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LightningStrike

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February 13 2015 22:50 GMT

#2150

Anyone here?

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 13 2015 23:39 GMT

#2153

Maybe Obi I can see him more likely Mafia but he's always play mediocre as town when I played with him so meh. Geript is trying to change his play style as far I remember since Student V so meh.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 00:33 GMT

#2158

So you counterclaim sicklucker because you and Rayn were blues and potentially the only blues in the game?

LightningStrike

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February 14 2015 00:35 GMT

#2162

On February 14 2015 09:33 Onegu wrote:

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Yes I knew Rayn couldn't move because he was mason.

Ya he wouldn't be able to move unless he was a wandering town or another town power role or hell even as Mafia.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 01:49 GMT

#2163

Gosh so quiet. Guy who you think is the 3rd Mafia if LM is Mafia?

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 03:03 GMT

#2168

On February 14 2015 11:34 gobbledydook wrote:

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his posts don't quite feel right to me.

look at his big sicklucker meta case for example, he's used one example of sicklucker bussing to 'prove' that he's also bussing in this game and therefore LM is scum. It's sicklucker's only recorded game in TL mafia, but trying to meta not only for alignment, but also for scumplay inferences...This argument doesn't hold water.
Basically all his LM lynch arguments stem from his 'inferences' about sicklucker's scumplay, and it's interesting that the only time he mentioned LM before this, which was somewhere in early-mid day 1, he read him town.
LM has been just as lurky and useless from day 1 to day 2, so what gives?
The best explanation I can give is that LS is trying to find a mislynch after his scumpartner slipped hard and he's making up all sorts of wifom arguments to support his case.

The reason why LM would also be a reasonable lynch for me, is because I'm wrong and LS is town, then LM could be scum because of his lurkiness and uselessness.

Rolf I done meta cases before as town but never as Mafia and if you want to check my last game here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477216-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Also here my Meta Case I had made on Justanothertownie(JAT) being Mafia in Horn of Africa:

On February 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I'm back and now I bring the case on why JAT is confirmed Mafia. Now lets start with my first piece of evidence his case on HF on page 15 of his filter:

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On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.

On February 05 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if i'm honest I'm probably more sure about rs than damdy

On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

On February 05 2015 10:10 Holyflare wrote:

On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.

it is what it is, rsoul has literally posted nothing all game and it hasn't really changed i don't care what your gut tells you or not

On February 06 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:

On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:

On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me.

Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players.

I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...

I'm more inclined to vote rs tbh

But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:

On February 06 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
let's kill oneguuuuuuuuuu

if i'm wrong you can flame me for wasting your time

On February 06 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
abandon wagon ABANDON WAGON

SHEEP TO DAMDRED OR I LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

On February 06 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
god this breshke is actually 100% mafia or something

Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:

On February 06 2015 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny how rsoul just appeared at deadline to vote onegu and then completely disappeared again so probably 100% breshke/jat/rsoul

So, I point this out and this is his reaction:

On February 07 2015 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
How have I treated rs? I've thought she was mafia all game and at deadline onegu was way more convincing mafia but then he wasn't mafia so i went back to talking about rs being mafia?

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:

On February 07 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not he said my read progression is damning because I drop it when I haven't

And then the real gem comes:

On February 07 2015 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also going to preemptively defend myself from a jat onslaught by saying i wasn't invested in this game at all until deadline so my rs read isn't very concrete compared to reads i was making in real time then. Seeing as I was mostly trolling, apart from the nagging what if on damdred.

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.

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On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it

Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?

On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling

I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me.

On February 06 2015 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still 100% lynching jat though he's done a void all over again where he avoids all the wagons and reasoning while still agreeing with it. He did the exact same thing in heavyweight too.

Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.

Then his defense against me:

On February 07 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
It's absolutely not irrelevant because do you see him talking about rsoul at deadline? Absolutely not so if he is town then why does his read make sense to him when he did the same thing?

This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread.

On February 07 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:

On February 07 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't

so.

Rsoul has been in his poe list and someone he could have lynched the entire game and he barely ever commented on her

Like it doesn't matter anyway because his read is totally irrelevant if you read the deadline and if it's his only proper read this game when it should be pretty damn easy to poe the majority of mafia then he doesn't have much hope

Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him.

On February 07 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
which is a pain because my effort level is low and i know jat is just going to whine and make it difficult to lynch him

He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight.

