningStrike
12. Alakaslam
13. prplhz
14. Blazinghand
17. Fecalfeast

8 remaining. 6 town, 1 scummer, 1 SK.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 23 2015 14:33 GMT
#3989
On February 23 2015 16:28 Alakaslam wrote:
I am inclined to lynch Prplhz today actually.

Really, I am. Perhaps that is strange?

Someone disagree? Could you make yourself clear, if so? Unilateral action is fine, no need to discuss with folks.. Maybe.

sson I sez we lynches the prp but if CHUPAZI too stoop we can lynch LS


Slam, there are two issues with taking out prplhz. I'll let VA explain #1, but #2 is from the POV of the flipped scum.

1 VA explains that prphlz voting Breshke when he did (or when a wagon could have formed on him or whatever) vindicates him. (I think...if I botched this, correc me.)

2 Look at what Palmar and Rasputin tried to do towards end of day 3. Palmar near-afked on prplhz, thinking most people were going to just settle for him (given how I was tracking votes), and Rasputin did the same. Both were trying (esp Ras) to steer us away from LS too.

I was giving LS a pass until I saw his EoD reaction and then worked it PoE, something was wrong, because EoD/Palmar's flip allowed me to eliminate prplhz.

The vote was either 6-4 or 5-5 when we shennanied onto Palmar.

Rasputin was GF and Palmar was goon, which explains why she was willing to shennanie onto Palmar instead of risking getting LS killed with the vote 5-5, he had some janitor power left or whatever. I don't think at the time she anticipated getting shot at EoD.

And then it happened. It was also highly unlikely she was getting lynched either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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