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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 21:41 GMT
#3400
On February 21 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 06:35 ritoky wrote:
On February 21 2015 06:33 Superbia wrote:
I think wagons on both prplhz and slam is good start to this day.

##Vote: prplhz


1) what is wrong with the LS vote?

2) why the hell would you ever vote on some1 who is en route to be modkilled?


I don't think LS is scum.

What's the status on prplhz? Is he set to be modkilled, replaced or warned?


We are past night 2, so I don't think he will be replaced per the OP.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 21:42 GMT
#3402
On February 21 2015 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay let's lynch Slam he seems like his mafia meta from Slytherin this game. He doesn't seem to scum hunt or do his own pushes and wouldn't push any of his reads this game. He's Mafia this game and here's his filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Alakaslam
##Vote: Alakaslam


LS, you were town in Horn. I believe one of the points for improvement in your town game that was mentioned to you post game is not to throw links at people if you want to make a case. Go into that filter and draw out the quotes that parallel the points you are trying to make against Slam.

If you are town, I think you can do this. <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 01:43 GMT
#3601
Back and catching up.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 02:35 GMT
#3628
On February 22 2015 11:25 rsoultin wrote:
Oh, btw, there's an interesting gem I noticed in reading LS' filter where ritoky mentioned that he "can" tunnel as either alignment.

Which put me in mind of reading the scum QT after Carol where ritoky justified tunnel bussing HF by saying that he always tunnels as town.

Something that makes me think that ritoky may be our third party if this is a departure from both his town and scum games.


Well VA said something earlier that might indicate this too.

On February 20 2015 00:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
LS, Ritoky, prphlz, and 4th was breshke until he got replaced, I dont deal with replacements so dont care about that slot anymore.

I think robik is potentially the SK at this point, or damdred. I see now that Robik is playing his town game but isn't actually invested in it, why he hasn't went after the LS lynch more is beyond me. SK is basically an extension of town right now as he has to shoot mafia so no reason to lynch.


This was before Robik died obviously.

On February 21 2015 09:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I know who the SK is now, interesting. Don't really want to reveal it as he's towns strongest player atm.


On February 21 2015 09:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 09:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh hey that means you don't think I'm the SK! VA what do you think of ritoky?


Any particular reason that I would need to go into detail?

Ritoky and LS are not the same alignment, we would lynch 1 scum if we lynched both that should suffice


I know VA was scumreading LS before though, and ritoky was posting a lot of cases as well on LS and trying to convince me and others that LS was scum.

I thought it was Ritoky earlier given the way he was reading Rayn, FF and myself, but I was obviously wrong on Rayn, and after examining Damdred's filter, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong on FF being scum. Although I'm curious to see why you think he's SK.

Also if you're that interested in finding SK, Rasputin, I wonder if there's any way to work backwards on any information or reads people might have had on either of Damdred or Kelsier.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 02:42 GMT
#3634
Of the people townreading Kelsier D1....off the cuff, I might honestly have been the only one TRing Kelsier and I did that based on meta. But I think there might have been one other person. I need to check into that as well.

Also the "stats" on replacements - there were two comments on that I think Robik was one of them....hold on.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 02:44 GMT
#3636
On February 22 2015 11:39 rsoultin wrote:
Someone gave stats on replacements. I forget who. The way I figure it, SK could either have been reading KSC town, null, or scum to throw people off before taking a shot at him if in fact the SK did shoot KSC and not someone else. But SK definitely shot Damdred, and the SK would reasonably be interested in getting scum lynched Day 2 to balance out the sides. I'm not sure that it was ritoky who said it, but it does fit his stats interest.


It was Robik, I was correct.

On February 19 2015 06:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 06:07 Palmar wrote:
I hate the fact both rayn and robik scumread damdred. Like it's literally almost impossible to jump into a 100 page game as a replacement or whatever and read back, form reads and be assertive, yet he actually did that.

I caught damdred in imperial, and this is not mafia damdred.

let's play a game called statistics. 274 people subbed out of games from 2014-2015. 243 of them were mafia.


On February 19 2015 07:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 07:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Robik is that stat about replacements being mafia real?

I made it up, but the % of time a sub is mafia is probably something like 85% to 15% town


But Robik is dead, although I think a few initially suspected him of being SK based on how he ramped it up N2.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 02:51 GMT
#3647
On February 22 2015 11:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also the "stats" on replacements - there were two comments on that I think Robik was one of them....hold on.

I asked for verification and i think bh or palmar said if it was true they liked it[/QUOTE]

Well I know you are also suspecting Palmar of being scum, but are you also suggesting as well one of the above could be SK?

As for tonight's lynch, I'm still not convinced on LS. I'm in the same boat as Rasputin, of the 8 games I've played, 6 of them have been with LS. And I'm seeing a lot of the incoherence I've been seeing in the 5 games he's been town.