Now if you looked in Void Mafia he was just as aggressive towards HF at Pages 1,2, and 3 of his filter on these same type of behavior towards a different player named Half the Sky before turned his attention to his scum read Marv in that game. Also note his behavior after HF backed off of JAT , JAT started to like him in Void Mafia at page 4.
From Void Mafia:

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Now if you look at his behavior regarding the votes on him or prssure on him he just attacked everyone including me and HF in this game. He did similar behavior throughout Void Mafia as scum and here is a convenient quote that JAT also in this game when someone mention him as scum in void Mafia when Koshi was town:

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and now here's some similar type of quotes from this game:

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Notice how he got angry on people wanting to lynch him throughout this game and in void he displayed the same behavior. When I played with him in Metal Mini he didn't seem to get mad as easily as this game and was activly solve the game there too.

Also I didn't really hard defend sicklucker Day 1 I just saying facts about him when he is either alignment his Day 1 is really bad from my experience playing with him for like 6 games now I think (For full games: Student IV, Carol of the Bells, Metal Mini, NYE Party, Linux a game he placed someone at Night 1: Campus).

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 03:20 GMT

#2171

Slam I made a thing why LM is likely Mafia in my filter. Take a look at it and tell me if you like it or not.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 03:55 GMT

#2173

Going to bed now. When I wake up I will check everything after this post!

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 04:50 GMT

#2186

Ya I can't fall asleep and just saw that Damdred wants to lynch me when he called me town from my very first two posts in the thread........... Damdred did you not even check my last game in Horns of Africa? I know I don't normally do meta WIFOM but I think this is the best use of it since given how my reads are I had to check sicklucker's previous game that he finished as Mafia which FF ask me to do to help me figure out who is Mafia based on associations given that I found out just in Day 1 in Void Mafia that sicklucker loves to bus his teammates esp ones that are weaker players (HTS in Void if you had my read on thing on that). The reason also asked if you had checked my last game in Horns of Africa is because I was forced to do shit there too esp my meta case on JAT in that game which I provided in my filter in this game because people didn't want to check JAT's filter in Void Mafia which I told them they should do since I wanted to be a little lazy.
Going to bed for reals this time.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:10 GMT

#2190

You lucky I still can't fall asleep I not resting easy about this and I aint a god damn Miller in fact I just a VT lynch me if you think it will solve the game.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:14 GMT

#2195

Guys Damdred isn't a cop because Millers are aware in this game and here's prooof that they are self aware:
Carefully Neutral (Miller): After the 2nd Wizarding War wound down, your family emerged as well as it could. You presented the faces you needed to to the people you needed to, and lost no-one. In these days of quietude, you still mention nothing that would give away your allegience. People regard you with suspicion, but none attack you for none know where you lie. Self-aware miller. Return Red to checks.
I'm not a Miller nor Mafia so I can't return Red to checks by the Cop plus there should be max 3 blues and we already had 2 of them claim (Onegu and Rayn as Masons).

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:18 GMT

#2198

I arguing why the red check is a lie based on my role claim Damdred god you really want this game go full Metal Mini?

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:22 GMT

#2204

I said there is a possibility of 3 power roles max in this type of setup and we got 2 claimed so there is a chance that our only power roles are just masons as I seen in Void Mafia where the only power roles for town in that game were in fact Masons.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:23 GMT

#2205

On February 14 2015 14:18 Damdred wrote:
Am I scum or town ls

Town but you were just pulling a Metal Mini on me again and I don't want to go back in memory lane in that game...............

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:24 GMT

#2207

Ofc Damdred took his Cop claim out so he admitted that he isn't the Cop and I hope if we do have a 3rd town power role they don't claim at all unless they are being lynched.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:25 GMT

#2209

On February 14 2015 14:23 Damdred wrote:
Void mafia said there were two power roles total totally different.

am I scum or town ls

On February 14 2015 14:23 LightningStrike wrote:

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Town but you were just pulling a Metal Mini on me again and I don't want to go back in memory lane in that game...............

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:28 GMT

#2211

On February 14 2015 14:26 Fecalfeast wrote:

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Oh I'd be mad OMGUS-ing, for sure. I think of LS as a harmless animal like a chinchilla or something though.

Did I tell you I was the town puppy? Ofc I am mostly harmless but look at me I'm more adorable than GlowingBear :O
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LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:33 GMT

#2213

On February 14 2015 14:31 Damdred wrote:
Idk about that the game ls references in metal mafia ls went hard at me and omgus on me when I called him scum. Here he automatically talks to me like I'm town with no suspicion

You did this type of shit on me in Metal when you were Town ofc I using meta on you for that.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 05:38 GMT

#2214

Going to try and sleep now. When I wake up I going to see what Damdred's response is to my meta point on why I not really suspecting him being Mafia.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 14 2015 14:02 GMT

#2250

I;m back and Damdred and OWS still voting me oh and did I tell you that OWS also called me town earlier without explaining his townread on me? Also Gobble decided since my train is getting traction to come back to vote me -.-

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