I know his read on Slam was questioned, but if I recall right, I'm pretty sure he PoE-ed his scumreads when he first called out his scumteam. So it's not like his read on Slam came out of nowhere.

On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me which 4 Mafia and 1 SK is 5 players and I got 5 and Robik might have been a wrong meta read which I taking into account for this and the fact he been tunneling the shit out of me and Slam is mostly unreadable for me this game and the last I couldn’t read him he was Mafia in Slytherin so I think he might be Mafia this game on meta for me. Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. Prplhz he might be a vet as far I’m concerned and if he is one he looks really bad like Gobble bad meaning he could be mafia with very poor play and he doesn’t look very townie this game. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 02:53 GMT
#3651
EBWOP - FF, quote boxes effed up, my question was based on the sentence below that quote, which was actually said by you.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 02:58 GMT
#3658
On February 22 2015 11:52 Superbia wrote:
Would SK!Palmar flip-flop his reads on Damdred to leave no trail for his shot?


Here's a few quotes for thought.

On February 18 2015 06:59 Palmar wrote:
I don't like people like ff and damdred going after rsou. I think she is pretty clearly town.


On February 18 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
You need to step shit up Damdred. Breshke was not noteworthy and you haven't been either. Why do you scumread a townread of mine, yet think I'm town?


I believe was the below after he cased Rayn.

On February 18 2015 23:58 Palmar wrote:
I actually feel a lot better about damdred now.


On February 19 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote:
Like I have no problem with rayn calling prplhz mafia, if he wanted to go for someone on his wagon. Like even if rayn flips town I'm never going to lynch damdred because of this push.


You think the bolded is a way of him hiding what he thinks of Damdred?

On February 19 2015 23:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 23:45 Half the Sky wrote:
Does PoE here make sense? The five most anti-town players could be scum if everyone else is bleeding town? Are there more than 5 anti-town players? I'm not sure I'd put slam in that category.

Palmar, what is jumping out at you re: VA despite the meta read?

No I probably gave some random mafia townread. Maybe it's Damdred? you? rsoultin? superbia? LS? robik?

Doesn't matter. I'm not lynching into my nulls/towns until I've exhausted my shit tier list.


Palmar as SK might be possible on these quotes. Not sure if he had any commentary on Kelsier though.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 03:06 GMT
#3673
VA, I already explained I don't like the LS wagon, and I explained why.

I'm even trying to see any of the shit he said from a perspective where he could be coached by scumbuddies if he is scum. But the voice I'm reading is a voice that seems quite independent and even if not so coherent.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 03:15 GMT
#3678
##vote prplhz

Only scumread that appears to be a wagon atm.

I'm going to re-read Ritoky's filter again and try and see if I can ferret out an SK from his posts.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 03:15 GMT
#3679
Can we get an updated vote count? I think a few already called it on being wrong. Really would appreciate it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:03 GMT
#3705
On February 22 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote:
HtS; talk to me. You're the only other one who thinks LS is town.


I'll be honest, my head is spinning right now with the whole SK thing. First Ritoky. Then this. I'm trying my best to reason this out. Especially if you are trying that hard to SK hunt. When I cleared FF in my analysis of Damdred's filter I never took into consideration that FF is SK. But the way scum were going about it, he was clearly not scum.

Do FF's scumreads make sense?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:05 GMT
#3706
Fuck. Let me check. I mean you have your evidence for presenting him as SK, and he is showing the same symptoms as Robik as others suspected him as SK.

Is that 18 page filter half quality/half shit tier? The only town game I recall is Carol and he didn't seem to care in that one.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:06 GMT
#3708
On February 22 2015 13:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
prplhz leads LigntningStrike 5-4


Cheers.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:10 GMT
#3715
On February 22 2015 13:09 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 13:07 Superbia wrote:
Who are you scum reading?

FF palmar rito rso

yes i know there's one too many


There's an SK at large. Of the above, do you have a prediction/thought on an SK?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:13 GMT
#3724
On February 22 2015 13:10 prplhz wrote:
rito and rso are kind of the same, both post a lot without saying anything.


Seriously? They probably have the most amount of substance to their posts, although I've thought Ritoky's posts was quite misleading personally, but the point is, both have been pretty clear on their conclusions, thought processes, etc.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:41 GMT
#3762
Other than you there are 3 other people scumreading Palmar. Not sure we have enough.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:42 GMT
#3763
EBWOP - Last post directed at Superbia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 22 2015 04:43 GMT
#3764
On February 22 2015 13:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Am i switching to ls bh? I am your squire


You aren't thinking for yourself because....?
You're not convinced by any of the things LS has said as of late?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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